Them's fightin' words, mjr. Though it is nice to see someone take the opposite approach to New World on this blog (as you must know, we're all Matt Zoller Seitz-esque New World acolytes), I have to take extreme exception to even mentioning Battle in Heaven in the same breath.
Though I find Reygadas's formal mastery rather dazzling, I find his overall project very suspect. We had a few very praiseworthy pieces on the film in indieWIRE (http://www.indiewire.com/movies/2006/02/head_trip_carlo.html) a couple weeks back, so don't take my POV as representative of all RS, but Reygadas's forthrightly grotesque and childishly provocative vision of Mexico's underclass strikes me as more than a bit disingenuous. This is not to deny the sheer brilliance of the film in narrative and visual schematics. I'm not convinced that the film is as ideologically questionable as my sour stomach tells me it is, but I have remained, using your and Hoberman's words, an agnostic when it comes to this one. I think there's so much here that's good, but the stuff that's bad (the blow job in heaven wraparound, the dead-flesh hippo sex, the jacking off to the soccer game) just seems like embarrassingly juvenile provocation.
It's pretty obvious that this is a film about class in contemporary Mexico City, so what are we supposed to come away with? Certainly the concluding apocalytpic Catholic imagery is strong, but at that point, Reygadas's distancing camera techniques and audience prodding gambits have so thoroughly dehumanized its main character that he becomes nothing more than a bespectacled cipher. The sound/image work is indeed enthralling, yet unlike in Dumont, it serves to bring you farther and farther away from these alien beings, with their rotund, scrutinized bodies, as opposed to closer to an understanding.