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2013 S&A Highlights: Dwayne Johnson - 'Race Shifter' In A Post Racial World?

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by Sergio
January 3, 2014 12:01 PM
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Editor's note: As 2013 ends, and 2014 begins, I'll be reposting some of our highlights published during the last year. Those who've already read each one can obviously skip them, or revisit if you'd like. For those who joined us later in the year, missing many of these posts from earlier in the year, they will probably be new items. Here's the 14th of many to come, originally posted in late March 2013. Happy New Year to you all! 

We all know that there’s been a lot of talk about how we are all now living in a “post-racial” society. Though I think, most of us will respond to that with a “Yeah right.”

But things are changing, albeit slowly, but they are changing. And it dawned on me last night, during  an advance screening of G.I. Joe: Retaliation, that the one person who could be an example of this post racial utopia we're supposed to be living in, is Dwayne Johnson.

It should be very obvious by now the Johnson has been positioning himself to be a major A–list movie star. He easily could have just gone on to be a B-movie actor, content with doing supporting roles in action/exploitation films, and starring in direct-to-video movies, like some of his former WWE cohorts. But Johnson has much higher aspirations.

And it’s not just the film projects that he’s attached himself to, but also, either by design or by happenstance, how he's been perceived racially by the public. He has become a “race shifter” for lack of a better word.

Through his obviously ethnic, but not clearly defined looks (he’s black Canadian/Samoan), he has managed to become “identified” as it were, by different audiences, as different things, and has used that to his advantage.

I should say that, of course, we identify him as black on S & A, or else we wouldn’t always be reporting news about his various film projects. And Johnson has neither ever obscured, or refused to acknowledge his bi-racial heritage, unlike Vin Diesel, who has gone out of his way to not publicly acknowledge his mixed heritage, preferring to instead let people think he’s, perhaps, Italian.

For example, in Johnson’s recent film Snitch, he was clearly identified as “white” helping to save his white son in trouble with the law. However in G.I. Joe, he’s clearly identified as being “black”. His character in the film has two young black daughters who he dearly loves.

Yet, interestingly, the mother is never seen in the film, and there’s no explanation or even a reference about her. Is he a widower, or did she happen to be in the kitchen in those scenes when he’s with his girls? And perhaps one can argue that she’s purposely not seen in the film to keep Johnson from appearing “too black”.

However, later in the film, Johnson, on the run from enemies out to kill him, goes back to his old black urban ghetto neighborhood, where his old homies still live, as a hiding place. So he is definitely clearly identified or “coded “ as a black man in G.I. Joe.

Yet the fact that Johnson can smoothly switch from “white” to “black” to even “other,” without any comment or seemingly any notice from audiences, is intriguing.

Possibly a major factor for that is simply because Johnson has an incredibly charismatic and likable persona. Like any genuine movie star, he pulls you into the screen, not pushes you away. As the old saying goes, when Johnson is on the screen, Johnson is on the screen. 

He has slightly comic self-awareness of his whole physicality and effectively uses it to even mock and send up the whole macho man image, which makes him instantly likable. It’s almost as if he’s saying: “Look ,I don’t take myself seriously, so why should you?”

And that fact may have crossed over to the audiences' perceptions of his own racial identity. Johnson can be whatever he wants to be because he’s somehow bigger than life, a  fantasy creation as it were, and, therefore, transcends any labels that can be put on him. 

He’s human Teflon.

But is this racial shifting a good thing? Is it a genuine sign of progress, or is it just an easy way to avoid dealing with the serious issues of racism and intolerance that still linger? 

It could be easy for people to easy: “Look at Dwayne Johnson. He doesn’t make race an issue, so why do you people still have to?”

What do you say?

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  • Tai | July 24, 2014 5:08 PMReply

    Yes, dwayne us playing it safe by not fully establishing himself in a fully developed black character roll. Nor does he play lead male opposite any black female leads....AT ALL....with the slight cameo appearance in Tyler Perry's "Why did I get married, too" as a possible love interest for Janet Jackson's character. ...But it's Tyler Perry and Janet Jackson, who'd say no to that resume boost. I won't downplay his efforts or deligents on creation a name for himself in Hollywood or cleverly marketing his ethic diversity....but just how propelled would his career be if, in fact, he did go for roles or use his now famous star, to portray a black family man with a female costar and mostly ethnic cast?

  • Tess | June 6, 2014 7:46 PMReply

    Samoans always find humour in everything, over analysing something (which you western people do) is missing the point. Ask any Samoan if they have mocked relatives 99.9% of them will say they have been. We even like to mock ourselves not to mask issues that people dissect and turn into something that its not but we do it because we love to laugh. The issue of racism in any Pacific Islander doesn't come the the people themselves it comes from white man over thinking complex issues I mean really? Your remaining lingering questions about racism made me LOL as they say Samoa " Chillax Man be cool " LOL

  • Bucky O'hare | May 10, 2014 5:00 PMReply

    no, he's not a "race shifter", he's "ethnically ambiguous". and considering that largest portion of the media pie, film & television especially, is dominated in front of and behind the camera by people of European descent, that's even better for him, considering his heritage.

    think about it: if you're writing or producing a television show, for instance, and you're ethnicity is [fill in the blank], who are the major players on that show gonna look like?

  • woodoow | May 10, 2014 3:41 AMReply

    Many people who claim the one-drop rule are wearing rose-colored glasses. Most of them do not look white (see a photo of Princess Diana if you need a clue about what traditional white people look like). As for the Hispanic populations that refuse to acknowledge their African ancestry--especially Dominicans--took a look in the mirror; the same for Puerto Ricans, Cubans, Brazilians and every other Hispanic country in the western hemisphere. That's not to say there are not isolated pockets of indigenous people that did not mix with Africans or mixed Africans--I'm not talking about them. And for those who have lived in fairytale communities of mixed people that are blind to their African ancestry either intentionally or because of the brainwashing done to them by their parents and their culture, look around you and you'll realize you are not the definition of white nor would you be accepted as white by true white people--they will still see you as something other than white even if they are your best friends. Just like that woman on the jury of the George Zimmerman-Trayvon Martin trial who was listed as Hispanic. Phenotypically she is clearly of African descent regardless of her Hispanic cultural upbringing and some amount of mixture--hair, facial features, etc., present a woman of African descent first and foremost. So yes, you may have been raised in a Hispanic culture and have some other racial mixing in conjunction with your African ancestry, but most are clearly visibly phenotypically African regardless of how fair their skin may be. In fact, a number of the fairer skinned mixtures look more African in their facial features and their hair texture than their darker skinned relatives. And yes, Derek Jeter's African ancestry is clearly present just looking at his face. You can claim all the mixture you want, but don't forget to include your African ancestry.

  • Evie Hanlon | April 17, 2014 3:37 AMReply

    Well there you go, I always had him pegged as a Kiwi Maori... :)
    I'm a white woman, I'd go see him anywhere, and I think if you canvassed white women in Aus, you'd find a surprising amount would go see him in a romantic anything. He's just got the personality for it... As we speak, I've just had three friends post pics of him as he's looking at buying property on the Gold Coast on FB. They'd all go see him anywhere, they're all white women. :)
    I'd like to see more mixed race everything at the movies, because from where I sit, that's where we're at...

  • mimi | February 9, 2014 11:50 AMReply

    It does not matter if you are black mixed with black we all have red blood regardless what our skin color are.no one want to be black because to claim black means you will be treated differently look at the people from India a lot of them are darker than some blacks but do not call them black.I think being black is great even if you go through hell being black. I thought samoans were mixed with black also what other race of people have kinky hair except africans people need to get over it if you have black decendants be proud and stop lying.

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  • countrygrl | February 5, 2014 12:23 AMReply

    First let's start with Vin Diesel. I knew what he was. I know a lot of black guys that look like him. I never thought he was nothing other than black. He will never grow his hair out because it is very kinky. Italian? Really? Italian is considered white; this is just another way of not admitting you have black in you. Now Dewayne Johnson. Yeah, he is considered ambiguous until he commits a crime to someone white. Then he will be a negro like the rest of us. I have heard him speak on his father and mother. Both parents have the same pheno type if you ask me; color, hair texture and so on. But, the key is the hair; he is not going to let his grow out either, no longer than what it is now. If he did he would definitely look more black.

  • Cat | July 14, 2014 7:22 AM

    And lastly as someone stated below. If the rock would grow his hair out, he would look Samoan Native (which he considers himself)... he has straight hair. And in case you didnt know Sicilian is considered Italian as well and they come in all shades varying from very light to super dark! You cant say All Italians are white.

  • cat | July 14, 2014 7:15 AM

    And your name says it all... Your race(s) dont determine your hair type, the genetic makeup and genes you pull from each parent does, its the same with skin color and eye color. My problem with black people, particularly Black Americans is if you have a drop of black blood, or even is mixed with 50% black you're suppose to accept you're black and forget the rest. Thats bullshit. The Rock and Vin Diesel are both MIXED or MULTIRACIAL they do NOT have to claim only one side of them. And come on, yes they have ethnic features but you can look at Both of them and tell they have something other than black in them. My niece is as white as snow with green hazel-ish eyes and her hair is super kinky. However, my nephew he's almost the same complexion as Mr. Johnson with silky hair with a slight wave to it... Obviously She got the white side in the skin and eyes he got it in the hair, so you cant say the hair determines what you are and fyi many white people and asians have kinky, curly, or even woolly hair.

  • manu samoa | July 6, 2014 6:35 PM

    if he grew his hair out he would look more Samoan, as he did when he first began wrestling

  • yo | April 2, 2014 3:10 AM

    I am black multi racial have son with straight hair and my hair is not kinky. Every one assumes all African descent people have kinky hair.

  • Chacha | February 2, 2014 3:57 PMReply

    Folks, one of the many things Mr. Johnson and his " Team Bring It" has is "Star" power! When you can Executive Produce, Produce, Manage a movie or television show, you can pretty much dictate who you would like to cast in certain roles. It's all about the MONEY! If you pretty much have the Director in you pocket or payroll, then you can have placements of products, people's pictures-may it be your real family, ect., on the set. Remember ,Mr. Johnson's "Handlers" are pretty much dictating what and how they want him to be perceived. His former wife, still his manager and probably head of the whole "Team" is white skinned Cuban therefore, I believe his wives are cast in images of herself. I can't count, and don't really want to, how many pretty Spanish appearing wives and children were cast to be with him. (Kristin Davis, what- really?!)You won't see a beautiful Black woman as his wife. If anything, you may see an unattractive Black woman so they can say, " we gave you One-why are you still complaining?" I have always sensed a certain attitude in their selections-he goes along with it-Pg. 72 "The Rock Says..." personally, I like to look at him;] I prefer his action films-Remember, he has "Star Power 1.3 billion worth!" Our beloved Megarexic Action Hero can call the shots and so can his Management, Executive production Team. Nepotism is alive and well with "Team Bring It!" :/

  • Chacha | April 23, 2014 9:37 PM

    NO we don't!! Stop giving your child a complex already, that's the problem!

  • Alias | January 3, 2014 7:14 PMReply

    Johnson is an anomaly who is able to succeed because he's got great charisma and an everyman factor that draws audiences in. Much like Denzel, men want to be him and women want to be with him. He's quickly replaced Will Smith as the black action star able to transcend global audiences and bring in the green to Hollywood. But I would advise against viewing him as a "race shifter," and looking to him (or the business model of his career) as some indicator that white audiences and executives are, somehow, ready to embrace a less myoptic view of race.

    I agree it's interesting how audiences seem to view him and how he's been cast in movies with racial identities of being a black man and a white man, and, seemingly, audiences simply accept his roles as such. But, again, I think that has more to do with the stories themselves. Again, action-themed vehicles, with a few comedies sprinkled in, in which there's not a lot of self-reflection of a situation, like a relationship, say, between a man and a woman.

    I think the real test of his brand, if you will, would be to have him in a romantic comedy or drama -- something that he's really not been cast in yet -- in which their is tension in a relationship with a woman. I know I've read that Johnson would like to play a romantic lead.

    However, I have to believe that studio executives are smart enough to know that they have to
    tread carefully in casting if they were to embark on such a project with him. Johnson could garner a HUGE female audience if he were cast in a romantic comedy, but only if he were cast with the "right" actress (i.e. Sanaa Lathan, Anika Noni Rose, ...even, perhaps, Maya Rudolph). NOT a WHITE actress. I believe he has a tremendous black fanbase of women, even if they don't flock to his action movies, but they like "The Rock." ... And as an aside to a black fanbase of women would be other women of color who, likely, find him incredibly appealing as well. ... With all the choices that white women have, yearly, to choose from, in terms of romantic comedies, I'm not so sure their demo is an automatic buy-in to go see him in a movie. Period.

    On the flip side of the coin, depending on how one chooses to measure success, the Racial Ambiguity coin isn't, necessarily, working for the few actors who don't fit into a neat box. ... I think Maya Rudolph has enjoyed a healthy career in Hollywood and, like Johnson, hasn't really been pegged to a box. Rudolph is clearly comfortable with her blackness and knows who she is. She has created many funny characters - black and white -- that were comedic genius to watch when she was on SNL. She's been cast in movies as the love interest/wife of black men and white men. And I think it's fair to say that, at her level, both black and white audiences enjoy her work and support her. (Her backstory alone makes her endearing to many blacks).

    I suppose the real test -- consider it her next level of stardom -- will be when her new variety show airs on NBC, to see how audiences take to her being out front, for the first time, alone. I certainly believe she will fair much better than Rashida Jones. As an aside, did anyone else see Rashida honoring Carol Burnett on the Mark Twain Awards on PBS and say to themselves, huh? ...Since when is Rashida a comedic actress and why is Carol B. hanging out with her? That through me for a loop ('cause I LOVE Carol Burnett).

    But, I digress. And now I'm stepping down.

  • Claudia | January 3, 2014 3:10 PMReply

    If you want properly analyse how Dwayne Johnson is racially portrayed you should look at all his pictures, and not just a couple, and you will find a lot more interesting facts. Having a white son or black kids, doesn't make his character white or black, on the contrary, it highlights his bi-racial identity. If he is playing a black+white mixed race character, regardless being black/ Samoan in reality, that means he might have both dark as fair skinned children. It is undoubtedly, progress, since there is no "races" (just the human kind), and we have been mixing since the beginning. But if we don't want to look at our past, we can observe that there is more and more mixed race couples and children, seldom portrayed on movies.

  • dnwilliams | January 3, 2014 2:51 PMReply

    Food for thought, but I don't understand this passage:

    "Johnson has neither ever obscured, or refused to acknowledge his bi-racial heritage, unlike Vin Diesel, who has gone out of his way to not publicly acknowledge his mixed heritage, preferring to instead let people think he’s, perhaps, Italian."

    Vin Diesel broke out with Multi-Facial - a short he wrote, directed, produced and starred in - which dealt directly with his relationship to his multiracial heritage and identity and put him on Steven Spielberg's radar. I think it's insanely unfair to say that someone who made their way into the film industry with that project (which everyone should watch, it's on YouTube) "goes out of their way" to not publicly ignore their heritage is extremely unfair.

  • T.J. | November 8, 2013 5:34 PMReply

    Wtf Derik. how did you find this. Quit stalking me ya damn creeper

  • T.J. | November 8, 2013 5:49 PM

    Derik I never said I put him in the hospital you silly moron.

  • Derik Holani | November 8, 2013 5:42 PM

    It's called a coincidence fagsauce. And quit acting like you put that guy in the hospital all you did was knock him out.

  • T.J. | November 8, 2013 4:27 PMReply

    I am 50% Tongan(which is similar to Samoan ,basically Polynesian) and 50% White and a lot of people mistake me for other races. My black friend said at first he thought I was an Italian who liked to go tanning a lot. Some racist dude thought I was Mexican and called my a beaner and I beat the turd out of him since one of my friends is Mexican. Some of my white friends say I look like a true Tongan and wouldn't mistake me for anything else. I've done my share of race shifting.

  • T.J. | November 8, 2013 4:09 PMReply

    I am 50% Tongan(which is similar to Samoan ,basically Polynesian) and 50% White and a lot of people mistake me for other races. My black friend said at first he thought I was an Italian who liked to go tanning a lot. Some racist dude thought I was Mexican and called my a beaner and I beat the shit out of him since one of my friends is Mexican. Some of my white friends say I look like a true Tongan and wouldn't mistake me for anything else. I've done my share of race shifting.

  • Derik Holani | November 8, 2013 5:04 PM

    MALIE TA'E!!! HAHA! Tuku ho fie me'a. LOL T.J. I'm telling everyone about this post ha! and uh why did you post the same post twice dumbass. It's not like anyone is gonna give damn.

  • Miss Ess | October 24, 2013 12:20 PMReply

    Good article! Cracked up when I read "was she in the kitchen....?" Another commenter said it is progress, and avoidance of the issues. I agree it is progress, but for whom? When the "girl who might be in kitchen" is allowed to come out and be an integral part of the story---in ALL of her varieties, and just not the ambiguous and naturally curly-haired kin-folk, then I might agree we can say progress for all. It's good for Dwayne, and Vin Diesel and others that have never been cast in leading roles, but what does it really mean? It's like "passing" back in the day, except that everybody knows. If the girl in the kitchen gets to come out, it was through the door to the reality show studio---but hey it's gotten pretty ambiguous there too hasn't it?

  • Kojak's Wig | October 20, 2013 5:11 AMReply

    Sergio, once again you have said it plain and simple. Much love for D"The Rock"J, but it is both progress AND avoidance of the issues. Either way, I'll happily support Rock's movies first weekend, while Vin's flicks I'll wait to catch on bootleg for free from my Uncle Frank's 125 St collection.

  • Hayley | October 20, 2013 3:18 AMReply

    Great more Ni##ers to pollute television.

  • Trish | October 29, 2013 11:54 PM

    Hayley, take your "polluted" comment elsewhere.

  • eh | October 16, 2013 6:25 PMReply

    LOL, and I thought we had discourse in good old South Africa. Wake up USA we are all human. Live, love and get over your hang ups. Keep well.

  • frank conner | October 13, 2013 12:41 AMReply

    every race is special and should be preserved... thing is, this media is Anti-white and every race is allowed to speak up for their interests except white people. Think about that for a second. You have BET, Telemundo, Shalom TV, but there are no "white" chanels that talk about white interets or culture. There are no political interests groups like NAACP for blacks, La Raza for mexicans, Jew World Congress for Jews but if whites have a group its "racist".... enough of this hypocrisy... white people need to wake up savewhitepeople. com

  • eric perry | October 15, 2013 2:46 PM

    frank, people of color have those tv stations, because it was the only way to see programing that interest "us". By being born white you dont see it that way. to you shows like "cheers" and "friends" are not white shows but just real life? Well to us its not. i dont have a troup of white friends who sit at a bar all day after work. I also dont identify with "Friends" for me and people lie us our world as it pertains to us is quite different. You may not like BET (hell I dont either) or telemoundo, but guess what its programing for Americans who does and yearns for some sort of representation. you dont have a all white tv sation? try fox, abc, nbc, cbs, hbo, cinamax, starz, spike tv and countless others. the point is what you see as people of color...americans who have their own TV station, we see it as all we have is one or TV stations that acts as if we exist.
    And please if it wasnt for the enslavement and mistreatment of our people including jews then we wouldn't need the NAACP. the NAACP exist because we had no rights. The rights you are born with and at no point in mans history were denied to you. that is the why those organizations exist.

  • Ms. Dai | October 11, 2013 12:26 PMReply

    We're all different! Racial division has nothing to do with acknowledging the racial differences; ignorance and bigotry are the culprits!

  • Leslie Trefethen | October 10, 2013 3:46 PMReply

    Since we're trying so hard to get past being racially divided, then it doesn't really matter what race Dwayne is, does it? Maybe if we would stop pointing out these differences every chance we get, then we might finally move on to what's important. Getting along.

  • Nicole | October 6, 2013 5:28 PMReply

    (((WHY ask why?)))
    Hello...
    I'm Nicole...
    I'm Black
    I'm not ashamed to say so
    I refer to myself as AFRICAN-American...
    ...which acknowledges MY PAST and celebrates my PRESENT...
    (((my choice. Deal with it)))
    ...but make no mistake, there is only ONE race that cultivates my FUTURE
    "the HUMAN race!"

  • Connor | October 1, 2013 10:31 PMReply

    I can race-shift from White to Hispanic like George Zimmerman and fool the world!

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  • Eeekkkkk | September 30, 2013 3:28 AMReply

    But is this racial shifting a good thing? Is it a genuine sign of progress, or is it just an easy way to avoid dealing with the serious issues of racism and intolerance that still linger?
    It's AWESOME in every way, trust me ;-) every time it's completely ignored as a plot point.
    If we like the story and believe the character, we the audience will take your ride and come back for more. Reading down through these comments is an eye opening experience.
    There is nothing more beautiful and strong in this world than the mutt and no ride more fascinating than the study of the just how it got to be that mutt, but as long as people equate race with culture--well. Like any other prejudice, it's a choice. And for those of you out there
    who don't think one drop of another race makes you that race at all, let me tell you a story. A very expensive little story.
    I went through severe trauma in late teens to twenties; severe acne was one result, head trauma another, and both left deep scarring. Raised, pocks, ropy, you name it, it's a continuous process to remove it 20 years later. The first two surgeries I had to remove scarring had results that disappeared within six months. The next surgeon asked if they had taken my race into account.
    I was floored. I am extremely fair skinned, straight brown/black hair, eye color is green hazel with brown. Skin only oily in t-zone. He explained the reason he asked was because the scarring was raised and so far outside the wound perimeter, and while people with mixed ancestry may not appear dark skinned, their still D.N.A. instructs the immune system to over-produce collagen at the wound site. African and Asiatic skin cells behave differently, and wound healing/scarring poses different issues for non-Caucasoid and mixed race patients.
    This doctor's surgeries have been far more successful, and now the skin on my jaws is scar free. What a beautiful start. What a wonderful
    thing has happened because a doctor recognized race as an important factor--recognizing a
    difference let me open my mouth all the way. Someday I'd like to do genetic testing, but that's an expense that will follow these surgeries, and of interest, but it's not my highest priority. And maybe, just maybe Dwayne Johnson is a similar reflection--his race is certainly important.
    But when we watch him, it's not our--or his--highest priority.

  • GollDee | September 28, 2013 12:00 PMReply

    I don't understand first of all, why Black people think they're African? Africans are from Africa. Black people are a mixed race people us usually of African, Native American & European as in the case of Creole, Latino & or Hispanic people, so if the one drop negro blood rule applied to Creole & Hispanic people they'd all be Blacks. Lets make that very clear. If your family some how stood the test of x from the slavery days till now without mixing in with Europeans & or Native Americans then which is highly doubted, then you are a African American, if your family is presently from Africa & you are now a US citizen you're a African American, but if not you're Black which is indeed a mixed race. For the the record, most so-called Blacks are already mulattos as are Hispanics, so if your Black & or Hispanic (same thing, different heritage & or culture, Hispanic or Latino is not a race) & you have a kid with a white person as in the case of Derek Jeters parents it really doesn't make sense to call him mulatto, because his Black (mixed race) is already mixed.

  • ARIA | September 29, 2013 9:43 PM

    African American. The word African is before American. Duh. Yes, and Europeans are from Europe. Usually, European Americans refer to themselves as Caucasian or White American. Just like African Americans usually refer to themselves as Black American. Africans are from Africa and African Americans are from America with African blood/lineage and heritage inextricably linked to Africa. Black people are just as mixed as Whites and Natives--they are all mixed with each other due to the history of the United States. Creoles and Hispanics are just as mixed with White, Native and African as Whites and Blacks in America are. Hundreds of years before slavery and the social construction of "race" by poet William Dunbar: Africans, Asians, Natives and Europeans traded, shared cultures and had "mixed" offspring. African tribes before enslavement in the United States also "mixed" with different tribes. Africans have the oldest gene pool, the oldest alleles, with the GREATEST VARIATION, thus AFFECTING physiognomy--making people of African descent have the MOST DIVERSE physical attributes--before "mixing" with other "races" and stepping foot on soil in the United States. Mulattos are only people with one so called "white" and one "black" parent. After this, their children are no longer mulatto and are categorized as something else. Usually Africans confuse this terminology moreso than Black Americans, and refer to African Americans as "mulatto". The etymology of the word "mulatto" is offensive, coming from the Spanish/Portuguese word "mulato", derived from "mula" (archaic Portuguese, Latin "mūlus"), meaning "mule", the hybrid of a horse and a donkey. LOL. Now why on earth would you refer to a human being as a "mule"? ... But now, anyway, we don't hear our West African Fulani people going around calling themselves "mulatto" in the equivalent of their language Pulaar/Fulani simply because they are mixed with "Berber" (another derogatory word meaning "barbarian" in Latin/Greek, as "Berbers" refer to themselves as "Amazigh", or "free people") or "Arab" and some silly people consider Afro-Semitics like Israelis or Arab to be "white" when in actuality they are "light" skinned Blacks descended from Black Africans, Black East Africans or Black North Africans. You don't see other East Africans or Ethiopians going around calling themselves "mulatto" if they happen to be "mixed" with Italian or any other European ethnicity/tribe. Only colonized African Americans, Creoles, Africans, Caribbeans, and other South Americans of Black descent go around referring to themselves or their people as "mulatto", "trigenyo", "coolie", "bi-racial", "mixed" and other silly nick-names to differentiate, separate and divide--derogatory terms coined by the European colonizers. THE CLASSIC DIVIDE AND CONQUER SYNDROME.

  • Richard Buckner | September 27, 2013 9:54 AMReply

    I don't know blacks that hate being black, and I know and am friends with many. I say be proud of who you are regardless of race, I am attracted to women of different races strongly, why? Just am. Wish Asian women would stop doing so much facial plastic surgery, you're beautiful stop it! And goes to say not all people of all races are attractive, just sad that most of these people develop a bad attitude like "Don't F with me" about everything. And there are people so perfect that think, "Why are you even talking to me" type personality. The ones in the middle most of the time have by-far the best personalities overall. Black women, I have seen some damn good looking black women as well white women.

  • Mike | September 25, 2013 7:51 AMReply

    Wow...

    I never knew until now that Black people hated being Black so much. So many of these posts are full of vitriol for being "forced" to claim themselves as Black... Do they even know what Black is? Do they have an understanding of the African Diaspora? One commentor mentioned how Jews have embraced and overcome some of their shame issues, yet in the same breath seems to suggest that "mixed race" Blacks are somehow an entirely different racial makeup... "huh?" Ok. Maybe it's cause I'm not Black... but.. why do so many of the "Blacks" posting replies here seem to hate themselves so much? You got African blood.... That makes you Black... get over it.. or freakin redefine Black so it's palatable to you...but denying it is just.. well.. Dumb.

    I'll acknowledge my Irish heritage... yes there's shame there... but I'm Irish. I deal with it cause there's a a lot of good too. Gotta ask.. what's wrong here?

  • ARIA | September 29, 2013 9:51 PM

    I debate these brainwashed Blacks all the time when they insist on claiming "mixed" ancestry. So what?! Everyone is "mixed", and self-hate has to stop somewhere. When people claim they are "forced" to claim they're Black, usually they're afraid of being ostracized socially or punished for claiming they are Black and feel shame. If you don't want to associate with your own Blackness or accept it, then stop arguing about it! People constantly try to redefine Blackness and disassociate Blackness with Africa, which is silly and impossible.

  • Betsy | September 21, 2013 11:15 PMReply

    1. Many posts here refer to the "one drop rule" as if it were some scientifically-based formula for determining race. Please know that it was actually made up in the antebellum South when
    nervous lawmakers saw fit to pass new laws further dehumanizing Blacks and needed to make sure that everyone knew to whom they applied. 2. People are what they are racially, although e ethnic/cultural identity may be more subjective and relative. I one taught a light-skinned Black student who stated that his mother told him that his family had always been light, but is 100% Black. He grew quite angry at the suggestion that most African Americans are mixed with White, and that accounts for those whose eyes/skin/hair might be lighter. In a later discussion, other students claimed to be "100% Puerto Rican." When I gave them a brief history lesson on why some of them had many of the same characteristics as or appeared as Black as their African American peers they referred to with the "n-word," that most are descended also from Spaniards who brought slaves from Africa plus the indigenous native population that interbred/died out, most became livid. As Hispanics, they "knew" that the Spanish were not slavers, they themselves were certainly were not Black, and, bottom line, they were the original people of PR, just as they are. I was told by administration that this was not an appropriate topic for school. What? IMO, lack of education feeds the type of ignorance that results in needless social discord.

  • Kiros | October 2, 2013 2:06 PM

    You forgot to mention that the indigenous were slaves themselves. I am from Egypt/Ethiopia and in school in the west it teaches us Africans are in the desert, they were always slaves, and all this other bullshit, but never teaches true history. The natives in the Americas were the first slaves, then when they died out and proved unfit for harsh labor, that is when the African came onto the scene.

    Many Latinos of indigenous descent praise there Southern European conquerors without paying attention to their own history. Its like a North African Sudanese man praising the Arabs from stealing his land and culture from him which is moronic.

  • ARIA | September 29, 2013 9:58 PM

    Actually, all Blacks, all Africans have the oldest alleles, the oldest gene pools--that are the most dominant and the strongest. So of course nervous lawBREAKERS tried to dehumanize Blacks in every way they could. So, it's not just "one drop" of Black/African blood. It's SEQUENCES and sequences of LONG DNA in the human gene pool THAT IS NEVER escapable EVER, no matter how hard fools try to escape this reality. Africans have the most diverse gene pool, oldest alleles, most dominant genes, so regardless of whether Black Americans are "mixed" with another so called "race", it really doesn't matter because before "mixing" occurred in the United States, the Western Hemisphere or anywhere outside of Africa, Africans for tens and thousands of years already had the most diverse allele gene pool which results in the greatest variation of physical features. But brainwashed people continue to fight against the truth.

  • alissa richardson | September 15, 2013 9:11 AMReply

    Ok..so what about Derek Jeter? He's half Black and half White, but his features came out Caucasian. I would classify him as "Mixed". That is even a category that is on applications now. Sigh....I wonder why we still have to discuss this anyway? Take a look at a picture of planet Earth, look around the whole universe, then we will all see how insignificant we All are. We're here temporarily then thats it. There are so many other things to worry about than color and DNA. I'm trying to figure out what the remark someone posted about "Whites are becoming the minority in the US" (myth) and to "Take advantage"...hmmm....that sounds hostile. Put anyone on the operating table and see whats inside and we are all the same.

  • ARIA | September 29, 2013 10:00 PM

    So what?...About Derick Jeter: his parents are also "mixed", like the rest of human beings are. Whites are mixed with Native and African in America, anyway, so who cares.

  • dennie boykavich | August 31, 2013 12:59 AMReply

    The pro-wrestler was born to a Samoan
    Mother and an African Canadian father....so clearly is black coz his dad was black get ur facts ryt....:-)

  • Sammanthat | July 16, 2014 11:39 PM

    well... if you want the right (spell it right, not ryt =b) facts, he's half black Canadian and half Samoan. So yeah. He's both, what do ya know? =} I'm just yanking on your chain... he's light-skinned either way

  • Haywood Jablome | August 28, 2013 10:03 AMReply

    If you have "one drop" of urine in your coffee, do you still drink it or pour it down the sink?

  • mytwocents | August 9, 2013 5:00 PMReply

    O.K. Tommy Sotomayer makes it clear why mixed raced people should NOT identify as Black because it HURTS the Black community....
    Youtube vid: "Why Mixed People Should not be called Black"

  • thomas finn | August 6, 2013 11:55 AMReply

    so Imean if an africa american goes around beating up people we the general public should shrug our shoulders and o well thats just how there kind behaves and go on our way... with out giving a second thought so the question is ... is the law the law or is person have their own set of rules & regulations even though the constitution says all men are created equall.!

  • Thomas | August 2, 2013 4:50 AMReply

    Same old dumbass conversation. As a mixed race creole myself with an Asian eyed Cherokee grandmother I still get dumbass racial questions from other ( yes I said other) blacks. Yes I am black AND more. The rudeness I sometimes get from AA dark skinned women sometimes saddens me. As if I did something wrong by being me. of course growing up with sisters who looked like me and cousins who were light and some white and some euro Latin at times makes it easier to relate to mixed race lighter folks of AA decent. Duh! That's normal and if you can't accept that then that's YOU'RE being a moron. Shared experiences right? Same as shared experiences I have with my black brethren growing up together as young men in hoods and playing ball. Brothers for life. My (insert that word)s!! But I am still mixed still black and still have a German grandmother on one side and a couple of native ones on the other. And all light skinned family including both mixed race parents who both are whiter that me. Yet I need to explain my blackness to anyone? Like prove it by dating black? And then getting ranted on if my views don't conform to the majority. Bullshit! Be what you want and whites or blacks that don't like it eff em!

  • Ayumi | October 2, 2013 2:46 PM

    I doubt you are that racially mixed lets be real African-Americans as a whole are jacked up. I ran into Lighter toned/mixed people of African descent and they are just as lost. They hold a typical notion that they are superior to other Afro-Americans. I am Somalian dark and have keener features than the average mixed Afro-American do I think I am superior to you know.

    I know for a fact that you think you are, do you even have interest in your African blood? Do you want to know where your African side comes from? Africans have rich cultures why not try to understand your own continent. Forget a Euro Latin calling a side of your heritage black is ignorant. In Africa there is various shades and features, perhaps if you read a book and learned the ancestry of your people than things would be much clearer.

  • Haywood Jablome | August 28, 2013 10:02 AM

    Sure ... Everyone suddenly is 1/8 Cherokee Indian with a native American grandmother. Nobody believes that for a minute, pal.

  • James | August 27, 2013 11:14 AM

    I'm sure you do get a lot of ranting on your views if they are as all one-sided as this one is.

    Also, the idea of "Be what you want, and eff those that don't like it" is great given that one has the "choice" to be perceived differently. Some of us don't have any say in that equation whatsoever. But hey, it's just the "same old dumbass conversation" anyway, right?

  • Really! | August 3, 2013 10:04 PM

    Clearly you want to be something other than black I have
    friends that are very light straight hair green - blue - gray
    eyes White fathers and half white mothers they could pass for
    white for them being black is a honor and they claim it and I
    understand being black and owning it is for the strong not the
    weak so good luck with that especially if you think you have a choice

  • Christina | July 31, 2013 2:10 AMReply

    I writing in response to those who have anger towards unambiguous black people. The issue isn't cut and dry and goes beyond your feelings and how you want to see yourself. For those of your who are multiracial and don't understand let me try to clear it up. The are some facts you can't deny that play in to how and why "real" black people react to you. 1. In most parts of the world people have negative feelings or views of black people. Black is not a race that if given a choice most nonblack people would choose. Be real about this. You have people in Sudan and Kenya who have one drop of Arab blood and a curl to their hair but look unambiguously Black and call themselves Arab and hate blacks. 2. Yes the one drop rule is out dated, but for people born in Civil Rights era that was their reality. And it wasn't that long ago. So light skinned and/or mix raced blacks shared the black experience. There wasn't a choice. You lived with other black people, when to church with other black people, school, college, used the bathroom with other black people etc. So for a dark-skinned person to assume a light skinned person didn't share a common experience would be absurd. Everyone was in the same boat. The one drop rule created a shared experience that is not easily shaken off by a 3 or so decades. So for some blacks especially older ones, to perceive a mixed race person as denying or belittling their black side is insulting. Especially since most black people on some level know we are considered the mules of the earth.
    3. People go by what you look like. Mixed race people need to get that in their heads and stop being insulted when some one sees you as black. Why are you insulted in the first place? I don't think half if you all would be insulted if people were always calling your white. I know of mixed race people who look more black or as black as other black people who have two black parents. So that is where the confusion comes in sometimes. The white blood from slavery hasn't been erased from everyone's features that has 2 black parents. I know people who have no immediate white ancestors but look mixed race. i.e. Vanessa Williams, Tom Joyner, Henry Gates Jr, and any other light skinned famous person. So in theory you really can't limit mixed race to immediate nonwhite ancestors. It boils down to what you look like. THat is how people perceive you. If you looking like Beyonce and telling people you aren't not Black, yes the average black person will give you look. Get you heads out of the clouds. And when black people call a mixed race person out for having African ancestry they are not ignoring your other side. They are just letting you know you have something in common. 4. The reason you may be feeling love from white people is that they aren't as interested or as perceptive in noticing racial clues in people's features as black people. Tell them you have black in your dna and see if the love will be still there. Why do you think on those family tree shows some people don't disclose their total racial make up. There is a price to pay in this country and in others when you are perceived white later to be found tainted with chocolate.
    5. The poster who said mixed race experiences aren't the same is right. It does depend on where you were born and raised.

  • Daniel | July 18, 2013 1:00 PMReply

    http://static2.stuff.co.nz/1332110869/822/6533822.jpg

    dont see a black in this picture, not even close
    i see an asian...
    could be thai or phillipino

  • Daniel | July 18, 2013 12:53 PMReply

    How in the blue hell is johnson black? i know he has a "black" father but not even his dad looks like a "real full black" and his mother is asian (samoan, pacific islander) the rock doesnt even look black, he looks samoan! just that beard makes him look "black" but when u watch other pictures of him. u can almost guess that he has asian decent. i mean look at his eyes. or his grandfather. or yokuzuna (who played a japanese character, but was samoan) back in wwf days.

  • Kiros | October 2, 2013 2:54 PM

    He does look of African ancestry I see his father in him. His mother looks like she has negrito blood in her which would explain her physical characteristics. I know you cannot tell because you are probably White you people think Arabs are white.

  • Christina | July 31, 2013 3:11 AM

    Do you know a lot of black people to be an authority on who looks black? There is a lot of diversity in how black people look belive it or not. Here is a photo of his dad with him. https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/p480x480/542314_10151066748094384_1518289317_n.jpg

    He looks more than a little black to me. If a female in your family brought him home to meet the family he'd be more than barely black. What he has to look like Don Cheadle to be black to you? And if he did look like Don would that be a problem for you? Thanks to miscegenation and forced miscegenation (during and after slavery) black people range the rainbow. You didn't learn that in American History in school? I'm sure this would apply to Black people in Canada. Some of whom are descended from slaves who ran from America to freedom in Canada.

    Also, not everyone with black blood looks black. Genes are funny that way. You can have siblings in a mixed race family that all look different. That is how a good number of black people passed into white society. Do these people all look black to you? http://madamenoire.com/76249/you-family-celebs-who-we-didnt-know-were-black/

    Also see the movie "SKIN" which is based on the true story of Sandra Laing. Google it. Two visibly white South Africans have a Black child(or what you would say a barely black child) and two other children who look like ethnic whites.

  • Christina | July 31, 2013 3:06 AM

    I just read between the lines. When does how much a person is black matter? Especially when the person says, looks, and their birth certificate says it. (in response to comment about the Rock's dad) Is it because Black = Negative for most people subconsciously? That a person who is seen as desirable, talented, and useful and black would need to be divorced from their blackness to be totally palatable to white america? Which is why you say barely black?

    Lastly, a lot of Samoans, Polynesians, Melanesians look like mixed race black people (asian and black). Google some pictures. Shoot look as some of the football players. Also google the original people of the Phillipines. They were called Negritos by the Spanish for a reason. Also google the andaman islands and look for pictures of the people. There is a black presence in Asia and an ancient one at that.

  • Monique English | July 5, 2013 8:53 AMReply

    Its pretty sad that even today we are still going through this racial identity here in America. I am an African American woman with a multicultural background. My mother is bi cultural and so is my dad. However my dad was darker skinned and my mother is slightly lighter. My maternal grandmother was native american and hindi indian and her husband was black. My grandparents. However I look black but my hair was always an issue. I have what they called mixed race hair. My daughter on the other hand inherited her great grandmothers hair and she is often mistaken for Puerto Rican or Hindi Indian with black ancestry. Both her dad and I are multi cultural black people but only identify as black because thats what you see. However my daughter's great great great grandmother was from dublin ireland on her father's side. Her sister is puerto rican and black with fair skin and kinkier hair and when they are together peolpe actually think my daughter is puerto rican.It just irritates me with all of this racial feautures .. I always related to bicultural people more so than black people because I always get that where you get that hair fom you ust be mixed with something. Its painful and disgusting. I'm clearly a black woman but my hair was always and issue with other black women. Now my daughter is going through the same bull crap. Enough is enough already!

  • Juan | October 2, 2013 2:59 PM

    I am Puerto Rican and we are not a race!! A puerto Rican is nothing but a African and a Spaniard nothing more. Many of us believe we have indigenous roots but the truth is it is actually less if non-existent because of the extermination of them by southern euros. If a Afro-American man mates with a Puerto Rican woman there children will look mostly African because we have the genes.

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  • Shelvie brown | June 23, 2013 6:14 PMReply

    I wonder why Dwayne the rock Johnson never plays a black man roll in movies or ever have black love interests? Is he ashamed or denying his ethnicity?or is it strictley

    business?

  • cristalexi | March 19, 2014 2:49 AM

    He becomes whatever the behind the scenes mostly white hollywood want him to be. He would no longer be caste in these roles if he started insisting on having a black roles or black love interests - he has no power in this. Go ask the question to the white powers that be.

  • Jihad | June 24, 2013 12:52 PM

    He made a cameo appearance towards the end of Tyler Perry's "Why Did I Get Married Too?", as a future love interest for Janet Jackson's character.

  • CuteBlackwoman | June 14, 2013 7:13 PMReply

    Love the skin you were born in, love you. Because if you don't love you. How can you expect some one else to? And to those who feeling more supreme, lucifer fell hard and so will you.. it is written for and to all of those with that supreme Lucifer mentality. Ijs.
    Good for Dwayne Johnson God blessed him to be able to play what ever race, and took him from being poor to rich.

  • Cuteblackwoman | June 14, 2013 6:52 PMReply

    Imo sense the fall of man in the garden of Eden, mankind has put way to much emphysis on their outter appearance just like Adam and Eve when they sinned and knew they was naked. African Americans/Black Americans race still need to be healed and delivered from the slave mentality and so do other races. Because not only black people were slaves, but those who enslaved us were to. The white man was a slave to sin and the devil to be used by him to cause so much pain and suffering. And just like Lucifer who thought he could be a more supreme god, the whites and those of lighter skin thought they were better, while the blacks just like Adam and Eve became self contous of the color of their skin because of the lies Satan was telling through his slaves (white people). God asked Adam and Eve who told you, you naked? Black people who told you, your inferior, not beautiful ? Answer: the devil. Think... if the white man hated and really thought black people were ugly, then why did they rape them ? Lawd if you black. Or have darker skin and feel. Inferior to those of lighter skin, your a modern day slave and are programmed by the lies of the devil! And to those of you who think your more any thing because of the lighter skin you may have your a slave to, living a lie. Who told you, you were better? There's only one race in the eyes of God, the human race. And God seperate the human race by their sin, are they forgiven or not. The whole human race need to repent and ask God for forgiveness and be healed and delivered! Because our number one problem in our world today is sin, and not hearing and knowing the voice of God. So folks is listening to every other voice but the right voice, the voice of our creator.

  • Rick | July 21, 2013 12:49 AM

    The devil? God? Adam & Eve? this is a big leap from an article on the The Rock. Have you ever thought that some of these religions that sprang up out of the middle eastern desert might be the ultimate form of slavery?

  • Lavon | June 22, 2013 5:23 PM

    That was well said cute black woman.. We live in a sinful world and everything about is a lie. The devil has used and lied to us for to long. Praise God for you speaking the truth.

  • Mixed Girl Who is "REALLY MIXED" and not "JUST BLACK" | June 13, 2013 11:53 PMReply

    @PasseBlanc ....It breaks my heart to know that's how they feel about us. What are we to do about that? We can't change the way we look anymore than they can change the way they look. This is why there needs to be more black pride....If they aren't comparing themselves to whites, they will be secure in feeling superior in their own right. There is beauty in all races. Whites are slowly becoming the minority in this country....Now is the time for non-whites to take advantage of this time...It's only the beginning. Maybe the next generation will realize their new found power....at least I hope so.

  • Mixed Girl Who is "REALLY MIXED" and not "JUST BLACK" | June 13, 2013 8:34 PMReply

    @Lynnie WTF!!??? ....You are actually going to sit there and lie to everyone by saying that ALL African Americans are mixed??!!! You all lie about that crap so much, you even believe it yourselves!!! ...I'm so tired of hearing that hogwash....There may be some truth to a MAJORITY of AAs being mixed--and that would be MULTI-GENERATIONALLY....going back several generations to slavery days! ...Don't begin to insult people's intelligence and true mixed race people and try to diminish our true mixed race heritage by saying such absurd crap! I've heard this said so many times--clearly by self-hating blacks who don't seem to be proud of their own African heritage and want to feel exotic or special in some way!!! You're black....African American...not mixed!!!! DO YOU HAVE PARENTS OR FIRST GRANDPARENTS OF DIFFERENT RACES???? (I emphasize 1st grandparents because I don't want to hear--"Well my great great great great great great grandmother was Cherokee Indian", or some crap like that!) ...If not, then your just plain black....accept that!! ....Be proud of that and be happy!!! Why is that so wrong???!!! You all need to check yourselves!! ...So I guess this is the new plan??? If you can't make us black like you, you figure you'll join us by saying that you're mixed like us???!!!! C'mon!!! There was a time that we were treated like shit!!! ....Us mixed folks were some shameful dirty secret that people wanted to hide--or just call "Black". ...Now we are getting some respect and recognition and you can't deal with that or something???

    ...And as for Beyonce...If you don't believe she's Creole, than explain why she looks the way she does---Of course she wears wigs, hear pieces, etc.!!! ...Her and just about every other female performer in the entertainment business---WHITE or BLACK!!!! ...What does that prove???? ...Did you forget about her own mother????!!!! ...Yeah....Beyonce's mother looks like every other black woman in America!!! lol :) ...You believe that crap, I got some swamp land to sell you in Louisiana!!!

    Self-hating black folks get on my nerves. Why can't you all just be proud of who you are????!!!! I'm more proud than you and I'm only PARTLY Black!!! I'm proud to be mixed!!! I'm glad that I'm allowed to be today...FINALLY!!! I don't have to be ashamed anymore!

    Sad...Sad...Sad... Why is it only black folks that do this??? ...Even the Jews went through their shameful stage in history, but now....look at them! There seems to be more successful Jews than any other group of people in this country!!! ....Somebody figured it out there!!!

  • PasseBlanc | June 14, 2013 5:26 PM

    Everything you say is correct. I am "passeblanc" which a French word for "pass white". NO. I do not pass for white but it simply means a Creole who physically looks white. Now for Creoles who did actually pass for white and hide their Black roots they were called "Passe pour Blanc" which means Passed for White. --- just a little Creole history.

    Beyonce is a Creole. Creole Folks have been in LA for close to 200 years and have a rich history that includes spending generations of mixing with everyone who moved into LA. Creoles have a long history of being ridiculed by the mainstream African American community because of our French influence and different looks. Most African Americans are not French influenced and do not speak Creole language.
    Creole have been out casted by both Whites and Blacks which was the reason we actually were forced to have our own communities. Now because more Creoles are in the entertainment business the African American community wants to claim us and denounces our rich culture.
    The "one drop of black blood rule" is NOT universal. It does not exist in the continent of Africa. In fact, in many African nations if you are half White than you are considered to definitely be something else. The Africans I meet point out SEVERAL Black entertainers that would not be considered Black in their countries.

    I have also met many mixed people that look very white and call themselves black. Many of which are in my own family. This is because they say there is more to how a person identifies themselves than just the color of one's skin. There is the community, family, school, neighborhood, friends, churches that influence how they identify themselves as Black. I respect that point of view because it is true and makes sense. It is their choice just as it is others choice and right to not call themselves Black.

  • PasseBlanc | June 13, 2013 7:51 PMReply

    African Americans never try to claim Black Latinos by using the "one drop rule". This is because the United States Census has LEGALLY created a separate racial box for Black Latinos. They can tell African Americans that they don't have the right to try to claim them with the "one drop rule" because the law says they are a different ethnic/racial group.

    The reason there is still soooo much controversy over Biracial/Mixed raced people of African American descent is because there has yet to be an actual racial box to be created by The United States Census. Once the racial box called "Mulatto" (or some other term) is created then Black people with have no more use for arguing about this subject. The LAW would have classified "Mulattos" as a separate racial group. "Mulattos" could tell Blacks that they do not have the right to claim them according to the law.

  • Cristalexi | March 19, 2014 4:39 AM

    @MIXED GIRL WHO IS "REALLY MIXED" AND NOT "JUST BLACK" | JUNE 13, 2013 10:58 PM - I too am mixed of Scottish\Kenyon but everyone says I look Asian which I have no problem with. However, I have not had any of these experiences from black people of which you speak. Sure, I've come across black people who are a bit wary when I first meet them but after awhile are perfectly fine with me as I treat them with the utmost respect as I do with all people: and I believe this wariness is due to the negative attitudes from the people they encounter in day-to-day life. Maybe this self-hatred you speak of is projection of the hatred for black people. Maybe people need to look inside themselves and determine how they are interacting with black people.

  • Loe | June 19, 2013 5:02 PM

    @ PasseBlanc, thanks for posting. What you wrote is insightful and interesting. I also appreciate how sincere your writing is.

    @ Mixed Girl Who is "REALLY MIXED" and not "JUST BLACK", your passion really comes through. I used to feel the intensity of what you write, but I'm letting up some of the frustration as times goes on. I am bi-racial and so is a friend of mine, who happens to be 1/2 Swiss, and 1/2 Botswanian. She is only an African Citizen, but again, she is bi-racial. Just imagine the frustration that came about when she came across Black Americans who tried to categorize her. They kept saying that she's "African American," yet she's never been a U.S. citizen. And the bi-racial thing was just a whole additional level of complication.

    I am adamant about acknowledging being bi-racial. Not because my parents come from drastically different cultures, and I'm proud of each. Moreso, because it's simply what I am, and it's a valid mix. I also firmly believe that many of the stereotypes about Black culture (e.g., food, language, mindsets, etc) are very Southern, but it's impossible to legitimize that ALL Black people in the United States are one culture; what they really share is the same race; from Baldwin Hills, to the Bronx, to New Orleans, Black people have different cultures. And within that classification of race, there are people who are genetically a majority Sub-Saharan African, a minority Sub-Saharan African, or an amount of Sub-Saharan African that's in between.

    Being Black and being White are important, in that it means there are a lot of givens about life and how physical traits affected life experiences and other things. This affects who your parents are and in turn affects you. For example, my dad is White and says a lot of awkward/politically incorrect things, is boisterous and enthusiastic like a big child, loves to give unsolicited monologues on history, and can't dance. And, I grew up in a small, predominantly white town. So, if I'm only Black, then that takes away from my father's influence in my life (for good or ill), as well as how the town that I grew up in affected me. Not to mention, gives some insight into why it took years of hard work before I gained the coordination to dance. And genetically, I'm not 1 race. Calling me Black wrongly teaches people that I am a representation of 100% Sub-Saharan African DNA. When in reality, people have just gotten so complacent in labeling biracial people as Black, that they (biracial people) are now the new norm in what the spectrum of being Black looks like. People keep thinking that Black people create White babies, but they are always overlooking that the so-called Black parent is really biracial.

    Skin color isn't one of those things where darker hues will always dominate. A biology professor of mine said that it was more complicated than that. And I always have looked at biracial people of all hues and I can easily see that they are a mix in between both parents. Look at Barack. His father was a dark Kenyan, and his mother was a pale White-American. Obama is in the middle of the blend of their 2 skin tones. He didn't come out looking more Black.

    I think too, what if I have kids with a biracial man. If we stay in the U.S., then our family will default to just Black, losing all those experiences that both of us had being the products of interracial couples; society will lump us into a category, a monorace and monoculture that is not representative of our upbringings and selves. And, whit if my future intended is both biracial and British? Then it would definitely be even more unfair, expecting him to speak with a Southern-influenced accent and eating fried chicken and greens. Otherwise, he's weird or corny for not being a stereotype?

    The latino people are the products of racial mixture; they represent this blend of European (mainly Spanish and then Portugese) mixed with Indio, Black African, and even additional European; and yes, all latinos have these mixtures of varying percentages. But the point is that they are a fairly new (in terms of human history) group of people created from racial mixture. Why cannot there be such a new group emerging for people who are biracial or mixed? The term African American is getting outdated because it's inaccurate. The Creoles have their group. So let's keep going with acknowledging racially mixed people, who are part Black, in the United States.

  • Mixed Girl Who is "REALLY MIXED" and not "JUST BLACK" | June 13, 2013 10:58 PM

    I believe there was once a time in history when there was a separate racial category called "mulatto". I think it was back in the 1800s or early 1900s, but I guess that didn't matter anymore when the Jim Crow laws kicked in.

    For me, I consider myself fortunate, since I am classified as Hispanic (Latino), because me and my family are from a Latin country, I'm not forced to subscribe to that "one drop rule" nonsense....but I assure you that doesn't stop a self-hating black to try to get me to agree with them on calling myself black and only black and try to guilt-trip me into it, despite my obvious ambiguity....I don't ever deny my racial mix, which includes African ancestry, but I won't make that exclusive to who I am, just as any other racial mix within me, because truth be told, I'm more white than any other part of my DNA, but I certainly don't call myself that either!

    I always hear about the resentment over this 'Hispanic/Latino' labeling regarding others from Latin countries with any African ancestry such as Puerto Rico and the Dominican Republic. I believe it stems from the poison seed that was planted in so many brains, going back so many generations in this country.

    Yes, this country's ugly history with slavery, segregation, Jim Crow, civil rights, etc. is indeed factual, but there has to come a point and a time when you stop living in the past and start living in the present and focusing on the future. I think that there are too many blacks (as well as racist whites) in this country who are stuck in the past because of other racist whites in history. The good news is the numbers are shrinking.

    It just frustrates me to see blacks continue to allow whites to have power over them by subscribing to things like "the one drop rule". Remember, we now have a "black" president (even though he's mixed--but he calls himself black, so we have to respect that--and I understand that because he looks more black, he feels he has to claim that---which always puzzles me about some 'white-looking' mixies who still call themselves black--but again, if that's what they feel, we have to respect that also). There can't be no more excuses about "The Man" keeping you down anymore....I guess when you've been a victim for so long, the mentality takes a long time to go away, so much so, it extends into generations all the way to the present. That cycle needs to end. I just wish they would realize that.

    Whatever happened to the 'black power' movement that was once active in the late 60s, early 70s, is that right??? ...That needs to come back again. If that was more wide spread, there wouldn't be self-hating black folks trying to recruit people with any amount of African ancestry from other cultures. Everyone should have the right to be and feel pride over their own heritage and culture....regardless of what your culture or heritage is, or what country you come from.

    As long as people aren't insulting others for who they are or where they come from, people need to feel free and allowed to claim their own heritage with pride and not get shot down with words of venom from others who are seemingly resentful in some way.

  • Vincent | June 12, 2013 6:32 PMReply

    I say what is wrong with Vin Diesel being Italian, he is half Italian and you make it sound like it's something wrong! I also knew he was half African American because I read it on the web so it's not like he's ashamed or trying to keep that a secret. And to be totally honest with you I didn't know he was half Italian either until I read the same article, so it's not like he parades around saying he's Italian. Yes, I am Italian American, and my name is Vin, but I have had African American friends with the same name so it's not like "Vin" Diesel is a dead give away that he is half Italian. I may have just misunderstood the way you expressed yourself, but I don't think Vin Diesel has gone out of his way to NOT recognize his mixed heritage. Like I said, it's there on the web for anyone to read, and until I did just that I didn't know he was half "paisano" either!!

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  • sergio | June 3, 2013 9:21 AMReply

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  • Danny | June 1, 2013 11:21 PMReply

    I think black Americans on this site are really racist they want mixed race people to choose the black category when many of them DON'T WANT TO. Black people need to realize the one drop rule days are OVER! Biracial and mixed race people have a right to self identity they SEE THEMSELVES. Vin Diesel doesn't call himself black because he doesn't see himself as a black man he is a mixed race man who looks almost white. The Rock isn't even African American so I don't know why people use that racist language. The Rock is a BLACK CANADIAN his father Rocky is from Nova Scotia Canada which has a rich black Canadian heritage and his mother is Samoan. There is nothing white in The Rock's racial lineage.

    Why would someone like Wentworth Miller or Vin Diesel call themselves just black that's stupid, those guys clearly look more white than black. Wentworth Miller both his parents are mixed and the man looks almost white so of course when he gets cast in films he's most likely is going be cast as white because that's how he looks. Biracial actors and I'm also including Beyonce they use their mixed heritage to their advantage. Blacks get all upset when Beyonce proclaims she isn't just black and she's correct she's part French and Native American. Beyonce with her light skin, and blonde hair is not just an African American.

    Now, with Tiger Woods the black American community turned their backs on him because he refused to deny his Asian heritage since his mother is from Thailand.

  • cristalexi | March 19, 2014 4:59 AM

    As others have said the one drop rule was a creation of whites. Why do people not see the true direction these things are coming from. You mixed race people seem to have joined the white ranks and are costantly blaming black people for all the ills in society. Notice how whites are silence on this board but normally the same things you are attacking blacks for I see whites doing all over the internet. You're here doing it so there's no need for them to do it.

  • Mike | October 2, 2013 3:13 PM

    What you said was a load of rubbish. African-Americans did not make the one drop rule Euros did. Canada is in North America so technically he is American. Vin his mother is African-American not mixed so he is not mostly white, Beyonce is wearing blond weaves not her hair texture and her father is a dark skin African-American who is darker than me which means in actuality she is more Afro-American than anything.

    Tiger Woods was kicked to the curb by the mainstream media not African-Americans. The Euro media negatively sealed his fate not AA's so stop the finger pointing.

  • Christina | July 31, 2013 2:26 AM

    Your average black person has more depth than you give credit. Tiger Woods was kicked to the curb because perception. People act as if it is impossible for a mixed race person to want to distance themselves from their black side. There are black people who don't want to be black. How many positive things are black people associated with? People like that exists and when you live a Black existence you recognize it. That is a residual of being an oppressed, looked down upon race. Yes, his dad is black and his mom asian. I don't think any Black person is denying that. But look at who he surrounds his self with? Do you see people who look like his mom and dad for the most part? That would be the default expectation. None of the women he cheated with were black or asian. When he did his on air apology the only person of color there as part of his support group was his mom. That says a lot.

    There are some people that see embracing Black as being confining and in some respects it is. That is why a lot of mixed/lightskinned blacks passed for white back in the day. To have more opportunity and to not be limited by Jim Crow/discrimination. Now if you don't look like it too much like you can escape, but if you look like Tiger it won't be that easy.

  • PasseBlanc | June 13, 2013 8:09 PM

    What it comes down to is the "who can pass" and "who cannot pass." Most African Americans who trace their ancestry back to the civil war are mixed with something other than Black.
    However, society does not look at one's ancestry when they are out in the world. They look at their physical appearance and most of the time treat them according to the way they look. Darker skinned African Americans may have mixed roots but the world does not care because they do not have mixed raced looks with lighter skin, long hair, light eyes, etc etc.

    Darker skinned African Americans can shout up and down that they are biracial/mixed/multiracial etc etc but at the end of the day, when it is all said and done the world does not care and just treats them as BLACK.

    Therefore is does not make any real sense for them to describe themselves as mixed if the world does not see them as such.
    When you are mixed and LOOK mixed then the world sees and treats you different. It is just the reality of the world.

    This is why a lot (but not all) darker skinned African Americans harbor deep resentments towards light skinned African Americans, Biracial, or Mixed Raced People.
    They are upset at Vin Diesel because he has a CHOICE to be Italian or Black because he can physically look like both. Dark skinned African Americans do not get a choice.

  • Lynnie | June 3, 2013 8:31 AM

    LMAO @ Danny comment about blacks wanting "mixed race" people to choose. Clearly you know nothing about African American DNA. All AA's are mixed! Example......why don't you google Condoleezza Rice racial make up- 52% African and 48% European. ( both of her parents are black) or try Luis Henry Gates Jr. Who is exactly 50 Sub African and 50% European (both of his parents are black). My point is, all AA's should be checking the mixed race box. Oh yeah, Beyonce is not mixed race! that's commercial marketing you idiot. It's a proven fact that Condoleezza Rice has double the amount of European an DNA than Beyonce. I guess you think that's Beyonces real hair too?

  • prmulatta | June 2, 2013 11:03 PM

    You are absolutely right, and as mixed race people, we need to reclaim our own communities (and our historical figures!) that were destroyed by forced integration with the blacks during the 1920's. The black community is backwards and broken, and I for one ran out of patience with the bs. Thankfully my white half is from Puerto Rico (of French/Spanish extraction), so after marrying my white PR husband, I just decided to "disappear" into the Latino community as a Puerto Rican. They recognize mixed people for who they truly are! I wish I did it sooner, I don't even look black (think a Mariah Carey type of ambiguous), could've spared myself a lot....

  • Mixed Girl Who is "REALLY MIXED" and not "JUST BLACK" | June 1, 2013 11:54 PM

    @Danny ...You are SO RIGHT!!! ...It's refreshing to get some honesty on blogs like this. There's nothing wrong with being proud of your blackness, if you're black and proud, be proud and be happy for you! ...But for mixed folks who especially weren't raised in the black community, they shouldn't be ridiculed by blacks for not being 'black enough' or whole-heartedly devoting their lives to total 'blackness' or "African American-isms."

    ...You can't force someone to be what you want them to be, regardless of how you personally see them--how you see them comes from your own perspective...that doesn't mean it's the truth! ...And it shouldn't be automatically chocked up to be something negative like "Oh, they don't want to be black" or "See, how ashamed they are of their African heritage, they don't want people to see them as being black" or any numerous notions or accusations of delusional self-hate.

    People come from all parts of the world and have their own experiences and walks of life. There seems to be a self-centered view of the world from many Americans and many African Americans who have been groomed to lead that charge when it comes to what is considered black and what isn't. People don't deserve that type of pressure being placed on them. Biracials or mixed people come from mixed families and cultures, because of that, their loyalties are with their mixed families and you can't expect them to be solely loyal to the black community.

    It was sad to see how so many blacks ridiculed Tiger Woods for owning his multi-racial heritage. If he had called himself "African American" and only that, then the black community in America would have placed him on a pedestal and would idolize him as though he was God, but because he identified with what he really is, it suddenly became scandalous or shameful to the black community, as though he came from that community and owed them something....What about his Thai family? What about his Buddhist culture? Was he supposed to pretend that those aspects of his heritage and life didn't exist just to satisfy some self-hating blacks in America??? ....Who I suppose gave him something??? ...What was that, by the way???!!! ...It's amazing to me!!!

    Like it or not, the black community has to come to terms with the truth and the reality that many mixed people are just mixed (not 'Just Black' or 'Just White', etc.) and they live a life differently than that of your typical mono-racial white or black. It's just a fact. Accept it!!! Apparently, other races and cultures of other people in America and around the world have, why is it so hard for certain African Americans to accept?? ...It's time to move on already!!!

  • Mixed Girl Who is "REALLY MIXED" and not "JUST BLACK" | June 1, 2013 5:13 PMReply

    I think celebrities like the ROCK are a refreshing breath of common sense...FINALLY! Why is it wrong to embrace all of your identities?! I'm mixed and I feel fortunate to be as unique as I am. I hate it when a black person accuses me of "Wanting to be White" just because I don't loudly proclaim that "I'm black, and only Black!" Why should I do that? I feel equally foolish saying "I'm White, and only White!" ...Just as if I were to say "I'm Asian, and only Asian", in spite of the fact that this small percentage of my DNA seems to supersede my overall appearance. ...And why is it that I'm confronted by blacks with such a claim, when people of other races accept who I am???? This has always been an anomaly to me.

    I know that I appear racially ambiguous to everyone who meets me, so I don't feel the need to lean on one side of my tri-racial heritgage more than the other. I'm Mixed, that's what I am, and I am proud of who I am!!! ...Just like mixed-race celebrities who choose to stay ambiguous as well. We're no longer living in a Jim Crow era where you're pressured to choose a side and I say THANK GOD that is over!!!! I'm free to be who I am, What I REALLY AM!!! :)

  • Tammy4-76 | September 8, 2013 7:03 AM

    I think the problem lies in how blacks are perceived in this country. I can only speak for myself but I do believe a person has the right to associate themselves with whatever race they like. The problem lies in the "Shame" tag that is associated with being seen as black. It does not bother me when a person says "I'm mixed" or "I identify myself as the other race when I am black as well." What bothers me is when people feel they have to remind you that they are not just black if they get classified that way. However, if they get classified as the other race they are mixed with, they are fine with that. It's okay if you get called White, Mexican, or whatever but please don't just call me Black. Some get offended. It is not just like that with biracial individuals. It's the black community period. The lighter you are the better. Dark skinned people are made fun of. The black community has an "I got Indian in my family," complex. Don't let someone tell you, you had a great great great grandmother who was Cherokee Indian. We are always trying to remind people we are not just black.

  • TNT73 | May 29, 2013 1:53 PMReply

    LOL BLU

  • TnT73 | May 29, 2013 7:33 AMReply

    The Rock and Vin diesel are good looking????

  • c-cool | May 10, 2014 2:18 PM

    LMAO

  • JEFTCG | June 12, 2013 7:02 PM

    Blutopaz, THAT is the best description of Vin I have ever read.

  • BluTopaz | May 29, 2013 9:51 AM

    I've never understood that either. The Rock looks like Shrek, and Vin looks like an ugly face drawn on a penis.

  • Simeon | May 26, 2013 4:22 AMReply

    I say fair play to him. I'm mixed and I see it as an advantage, given the obsession the worldstill has with 'race'. DJ never hides away from who he is.

  • C-COOL | May 10, 2014 2:34 PM

    I think it's realistic to think he could play a father to a white boy because he's mixed and he could very easily have a white looking son, depending on the mother. Look at Garcelle Beauvais' kids and she's fairly dark, Tamera Mowry Housley's son is fair as well. Pete Wentz' mom is black, Jessica Alba's man and father to her daughter is part black as well. So, honestly, I don't see him as someone who's changed races for the movie. He has a plain American name, which is a name a black or white man could easily have. Race isn't even the main theme in this movie, or so it doesn't seem like one.

    He could also have black daughters, based on the mother. He know's he's not white, he doesn't try to be white, he doesn't try to be ambiguous either. I mean, what do people expect him to be, he's not Denzel Washington.

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