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First Look Footage From Steve McQueen's "Shame" + Venice Press Conference

by Tambay A. Obenson
September 5, 2011 1:16 AM
17 Comments
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Well, whadaya know... another Shame post. Get used to it, those who apparently are troubled by our coverage of it, 'cause, I'll be honest with ya, there'll be a lot more I'm sure.

This time it's the post-Venice Film Festival press conference (where the film made its debut yesterday), with director Steve McQueen and star Michael Fassbender on the mic. And, as the title of this post states, beginning at around the 2:30 mark, you'll see what I believe is the very first footage of the film to show up online; not much, only about a minute's worth.

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17 Comments

  • RECOVERED ADDICT | September 10, 2011 10:24 AMReply

    The producers of this short film are both recovering addicts who have both spent time living and indulging with drug addiction in Vancouver’s Downtown Eastside.

    http://www.archive.org/details/VancouverAddictionHomelessChaosPoverty

  • CareyCarey | September 7, 2011 2:04 AMReply

    “What I’m curious about is if you are so averted to the movie why do you continue to frequent the site’s coverage of it? Just don’t see it. If his handling of a sensitive area such as “terrorism” in Hunger is any indication of how gifted he truly is, I believe broaching the topic of addiction will be handled with the utmost precision and nuance by both the actors and directors” By Nia on September 6, 2011

    Nia, first, I read every post that’s submitted by S & A, some I get engaged with, other I avoid like they are The Black Death (plague)... the one on “The Talk” quickly comes to mind, which had over 80 comments. Now, since I’m an old school dude who has paid his dues for these knots on my head, I’ve taken on the tasks of trying to pass down the “right” messages. I may not always accomplish my goal, but when I see a post that hits my sweet spots, i.e. race relations, addictions, relationship, sidewinders, etc, just to name a few, I look and listen - with a keen eye - to the messages being sent by the authors of each post and those who comment. If I disagree with some of their sentiments, I’ve learned that a closed mouth will never get feed, and “arguments” & “disagreements” are the fastest roads to victory.

    Granted, this is a film blog and I love love love watching movie, but it’s been said many times and in many ways; movies are not “just” movies. If that were not true, we would not be having this discussion.

    “why would you expect a movie about a sex addict not to have sex? That’s like saying a movie about drug addiction won’t include drugs” ~ Nia

    Well Nia, you’re either not an author/writer or you’re very young. The story of “addictions” has many visions and several roads less and yet traveled. None of which has to show graphic drug usage, explicit sex acts, or naked ass of any nature, yet an engrossing, shocking and/or tremendously engaging story can to told without such over the top “theatrics“. In reference to “Shame”, I personally cannot find any redeeming qualities - by what’s been said about the movie - that would compel me to see it, let alone recommend it to others. It's not a story I'd pass on to one of my children or any young black youth.. ~ CareyCarey

    HI Blu, what’sup.

  • Nia | September 6, 2011 12:50 PMReply

    I don't believe anyone begged her to be in the film. She tried out on her own accord and they felt she was the right person for the role. What I'm curious about is if you are so averted to the movie why do you continue to frequent the site's coverage of it? Just don't see it.

    Are you even familiar with McQueens work at all? He debuted with a film about the IRA which left some of the audience walking out of the theatre and earned him a standing ovation and Palme d'or. He is no stranger to contrversial material. I don't expect actors that I like to always take the safe bet. McQueen is anything but.
    If you haven't I do hope you will at least see some of the man's prior work before passing judgement. If his handling of a sensitive area such as "terrorism" in Hunger is any indication of how gifted he truely is, I believe broaching the topic of addiction will be handled with the utmost precision and nuance by both the actors and directors.
    I've enjoyed our discourse. I do value your opinion.

  • BluTopaz | September 6, 2011 12:41 PMReply

    jeez luis.

    N-T-WAY: McQueen's whole premise of being "imprisoned by an addiction" happening to ordinary people is an interesting topic. Last time i saw something like that was in Requiem for a Dream, and McQueen sounds like an intriguing filmmaker. I'm always keen to watch work from Black filmmakers outside the U.S. --there are a lot of hangups and mental blocks here.

  • CareyCarey | September 6, 2011 8:17 AMReply

    “To state that, “this is just a movie that’s exploiting one of our up and coming new stars”, is baseless”

    Please Nia, your whole argument is baseless. You said it yourself, the role did not call for a black female, but yet they gave Nicole the part that some have said they’ve seen day players with more dialogue than Nicole has. So excuse me, but I see that as a bit of exploitation. Look, had Nicole not been attached to this film, I doubt we’d be having this conversation and you know it. So spare me, boo-who-boo-boo all you want, you can’t change the facts.

    “She is working with one of today’s most talented directors and some of the hottest actors available. McQueen has been nominated for BAFTA’s from his first film alone. I think he knows what he is doing. **SCREAMING BASELESS, MOOT, AND ALL THAT JAZZ!**

    Of course Mr. McQueen knows what he’s doing, that’s my point. But if you’re referring to his filmmaking abilities, your point is baseless b/c many directors - much more talented than him (with awards up the ying yang) - have been involved with flops and garbage. So what’s your point?

    Lastly, you said: “You are entitled to your opinion. I however will continue to support great projects by black filmmakers and actors”

    NOW you’re talking about something we can agree on. Well - except this great thing you’re talking about. I mean, there is a saying “one man’s garbage is another woman’s treasure” so I understand. Great to me is not A MOVIE ABOUT A SEX ADDICT, nor is my pleasure zone excited by the prospect of a guy whacking off on the job, or scenes of him slipping off to the seedy 3 hour motel. I can rent a damn porno with some of the hottest actors available, if that was my dream movie. That’s not a great project to me. But like you said, that’s my opinion, and it’s my prerogative to spend my money as I please. And again, I have to say this, if you desires to see the majestic beauty of Steve McQueen’s expertise, through a white dude beating his meat, and having sex with prostitutes, go at it. But don’t get mad at me when I say that sh*t sucks big time. Hey, it’s all fair in love and war - isn’t it - in the comment section of a film blog? You’re here telling people how great a movie this is, and I am the counter-voice saying, “slow your roll, don‘t make your move too fast. Look before you leap”. That’s fair isn’t it? I believe it’s all good.

    Thanks for the exchange.

  • Nia | September 6, 2011 6:42 AMReply

    I think in an earlier post about the script it was made clear race wasn't even a factor in the role Ms. Baharie is playing. She could easily be white, latino, or any other race that matter.
    To state that, "this is just a movie that’s exploiting one of our up and coming new stars", is baseless. She is working with one of today's most talented diectors and some of the hottest actors available.
    Beharie has made selective and very smart decisions in terms of advancing her career in my opinion. I don't believe she would allow herself to be limited by one sex scene in her already budding career.
    Mcqueen has been nominated for BAFTA's from his first film alone. I think he knows what he is doing. Fassbender is in more sex scenes than Beharie is he getting any shade thrown his way? No because why would you expect a movie about a sex addict not to have sex? That's like saying a movie about drug addiction won't include drugs. It's ridculous to expect every black female actress to be Clair Huxtable. I don't epect Beharie to limit herself to these roles either, because she is a versatile actress.
    You are entitled to your opinion. I however will continue to support great projects by black filmakers and actors. I wish McQueen and Beharie the best in their future endevors.

  • Nia | September 6, 2011 5:43 AMReply

    Hunger was actually the film that brought Micheal Fassbender and McQueen to my attention. If you haven't yet seen it, watch it. It is stunning. I was blown away by Nicole Beharie's performance in American Violet. Everything you post about the film makes me want to see it more. I don't get why everyone is up in arms about the sex scene IT'S A MOVIE ABOUT A SEX ADDICT. Otherwise, I believe all the actors can carry out a solid performance. Excited to see how McQueen will follow up Hunger.

  • BondGirl | September 6, 2011 3:50 AMReply

    This right here------>>>" But hey, whomever desires to see the majestic beauty of Steve McQueen’s expertise, through a white dude beating his meat, and having sex with prostitutes, go at it. There’s also a black chick in the movie. But hush, don’t cry fool when a black maid appears on the screen." has my stomach in knots from laughing so hard!!!

    Please, please see the movie...because I really could use more gems like that. I just wish someone had th guts to say, "The Help isn't racist, but doesn't appeal to me. The blacks aren't glamourous as I'd like, they have jobs I abhor, and the time period reminds me of my granddaddy's scrapped knuckles from scrubbing toilets.

    But to say white people are saviors in one movie, but act like they're not in another....makes you lose credibility.

  • CareyCarey | September 6, 2011 3:16 AMReply

    “I don’t get why everyone is up in arms about the sex scene”

    Yeah, I agree, uuuuuuuummm, Maids in the South (The Help) vs. Black Chicks in the bed (Shame). What’s the difference? What’s wrong with promoting a movie when the only black chick in the movie is nothing more than a cheap sexual conquest for the white male lead. Nia said, IT’S A MOVIE ABOUT A SEX ADDICT? Alexandria said, Fassbender’s character sleeps with prostitutes and masturbates at work! And that damn “The Help” was what?

    Yeah, why are some people up in arms about interracial sex? I mean, I don’t have sex with white people and this is just a movie that’s exploiting one of our up and coming new stars, so what’s the problem? We need more great stories like this, especially in black cinema.

    Listen, I am not planning on seeing Shame. I can’t find a reason to do that. But hey, whomever desires to see the majestic beauty of Steve McQueen’s expertise, through a white dude beating his meat, and having sex with prostitutes, go at it. There’s also a black chick in the movie. But hush, don’t cry fool when a black maid appears on the screen.

    Maid vs. Flip Flop Girl, you be the judge. What's the difference?

    Btw, I hope Clnmike is right when he said: “by the looks of it wont bust a bag of popcorn in the theaters”

  • j | March 4, 2012 1:50 AM

    ^ i see where your getting at with the sex scenes just finished watching the movie and half the stuff is pointless and boring to watch.Just like the pissing scene totally unimportant to the story .you could tell it was done for shock value .Same with some of the other stuff .i also have to agree with you about the porn analogy .If i wanted to see something this explicit i'd download some porn (which i plan to do after writing this comment)

    Fassbender was good with his acting lets not forget the man is and attractive face (typical hollywood formula for marketing a movie espcially like this one ). Im lost on the interracial issue.whats the big deal why is that even a topic ???..Race issues were the thing back in the 50's 60's etc..Its completely a generational thing as a matter of fact statistically speaking interracial relationships have increased over the past few years .(i digress) Shame was a good movie Not great but good with good acting .Over done sexuality if it were me directing id be more subtle with it .That way the emotions of addiction of the character would really stick out .(after all isnt that the whole point behind the this story?? one mans addiction to sex and how hes having trouble dealing with the emotions addiction distorts) ,i can completely relate to being and addict because i was addicted to alcohol at one point and the emotions that i had been surpressing rose up like a ballon in water all at once.its hard ..Ill give the film that much credit.
    im and aspiring actor myself and my hat goes off to fassbender for having the guts to expose himself like that on film .i would do sex scenes sure why not i would do some nudity once again dont have issues with it .What he did HELL NO! id most certainly have double for it ..for all the sex scenes .a good porn actor at that .After all this is films falls into the category of Pornchic right ???..we're all missing the big picture .movies and actors are supposed to tell stories .their in the story telling buisness .Doing raunchy sex scenes is not a talent what so ever .If it is why arent more porn stars who want to go legit doing so ????...i think when you have to go the extra mile when showing not just sex violence ,gore etc..your compensating for something .Your film lacks something so you fillerbust .which this film does .Overall i give it and A" for effort definetly could of been better without all the excessive sex ..If your someone who supports the overt use of sex in films like this one .Why not picket hollywood studios and demand more pornography in your regular films,t.v show.t.v movies.t.v networks,disney movies even .Hell go all out with it stop beating around the bush .demand it .i think hollywood has become desperate enough with having to result to making remakes of old tv shows and films ..that i think if pushed far enough will start jacking up the sexual content and demanding their actors to do the real deed in front of a camera .that'll be the day (which i hope never comes ) if you want porn go to a porn shop.if you want to see a really good movie go to the showcase ^you hit it right on the head my friend

  • Clnmike | September 5, 2011 9:01 AMReply

    For real this movie is getting just a little too much hype on here, and by the looks of it it wont bust a bag of popcorn in the theaters.

  • BluTopaz | September 5, 2011 8:32 AMReply

    Well then that will only give fodder to people who want to use this film as leverage to bitch and complain because there are people who do not like other types of movies, but whatever.

    Another point she said in the interview is that Black actresses are constantly pressured by "us" to always be seen in a positive light. We've all seen cerebral flicks with all kinds of nudity in sex scenes, it's interesting to note when Black actors do these roles Black people hold them to higher standards, and all the reasons why. Some I agree with, others I don't. The sex scene in Monster's Ball was repulsive because imo, it played into all kinds of stereotypes.I have no idea if Shame uses any of that racial visual shorthand to shock, but i am interested in seeing it for Steve McQueen's work and Nicole.

  • Anwar | September 5, 2011 7:51 AMReply

    @ BluTopaz

    She IS involved in one of the graphic sex scenes in the film and she is nude. I think she meant that she would never compromise her own dignity by doing a film or a scene in a film that is degrading for no purpose. She also said that a lot of her family questioned why she would even do this film due to it's subject matter.

  • BluTopaz | September 5, 2011 6:55 AMReply

    In the interview with Nicole posted on this site recently (sorry don't remember the writer), she noted that she would never do anything to compromise her dignity, so she probably is not involved in any graphic sex scenes in Shame. If that's the case, maybe the film's critics on this site who are still butthurt about the flamefest another certain movie received will have nothing to say.

  • Angela Tucker | September 5, 2011 2:12 AMReply

    Feel free to post about this as much as you'd like!

  • Sell Out | September 5, 2011 1:42 AMReply

    I think all of the coverage for Shame has been excellent on this blog.

    Not only have the writers covered a wide variety of angles, but really enforced word-of-mouth that this will truly be a great cinematic experience. I have to concur from what I've read both here and other journals.

    Keep it up! Steve McQueen is about to get huge.

  • Neziah | September 5, 2011 1:24 AMReply

    Sweet. Keep up the great coverage, guys.

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