Here's another interview from my past that I never had a chance to publish until now. The interview was conducted at Capitol Records offices in Midtown during the sweltering June summer heat of 1996. I still have their single "Girl, Kill Your Boyfriend" sitting in one of my desk drawers. The cover art is funny. There's a giant muscle-bound lady looking ready to kill her boyfriend. So why am I putting this up now? Because I want to. The band is still around. They do have a homepage at the figgs dot net but what I wanted to show was that moment in time when I was sitting in the room with them. I want the reader to feel the urgency, like they did. To feel how it was like then to try and break through all the noise of the late 90s. It was tough -- I don't need to remind you that. Long before MySpace and YouTube, there was just the good 'ol fashioned zine, burgeoning Internet radio and FM rock radio.
********* June, 1996, Capitol Records, New York City
The Figgs
are lounging in the entertainment room of Capitol Records’ midtown Manhattan office. White walls - white screen walls that show silhouettes of publicists working next door and the central air conditioner blasting cold air through out, gives the impression that they are either sitting in a mental institute, a Japanese restaurant, or a modern art museum. In this clean and white environment, the band wakes up from their mid-day nap as I sat in the leather love seat next to them and tried to cool off from the 70 degree weather. Guitarist/vocalist Mike Gent is still lying on his back, weighted down by the artificial cold air in the room. Hailing from Saratoga Springs, New York, The Figgs release Banda Macho on Capitol Records. Capitol picked up the band after their former label Imago Records abandoned them for practically anyone to sign with. Their last project with now-defunct Imago called Low-Fi at Society Hi, gave the band enough of an impression on critics that it was hailed as a band’s answer to there’s-no-such-thing-as-alternative theory. Critics have labeled The Figgs as Elvis Costello meets The Clash. If that’s true, then why does the band seem more inclined to record in different styles and sounds rather than being stagnant with one particular sound?
“The main difference is,” says guitarist/vocalist Guy Lyons, “the songs on the last record were really old to us and when we went in to record them, we had already recorded a couple times, they’ve been on other things. Whereas for this record, we went in with a batch of songs that we hardly played out. So, I think maybe the performances are a bit more inspire-sounding. We’re a bit more excited about making this record, I think. Not to say we don’t like Low Fi...”
By this time, the band is fully awake and Gent takes a seat at the empty leather love sofa across from bassist/vocalist Pete Donnelly and drummer Pete Hayes. Donnelly continues where Lyons left off, “It’s just the material was older and it wasn’t fresh to us. And we were a little intimidated, I think. We were working with a big producer; our first record on a major has gotta be right. For this record, our relationship with the label was falling apart. We were on our own so we felt free to just do as we wish and not be worried about anything.”
“Yeah there’s a big difference. I guess Don (Gehman) is...,” says Lyons.
“...successful...,” concludes Gent. Lyons laughs and then eases up to continue, ”...yeah. I think the biggest difference is that for this record we were looking at it as if we were in a partnership with Eric, like we were producing it together. So we both had equal input.” Does this mean The Figgs had a love spat with producer Don Gehman (who also produced R.E.M.’s Life’s Rich Pageant and John Mellencamp’s Scarecrow) on the last album? “No,” says Donnelly. “Various members of the band sat behind the board more (on this) than we did during the Don sessions. Don was more in control of the sounds in the last record. Where (for) this record we told Eric...”
“He knew what he was doing at that time,” finishes Lyons.
Banda Macho is not The Yes Album or a Genesis album. It is 17 songs of fast tempo rock ‘n roll sometimes dabbled in confusion with punk. It’s Beaver Cleaver on acid. “Guy, Mike, and I wrote all the songs for this record,” says Donnelly. All the lyrics are well written and quite sardonic if not tainted with wit. “Whoever sings it wrote it,” says Gent. Donnelly then laughs, “Except for ‘Kiss of Baby’. It’s supposed to be ‘Kiss Off, Baby’. That’s our perfume scent.” The band laughs as we continue to freeze in this corporate ice box. I shouldn’t be complaining. It is after all 70 degrees in midtown Manhattan; and this interview could’ve been conducted in the worst places like on board a tour bus in the middle of a Nor’Easter. Gent suddenly shot up from the sofa and went down on all fours so to talk closer into the recorder. “We try to play different kinds of music. On the next record, it’ll probably be a tango or bossanova.”
The first time I met Mike Gent was back in February when Eve’s Plum performed at the Metro Lounge in Long Branch, New Jersey on Grammy Awards night. Instead of protesting about fucking the alternative music scene or being an usher at the awards, he was the band’s guest guitarist. It was cold that evening, so cold that we found warmth by sitting on top of each other while Amanda Kravat of Marry Me Jane took a snapshot of us. Gent is good friends with lead vocalist Colleen Fitzpatrick and guitarist Mike Kotch of Eve’s Plum and the three are currently doing a studio recording under the guise of The Dirty Mags. “It’s not really a side project,” explains Gent. “Originally it was Colleen and myself and someone else but Mike was into playing it and was a better guitarist. The Dirty Mags is a go-go band. These two (pointing at Donnelly and Hayes) were making out with models.” Donnelly grins as he looks to me in order to validate his integrity. “I worked on another record.” For every band that is friends with another band, there has to be enemies. It’s part of the food chain of the entertainment industry. “Out of a lot of people who like us there’s probably 3x’s as many people who hate us. I overheard someone say ‘Ah, I know The Figgs. You either go to see them or you’re fucking them,” says Gent.
“The N.Y. press hates us,” continues Donnelly. “I don’t really understand why ‘cause I don’t feel like we’re that forward enough even to be hated. I don’t hate something unless it’s so obviously set up or contrived. I don’t think we’re a contrived band. I guess somebody thinks we are. We’re not just thrown together to be a style. We’re a real band.” Donnelly suddenly had this look of anger that was dormant at the start of the interview. They’re intimidated by the press that seems to act fickle whenever a concert review is written about them. The group is still in search of real success. They want to see an empty spot where their c.d. is suppose to be in the bands-that-start-in-the-letter-F section. They also don’t mind hearing their tracks on the radio every so often.
“I want my career to last. I don’t need to be a huge star. If we sell tons of records, I wouldn’t be complaining. Capitol wants us to sell tons of records. But I just want a career.
"I mean, we put 17 songs on there and the label thought it was a little long but we didn’t put out a record for two years. We thought people should have just a little bit more.”
Banda Macho does not disappoint rockers who like to swing to songs like ”Blame it all Senseless,” “Girl, Kill Your Boyfriend,” and “FTMU”. It’s hard to say that The Figgs sound like Elvis Costello or The Clash or even Joe Jackson. They are not Live. The Figgs can’t be classified. “That is the most intelligent thing I’ve heard all day,” compliments Hayes about my comment on their sound.
“I don’t want to tour with super tough guy bands. I want a band that attracts girls as well as guys. I couldn’t take it if we’re playing in front of a pit full of 14 year-old boys (band laughs). It’s weird, man.
“I don’t feel macho enough to do it,” answers Lyons. “That’s why we called the album Banda Macho,” exudes Hayes.
So what is the problem with listeners today? “I think the problem is they say producers make hits and that’s what people believe. But the band makes the hits. I don’t know. If labels allow bands to be more of themselves, then the music would be more dimensional,” says Donnelly. One thing is for certain about The Figgs, they might never have an opportunity to record out of sheer freedom again like they had with this c.d. “A good example is the Beck song ‘Loser’. He did that by himself on like a four-track or something and it sounds good enough. But the thing that everybody remembered was the song,” says Lyons.
“And people pretty much identify with feel and lyrics,” concludes Donnelly. “That was one of our goals. It just didn’t sound like any other record out today.” “We just didn’t want to sound like another band from L.A.,” laughs Gent as we spent the remainder of the interview trying to figure out what songs Elvis Presley would’ve covered if he were alive today. The guys started singing Temple of the Dog’s ‘Hunger Strike’ in Presley faux pas. Scary.
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Click here to see where The Figgs will perform. They will be at CMJ this year. See their schedule for details. They will have a new studio album out on Nov 14, 2006 called Follow Jean Through the Sea.

