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Charlize Theron Doesn't Understand What's Viola Davis' Problem

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by Sergio
January 25, 2012 8:09 PM
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I confess that originally I was going to call this post "Charlize Theron is a dingbat" but why make the obvious so...obvious?

Below is a brief segment of a recent roundtable discussion with a few of the most prominent actors working today: George Clooney, Tilda Swinton, Michael Fassbender, Viola Davis and Theron. Towards the beginning Davis talks about the struggles being a middle aged black actress trying to survive in the business and that even Halle Berry finds it hard as well.

This evidently stuns Theron who can't understand why Davis finds it hard, for black actress such as herself, to find work because she's as "hot as shit" 

Now remember we talking about Charlize Theron here. Someone who most likely can't pass a mirror without staring at herself for hours.

The same actress who been cast as the "hot chick" in most of the films she's been in. The same actress who had to gain weight and ugly herself up in Monster so that she could be taken seriously as an actress.

And oh yes, the same person who was once infamously photographed smoking weed through an apple bong, So maybe we should give her the benefit of the doubt and assume she was high

Then again maybe she's just a dingbat

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74 Comments

  • Jesica | October 23, 2013 11:40 PMReply

    You sound just as delusional as Charlize the reason she
    She doesn't understand why viola is going through because she doesn't have to go
    Through it !! This isn't pity shit this is racist Hollywood the only time you see a black women
    Viola colors if you are a house maid which she was playing !! When everyone really first notice her the only black women who is honored as sexy is Halle berry and she is half white when was the last time you saw a black women in lead in a block buster movie exactly not going work when you are black is real even Denzel Washington talks about how it is harder for black women if u don't look like Halle berry so cut the crap thinking that we are all equal it's bull shit Charlize is a tall blonde beautiful or course she doesn't understand Hollywood loves blondes just because we aren't in the 50s doesn't mean there still isn't racism open your eyes look at the cover of magazines all you see are white women why do you they create ethic magazines for African Americans and Hispanics because mainstream media doesn't pertain to them

  • KROSBERER | February 27, 2012 3:18 PMReply

    Yeah, As a journalist you should know better. She's by far not the ding bat here. Or the shallow one. All that she has done for her nation of South Africa. She sees the world much more different then you. Her world in blind of color. http://charlizeafricaoutreach.org/

  • ugonna | January 31, 2012 10:11 PMReply

    and while you all are here calling her a dingbat and acting like YOU'RE so much deeper, she's using her downtime to something IMPORTANT in the world, that shows DEPTH. Real depth is not just in TALKING, and bitching and moaning online. It is in ACTION. She takes the time with this cause below, can you say the same? It is a cause that helps BLACK WOMEN, and CHILDREN. What do you do to help black women and children? Call a white woman a DINGBAT. Yes, that is the way to BRING REAL CHANGE. Give me a break. But don't give me a break, give a dollar to either the cause below, or any other cause that helps black women and people. Have a nice day.

    http://charlizeafricaoutreach.org/

  • Ugonna | January 31, 2012 9:34 PMReply

    If you had paid any attention to any Charlize interviews, instead of dismissing HER based on HER appearance, you'd already know she's a very intelligent actress and woman who is anything BUT a dingbat. But hey, being a dingbat hasn't stopped you from being able to write blogs. See? Not everyone gets discriminated against.

  • Tamara | January 27, 2012 9:42 AMReply

    Hmm. George and Viola were in Solaris together...they should work together again on something else. Also, in regards to the topic at hand, I agree with what Cynthia said.

  • ojie king | January 26, 2012 11:26 PMReply

    And Charlize was just being supportive to be honest, she doesn't need all this backlash.

  • ojie king | January 26, 2012 11:24 PMReply

    Firstly, Charlize was making a valid point. Viola is a hot as shit for her age. Plus the whole " cant pass a mirror without staring at herself for hours" is a little offensive SERGIO dont you think? Shouldn't this be objective journalism not taking sides? The truth is we have heard Viola say the whole "im a black actress, i dont get work" thing over and over again and i think she should quit it to be honest because is she is hot as shit and now she is in a position to be able to make work for herself, so if she cant get work, she should make it herself, it is becoming a pity party now. I still live Viol and wish her well at the oscars.

  • Africasacountry | January 26, 2012 11:02 PMReply

    I would have been the first to jump on the fact that Theron's* is just being a white South African (remember I grew up there); but in this case she's being clueless.

  • BluTopaz | January 26, 2012 10:07 PMReply

    Race baiting for hits is very disingenuous, esp when there is a lot of real stuff going on.

  • S. B. Moseley | January 26, 2012 9:38 PMReply

    I am feeling you LEONRAYMOND. She was not wrong in what she had said (she was dead on), she just did not understand the context in which Viola Davis was speaking. Unfortunately there is a disparity in what is looked upon as beautiful and sexy. This comes from no fault of the masses, but of a simple few. As much as I love Denzel Washington and most of the films that he has displayed his talent in. I don't want Hollywood telling me that he is the sexiest black man ( I. E. Man Period) on the planet. I will decide that for myself as the voyeur. When it comes to women the standard is totally different. It depends on their age, how well their body is holding up and the color of their skin (Male or Female). This has to stop. Are they talented, do you enjoy their performances, are they appealing to you? This is all that should matter. Just like they view white males. It does not matter if a white male is old, fat, balding, if he is a great actor they will put him in a film with the hottest actress smoking and make him her love interest. When in reality, we know the deal, if that character doesn't have money (LMAO); that is not happening. I'm coming people just wait. i can can go on all day with this.

  • LeonRaymond | January 26, 2012 8:42 PMReply

    Naw, no way, it was not a put down of Viola in any way, Theron was commenting on Viola being so hot as a talent, so damn good in every role that she was saying to every one else get a grip, if you don't see it we do, Viola is hot, she put it out there, as if it was common knowledge, like no skin off our noses, Viola should all ways be here in this talented group cause that's what she said and her body lingo stated, no way is Theron a dingbat, Viola is just a true seasoned well versed, well trained-(Than Most) She could do the Bard with no problem. She is just damn good, I am more of a fan of well trained actors like herself. Her body of work speak for it self!!!!

  • S. B. Moseley | January 26, 2012 6:35 PMReply

    I feel that Charlize Theron believed that Viola Davis was saying that she was not as attractive as Halle Berry (Big Misunderstanding) when in fact what Viola was saying was that the powers that be do not look at her in that regard (Big Mistake on their part). Women in general have so many challenges in Hollywood because they are always looked at through the eyes of some shallow, white, male executive who determines what the rest of us would like to see in terms of beauty and sexual appeal, when in all actuality they don't have a clue. Then when you throw race into the mix, a woman of color has to take on all of those challenges already placed on women plus one more. Start creating folks and write the stories you would like to see. Don't let a few set the standard. The road will be difficult but in the end all truths will be told.

  • Nadine | January 26, 2012 2:55 PMReply

    ... that completely wasn't where she was coming from... not a dingbat, at least not for her comments here.

  • Traci R. | January 26, 2012 2:49 PMReply

    It ain't even all that deep. :/

  • Cinexa | January 26, 2012 2:19 PMReply

    There was a documenatry done by Henry Louis "Skip" Gates ( yeah the same one who got into it with the cop at Harvard) about race. He talked to producer Arnon Milchan, who very candidly explained the issue of race and movies and white Hollywood without any sugarcoating from a white producers viewpoint. Take a look at it some day and I think some of the people that frequent this site will start making movies and stop talking about why Hollywood does this or that. If black folks stop watching their movies and start watching ones we make...well thats another topic.

  • Margo | January 26, 2012 11:32 AMReply

    I agree with this being blown out of context. I saw this clip yesterday and I got the "don't compare yourself to others (e.g. Halle Berry) because you are great too" vibe from Charlize. I do not feel that she meant to take away from what Viola was saying. Hell, I'm black but I can totally see myself saying exactly what Charlize said to Viola. All actors, actresses and executives in this business KNOW about the plight of colored actors/actresses....some are comfortable to speak about (Fassbender and Clooney)....others aren't comfortable ( Swinton and Charlize). But don't try to act like Charlize is incapable of understanding these things because she paid Viola a compliment...jeebus

  • Ash | January 26, 2012 11:26 AMReply

    Um, am I the only one who saw the misunderstanding that occurred here? To answer the moderator's question of why she hadn't done a leading role up to this point, Viola was going to say the obvious which is that she is a black woman and there aren't many good lead roles for black women "even Halle Berry". She was implying that even Halle Berry, who is an Oscar winner and is supposed to be the most prominent and successful black actress out right now is having trouble finding good leading roles. Charlize immediately assumed that Viola meant that Halle was more beautiful than Viola and immediately started in with her "You're hot as shit" and all. That's not what Viola meant at all, she was simply saying that as a black actress in her forties, there are very few leading roles out there not that because she was not as attractive as Halle Berry she couldn't find work. Charlize missed the point and then unintentionally and subtly insulted Viola.

  • Ugonna | January 31, 2012 9:41 PM

    even if I agreed that Charlize misunderstood Viola's point(which I don't), I fail to see how she "insulted" Viola. Or how it warrants calling who was paying a friend a compliment names like "dingbat" the way the author does. Is it so difficult to just call her on why she was wrong, and why she clearly misunderstood Viola without being so mean and angry toward her? I don't get that. She said "you're hot", she didn't say anything that puts her down. heck even if she unintentionally insulted Viola, the writer is acting like she INTENTIONALLY insulted Viola. Honestly, I can see the reason for the "mad black woman" reputation with a lot of the responses I've seen this week, and I say that AS A BLACK WOMAN MYSELF. Too many of us like to jump and "smack people down" and show we have "strong attitudes" and don't chill out enough. Ever thought that could be part of the reason directors don't envision us in various kinds of roles? It is the way too many of us choose to portray ourselves as black women and we mistake it for something "cool" and "appealing". Tell her she's wrong, without acting like she ran down your damn cat!

  • Kelea | January 26, 2012 10:35 PM

    No you are not, I saw that too. Goodness, people are taking up for Charlize without seeing the significance of what she was implying. Maybe because they feel the same way about Viola as Theron seemingly does. I don't think Viola has low self-esteem or even really cares about that aspect of it.

  • DADIWRECKTOR | January 26, 2012 9:43 AMReply

    Her comment here was in gest. She is not a "ding bat" and sadly, hot chicks do have brains.
    In regard to the bong...so? A little college humor. You missed a great moment to actually have something intelligent to say here-
    1. George Clooney was insight
    2. The idea that a 46 year old woman cannot find roles
    Here are a few article ideas: Best roles for Mature Black Woman, Ageism and the Black Actress but this is not a "hate Charlize blog". This is not a "beat women down" blog. Let's keep the standard up. I depend on you. I respect you. More of your good stuff. Thanks!

  • Evas | January 26, 2012 8:48 AMReply

    I am sorry but I have to go with S&A here. Charlize is a dingbat. She didn't even let Viola finish her thought before jumping in. It is obvious that Viola was going to a place that Charlize simply wasn't comfortable with so she did that white-guilty thing by over-complimenting. It read as awkward and trying to hard. At least Michael Fassbender asked a question instead of making a dopey declarative comment. His question, though, just highlighted how out of touch some of these young stars are with the reality of their own business. And I do have to co-sign with what another poster pointed out -- Charlize got real snotty about Halle taking on the Catwoman role post her Oscar win. It was a nasty comment and again showcased how little she understands the realities of race in Hollywood even for black women who are 'hot as shit.'

    I do think George and Viola both came off as incredibly smart and incisive. However, I have to ding on George a bit. I continue to dislike the conflation of the problems of 'women in Hollywood' with the issues of 'black women in Hollywood'. They are not the same thing, not the same thing at all. Not even in the same stratosphere. There needs to be conversation and dialogue about the specific issues that black actresses face without constantly hijacking the issue for white actresses.

  • Ugonna | January 31, 2012 9:43 PM

    when did Charlize EVER talk about Halle or any actress in a bad way? Way to make crap up! George himself completely changed the subject and also didn't get Viola's point about dark vs. light, but you say he is "smart and incisive" because what? Because you like him? Who is the ding....?

  • Kelea | January 26, 2012 10:30 PM

    @EVAS This comment is perfect.

  • SZP | January 26, 2012 8:08 AMReply

    Oh was that weed? I thought it was crack. The perils of ignorance.

  • Anu | January 26, 2012 1:07 AMReply

    Ahhh, come on now! You're being hard on Charlize. She's not a dingbat at all. She's just white and obviously, the kind of white person who who has chosen not to broaden her perspective of the world, the world outside of being white and privileged.

  • Orville | January 26, 2012 12:25 AMReply

    I remember a couple of years ago Charlize Theron criticized Halle Berry I think for taking the role in Catwoman and Halle was not impressed. Charlize claimed she was going to send Halle flowers yet Halle said she still had not received them. Charlize is obviously someone with white privilege she does not think about race because she does not have to. I mean sometimes white folks are oblivious to RACE because it does not affect their lives so they lack that awareness.

  • ugonna | January 31, 2012 9:44 PM

    not sending someone flowers they promised...has something to do with race???

  • Logic | January 26, 2012 12:16 AMReply

    I see you trollin', Sergio.

  • Robin | January 26, 2012 12:12 AMReply

    Charlize responded to the shallow because, well, she is shallow. Otherwise, I didn't hear anything offensive. She was just out of her element. Viola and George wrapped rings around her intellectually. They are smart. She is not smart. Also, she came from modeling they came from theater. The part worth noting is how George Clooney gets "it." He is the one who took a chance on Bernie Mack and changed the man's career. He gets "it."

  • ugonna | January 31, 2012 9:47 PM

    Charlize is one of the smarter actresses out there, sorry. It actually takes some intelligence to act with the depth she does, and if you watched any interview of hers BEFORE this, she stuns you with her intelligence. You accuse Charlize of being ignorant and making snap judgements without knowing what she's talking about, but what do you think YOU did? You saw a pretty, white, blonde former model and you already summarized everything about her with NO observations prior. Nice talking to you.

  • Akimbo | January 25, 2012 11:30 PMReply

    This story is so sensationalized. Please stop taking Charlize's words out of context. As another commentor has mentioned she was doing the girlfriend thing and responding to Viola's comment that she was not as hot as Halle Berry. She was not at all commenting on the plight of the black actress. I can't believe this story still has legs.

  • ugonna | January 31, 2012 9:50 PM

    @akimbo

    YOU are missing the point. All this time you are wasting on Charlize and complaining about a moment she DARED not understand Viola's Holy Point, you could all be spending spreading the word that Viola was trying to spread( and did). Viola DID finish her point after Charlize spoke, yet you all want to hold on to that one, petty "negative" moment, because it is much more fun to bitch and moan. If Viola didn't finish after that, that is on Viola. Viola got to speak and clarify with Charlize, and it was over. Period.

  • Akimbo | January 26, 2012 11:24 AM

    ...I didn't miss Viola's point; I know the game all too well. Yes, Charlize missed it, but soso much is being extrapolated from her trying to play the "reassuring girlfriend." It's just not newsworthy. Now the woman is under attack for being a horrible, idiotic, blind, and overly privileged white woman? Over "I think you're hot as shit?" C'mon. This is stupid. Charlize is not the problem; the people with actual power are. How's that for missing the point?

  • Karyn | January 26, 2012 4:59 AM

    I agree that Charlize was trying to be supportive, but I believe she, like you, totally missed what Viola was trying to say and really put her foot in her mouth. Viola never said she wasn't hot, she said, the politics of Hollywood mean others do not see her as hot, leading lady material. There's a difference. The larger narrative and the more important point, is that a bunch of money men are making decisions about what gets made in Hollywood based on outdated notions of what people want to see.

  • get these nets | January 25, 2012 10:58 PMReply

    I understand Viola being candid but that's the profession that she chose. You audition for the film,tv, and theatre roles that are available or you CREATE your own projects.

    Nobody cares that there aren't (m)any roles for you, nor should they.

    If you're sitting next to a man from Laos and he's complaining about the limited roles for Laotian men in Hollywood, by a show of hands..tell me how many what give a heck.
    Now why should CT care or understand Viola's concerns?

  • Cynthia | January 25, 2012 10:45 PMReply

    It seems like Charlize was dealing with what SHE could relate to and that's the "beauty" and "ageism" issue of Hollywood. I don't think she was addressing the race aspect like some may suspect. It's a great conversation nonetheless. Loved Clooney's remark about the people who make the decisions "aim at the lowest common denominator"...Of course, we all know that to be true.

  • Tski Loverton | January 25, 2012 10:23 PMReply

    well, she is from South Africa...

  • Terri | January 25, 2012 9:49 PMReply

    Viola Davis and George Clooney are hot as sh*t!

  • HarveyDent | January 25, 2012 9:29 PMReply

    Putting aside what's being discussed but damn if these guys aren't foul-mouthed. Haha

  • Stacey Muhammad | January 25, 2012 9:03 PMReply

    Headlines. Interesting....I've seen this video clip referenced in quite a few posts. Tonight I took the time to actually watch it. Charlize Theron "not getting it" detracts from the importance of this discussion, which went on for quite some time after her absurd interruption. Viola Davis responded graciously without compromising her point and George Clooney spoke very honestly about the realities of film and television execs, the dumbing down of the American people and the lack of diversity in this industry. Good clip.

  • ugonna | January 31, 2012 9:51 PM

    exactly. The conversation continued. No tragedy here!

  • bashe | January 26, 2012 11:00 AM

    This. Well put, Stacey---

  • MM | January 25, 2012 9:01 PMReply

    She is SOUTH AFRICAN!!!! What do you expect??????????!!!!!!!!!! She wasn't going to keep her mouth shut. Instead, she must reflect white "liberal" attitudes of the post-apartheid Rainbow Nation. It's a constantly annoying aspect of white South Africans.

  • s | January 25, 2012 10:26 PM

    I'm from SA and I couldn't agree more!

  • Darla & Mark | January 25, 2012 8:58 PMReply

    "Shit white girls say"

  • Darkan | January 25, 2012 8:58 PMReply

    Charlize Theron was giving a compliment to Viola and not making a a statement on blacks in Hollywood. The media needs to stop stirring things up. SMH.

  • jmac | January 25, 2012 9:19 PM

    That was the problem. Instead of addressing the topic, CT gives Viola Davis a silly compliment as if Viola was saying she's limited in her roles because she's not "hot" enough. CT didn't get it but everyone else did. She probably pretended to "get it" later.

  • Sergio is a Dimb Ass | January 25, 2012 8:57 PMReply

    Go watch Pariah. Dumb ass fag.

  • Jeff O. | January 25, 2012 8:44 PMReply

    Charlize was just giving the normal reaction that some "non-racist" white people have when racism is brought up. I get the same reaction when I tell people LAPD pulled me over for no reason. "What! But you're a good guy." ... Whatevs it's no big deal imo

  • Jen | January 25, 2012 8:44 PMReply

    I watched the entire interview yesterday. It was fascinating to contrast all 5 actresses. You had Michelle Williams and Carey Mulligan, both young and still defining themselves as actresses and explaining as much. Octavia Butler, who has found herself launched about 4 stories into a rarified atmosphere of award winning actors, who is guarded in her remarks, still getting used to her new position. Glenn Close as the grand dame, confident in herself and her craft. Viola, fearless in her comments as any actress I've known, confident also, but still struggling with Hollywoods inequalities. And then Charlize. Girlfriend was dropping f-bombs and other assorted cusswords, and most annoyingly, making these not-so-deep observations on acting, sounding as if she learned them at the feet of Lee Strasberg. She embodied the cliche of a self-absorbed Hollywood actress and her well meaning yet clueless remark to Viola was the least of her problems.

  • ugonna | January 31, 2012 9:55 PM

    so, anything intelligent has to be something dismissed as "not so deep" and "just learned from Strasberg" because Charlize the model is saying them? You know, Charlize may not be black, and I do believe that is where your anger at her comes from, but she DOES know a thing or two about discrimination. Your post shows a great example of what pretty girls get all the time. They get dismissed all the time, and that is why it took her years to get recognized for her talent.

  • ska7triumph | January 26, 2012 6:51 PM

    That's the THR inteview not the Newsweek/Daily Beast one that this thread is referencing but, nonetheless, great insight. It's not like these women haven't seen each other time and time again through the past year.

  • Xi | January 26, 2012 12:05 PM

    Where can I find THAT interview?!

  • Brekaing News! | January 25, 2012 8:42 PMReply

    Another retarded and misguided post from Sergio, and with poor spelling to boot!

  • Black Harvey Dent | January 25, 2012 9:36 PM

    Be quiet, white boy.

  • Man-Over-Bored | January 25, 2012 8:41 PMReply

    All I can say is, I don't know about you all, but I just fell in love with Viola even more!

  • Sergio be sucking penis. | January 25, 2012 8:41 PMReply

    Ya'll know.

  • Sergio Sucks | January 25, 2012 8:40 PMReply

    Fuck Sergio!

  • ForeignBlackChick | January 25, 2012 8:37 PMReply

    Aside from the spelling mistakes in this, showing a quick upload which was not gone through...

    This post is about what?

    Sergio please just keep posting about how much you hate Oprah/otherbw and leave the black woman patronization to the experts(black women themselves).

    BTW many black actresses have to ugly up to be taken seriously as actresses too. According to our dubious roles sometimes- this happens more for us. So Charlize looking like a 'monster' is nothing new or special.

    And I can totally see Viola staring at her pretty Brown face in the mirror. Vanity does not discriminate. Go 'head girl ;)

  • Said in LA | January 25, 2012 8:34 PMReply

    I think its just as ignorant to call Charlize a dingbat or something negative along those lines. I was at the recording and I asked Charlize after the taping what she felt about Viola's words. She said, "I'll say it again, Violas hot shit, Hollywood's blind to not recognize a talent like her." Her exact words. Charlize meant no disrespect.

  • ugonna | January 31, 2012 9:57 PM

    I think you need to write that about 50 more times, cause a lot of people have come since then who don't know that and are running their MOUTHS.

  • I'm Sergio, so I'm gay and black as crispy toast. | January 25, 2012 8:34 PMReply

    Ya'll know.

  • Mark | January 25, 2012 8:53 PM

    Why would you post something like this? What's the purpose of other than being a hateful jerk?

  • Donise Stevens | January 25, 2012 8:32 PMReply

    @Shadow: You, sir or madam are a provocateur.

  • T | January 25, 2012 8:31 PMReply

    I don't see anything wrong with what she said. I believe you're thinking way too much into her words. Sometimes we film people do that. It's okay.

  • Neziah | January 25, 2012 8:31 PMReply

    Honestly, I see nothing wrong with that.

  • Tami | January 25, 2012 8:30 PMReply

    Shes South African...she knows the deal.
    She's just being a girl.

  • Drew | January 25, 2012 8:28 PMReply

    Oh, give Charlize a break. I'm black and love her. She didn't mean anything disrespectful. She was actually trying to compliment Viola. Talking about the fact that blacks don't get the same acting opportunities is not an easy topic. It's just a fact.

  • Arthur | January 25, 2012 8:27 PMReply

    Uh, clearly she was doing the girly thing and dismissing Viola's suggestion that she wasn't good looking enough to find work. She didn't even comment on the issue of Black actresses. Aside from Fassbender's question, no one else did. Clooney then shifted the focus to make it more "universal" in discussing the plight of all women in Hollywood, because clearly no one there understands what it's like for Black actresses.

  • Akimbo | January 25, 2012 11:33 PM

    THIS, a thousand times this. Love Viola, no strong feelings on Charlize, and the warping of this "story" is ridiculous.

  • Nicole | January 25, 2012 8:27 PMReply

    LOLOL! OMG! I read this article and I really think Charlize meant to encourage Viola. I don't think she meant any harm. She just doesn't get it. She immediately zoomed in on the "physical" aspect of what Viola was saying instead of listening and TRYING to empathize.

    But you know, thinking is not Charlize's claim to fame. She did the best she could. SMH

  • ugonna | January 31, 2012 9:58 PM

    you would think she called Viola the "n" word with the reactions on here!

  • Zach | January 25, 2012 8:21 PMReply

    Theron is simply affirming Viola's attractiveness in a light-hearted manner not belittling her struggle. If anything, the stupidity of this post does more to cast a bad light on Viola by in anyway implying that she would agree with this.

  • Laura | January 25, 2012 8:21 PMReply

    Whatzup with that Sergio? Why are you disparaging our "African" sistah Charlize? She like, so like, gets it, like, dude.

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