'Freeway' Rick Ross, Producer Mark Wolper Talk To S&A’s Sergio About Cable TV Mini-Series Project

Interviews
by Sergio
September 23, 2013 1:10 PM
19 Comments
  • |

Rick Donnell Ross, better known as “FreewayRick Ross wouldn’t argue with the suggetion that he once had, one could say, an infamous past.

During the 1980s, Ross ran a drug trafficking empire that stretched from the South across the Midwest to Washington State, and employed thousands of employees.

But the story gets even more complex when it was revealed that Ross’ organization was involved with the rather complicated Iran Contra scandal during the Reagan presidency, in which the White House approved sales of weapons to Iran, which was under an arms embargo, when the country was at war with Iraq, and at the same time funded Nicaraguan Contras, a rebel military group fighting the leftist Sandinista government running the country.

Ross was later sentenced to life imprisonment in 1996, though released in 2009, and since then, has been working to keep young people from following the path that he took.

Now Ross, along with veteran TV and film producer Mark Wolper (Bates Motel - whose father, the legendary TV producer David Wolper, produced the ABC mini-series Roots) and Antonio Moore, managing member of Freeway Studios, have announced that they are planning a cable TV mini-series about the story of Ross, his drug empire and his downfall.

The project was briefly revealed in an article about Ross “Say Hello to Rick Ross” in the current 80th anniversary issue of Esquire magazine, but Ross, Wolper and Moore wanted to talk to me to give S&A all the exclusive details about the mini-series.

SERGIO: So tell us what is the story behind this project.

WOLPER I heard Rick Ross’ story, which oddly enough as a student of history I was not familiar with, his personal story and his journey through this whole thing. So I became familiar with it, and for the last two years I’ve been chasing him and convinced him that there is a mini-series or a limited series in his story. A story of the African-American experience in urban Los Angeles during the 1980’s and the whole Iran-Contra scandal through this pretty amazing period of time in America. So we have finally, as of a couple of days ago, come to an agreement, after discussing this for several years, and now we are going to go out and turn this into a big mini-series.

I assume this will be for a cable network.

WOLPER: Absolutely this will be for cable. I don’t think ABC or CBS would have the bravery to do such as an important project.

Are you in negotiations right now with a particular network that you can reveal at this point?

WOLPER: We can’t right now, but we are in very serious discussions with two right now at this moment. I can’t say who they are, but there are people who are interested in it.

Now I have to say that you know people will read this and say “What, again? Another film project about a drug dealer? Is that all we can get? Can’t you do something else instead? Enough is enough”.  What’s your response to that?

ROSS: I’m here in Detroit and I just finished speaking to students at Central High School and I delivered a message to these young people that they have never heard before. You see, they don’t understand why they want to be drug dealers. They don’t understand why they want to be thugs. I believe that through the eyes of my story they’re going to understand where the brutality comes from that they hear on the radio. They’re going to understand why three rappers have taken my name and used it in some form or fashion. And I think my story is going to explain to everybody how they got to the point where they are today. And that why this story is a “must” story. And not only is it a “must” story, but it’s going to get told.

And let me add that in Esquire’s their new anniversary issue this month they said they covered my story because of its impact on America and its unique range. It is not just another drug story. It’s the story that explains the drug game and its creation top to bottom.

MOORE: And what I want to say, in addition, is that we’re basing this story on the biographical book that Cathy Scott is writing; and this story is the things at the end of The Wire. I mean we’ve had The Wire, but we’ve never had something of this scale and of this context and the depth of history in terms of factual proof based on government documents and what really happened. So I think this story’s scale and depth takes it beyond just being a drug dealer’s story, but into a story with a human element and an American history element which is much different actually.

WOLPER: There have been many films and shows about drug dealers, black, white, Asian, Mexican, Russian, whatever race you can imagine. The thing that makes this story important, to my mind, is that this is a true story of a young man who is pawned into being involved with something that was bigger than himself and he didn’t know it. This is a story that has to be told to young Americans today. Not just African-American America, all of America. It says, be careful what you believe, because it may not be what it seems.

O.K. then I must then ask another question and this is especially aimed at Rick. There are people who say that you don’t seem to feel any remorse for what you’ve done or the lives you have destroyed, and now it looks like you’re about to make even more money, with this film project, on top of the money you made before, with no second thoughts or regrets.

ROSS: Well the first thing I would say is that I went to prison and I did my time. And not only do I have remorse, I’m right now going around making amends, trying to derail the system that is still setting up young innocents, setting young boys and girls up. Just like Mark just said, be careful what you ask for because sometimes you get what isn’t expected. And I believe right now with our music industry, they’re really promoting a lifestyle that I don’t want anyone to live.

MOORE: I totally agree with you. And one of the things that I think Rick’s story definitely does is that it brings an integrity to the view of mass incarceration through humanity. And the reason why I say that is because so often drug dealers have been portrayed as superheroes who can beat anybody up. And Rick’s story takes this back down to the human level as a boy who became a drug dealer and how did this happen. How did we allow that to happen in our families, in our communities and almost lawful on a governmental level?

And I believe the show can go far in giving better light to the Trayvons of the world as being seen not just through violent action, so they are not just seen through a light of criminality but instead as people, as Americans. It’s funny how all people can really connect with humanity, when it is displayed in a form they understand. Television is such a powerful medium It can allow people to see other ways of thinking through showing a different form of imagination than they had thought possible.

WOLPER: And I’ve never said this to Rick before, but I believe that Rick is neither a hero nor a victim. Usually those stores are making someone a hero or making someone a victim. Rick Ross was neither. Rick took the only thing that was put in front of him and he took it and turned it into a business not knowing that he was a pawn. So the story of a pawn is not the story of a hero and it’s not the story of a victim. Because a victim would have died or gotten shot in South Central L.A. A hero would have not done what he did or figured out a way to survive. But he had neither of those options. He took what was in front of him. The only thing that was available to him that someone put in front of him. An amazing deal that he didn’t understand why, he didn’t ask why, he just did it. And he became a pawn in something that was bigger than himself. As I said before, be careful where you step because you might be stepping into a bear trap.

MOORE: This is part of the reason why we chose Wolper Productions because of their immense history in television as whole, but particularly to African American stories as they did with Roots and Roots: The Next Generation and with Queen. What we saw in their vision of how the story is beyond just the drug element, but into the actual human element.

WOLPER: With Roots, Alex Haley would say he “did not set out to make a political statement, rather to tell a truly American Story." He accomplished that goal and got over 130 million viewers (that was over 60 % of all of America) and the highest rated series of all time.

But he also led to progressive thought in the black community about their history, and deeper thought in the white community about how deeply black history was intertwined with American History. We believe by telling a great American story we can do that as well.

Interviews
  • |

More: Interview, TV News, TV Features

You might also like:
Free Indie Movies and Documentaries    

19 Comments

  • Amenet Ma'at | October 6, 2013 3:03 PMReply

    I personally I think that this is a brilliant collaboration, in reference to raising awareness and mainstream America. It is quite obvious that the masses of American population remain ignorant, naive are just simply unaware of such conditions and what is causing them. And before any change can be made in these particular matters a strong sense of awareness must be brought to the people's attention.

  • Jason Pearson | September 25, 2013 11:19 AMReply

    Wow I know their company made some great Emmy award winning talent like Louis Gossett Best Actor in the 70's. Lets bring a real show to TV and challenge the emmys to award blacks again...

  • Shaunda Mauldin | September 24, 2013 7:04 PMReply

    Commend Wolper on Roots and now Freeway. Bring it to their homes and they will care Great Oprah Video on Roots online where she talked to the case -- Thx Sergio Great Work. Looking fwd to this!!!

  • Lawrence | September 23, 2013 10:30 PMReply

    I really think this is a part of American History that should be televised via Cable Network. The Ricky Freeway Ross involvement with Iran- Contra series is something I would want to know about when speaking on history in America. It only make since to know what Iran - Contra was completely.

  • Troy | September 25, 2013 3:14 AM

    You only want to know about this or everything else that went on in and for or because if this country. Or you just want to know how the government participates in the drug trade.

  • Kevyn Nelson | September 23, 2013 9:50 PMReply

    This is a story that must be told and understood because there is so much glorification of the lifestyle that Rick once lived by those that have the public influence and attention through hip hop however the part that is often missed is the downfall, all the lonely nights but even more than that the drive and determination that it took not only to survive in the game but to also regain his freedom when the powers that be felt they had locked him up and threw away the keys.

  • Orlando Davis | September 23, 2013 6:43 PMReply

    I think this a good move for you Ross, it's time for your story be told the right way. You have my support 100% and anything I can do to help with this or anything else please let me know and I'm on it right away... Love you for life!!

  • DKNODEAL | September 23, 2013 6:14 PMReply

    ITS LONG OVER-DUE AND THE REASON ITS TAKEN SO LONG IS BECAUSE FREEWAY IS DOING THE RIGHT THING, THE RIGHT WAY & TELLING THE TRUTH WHILE SINCERELY TRYING TO HELP THE YOUTH. THESE POINTS ARE ALL STRIKES IN THE EYES OF THE BUTTON PUSHERS THAT CONTROL ENTERTAINMENT.

  • KAHLIL BROWN | September 23, 2013 4:12 PMReply

    im very prod to see you doing great things and helping many people like my self god bless uncle

  • kahlil | September 23, 2013 4:13 PM

    i meant to say proud

  • shaunte jackson | September 23, 2013 4:10 PMReply

    Very disrespectful statement about Roots by careycarey for many of us it gave us pride. It allowed black talent and america to see Slavery on screen. Comment should be deleted.

  • CareyCarey | September 23, 2013 5:08 PM

    *LOL*... Roots gave you pride and my comment should be deleted!!!???

    I've heard many mysterious opinions in my life but that's competing for the grand prize.

  • Denise Shiver | September 23, 2013 3:59 PMReply

    Great work shadow and act. Lets get more of us on tv

  • Jake millstone | September 23, 2013 3:58 PMReply

    CareyCarey while your opinion is respected. It is both angry and short sighted. People had much the same criticisms before rrots aored. Its time to get the discussion going. Particularly given that black men are half of the prisoners. As a black historian I have never seen a time so designed to imprison AA men. The story is the key not the man. It is extremely important to tell it.

  • CareyCarey | September 23, 2013 5:02 PM

    "CareyCarey... your opinion is angry and short sighted"

    Jake, let me tell you a short story. One time my brother contracted the "ringworms". It's a skin decease that treated by a stinky smelling salve. While my mother was applying it to his head, my brother complained, saying it was nasty and stink, and thus tried to convince her to take it away. Point blank, my mother told him you have to get nasty and angry and stanky serious with ANYTHING that's trying to harm you... half-stepping politeness will not work.

    Jake, I am not angry but in many ways my life parallels that of Mr. Ross's. Consequently I believe there are better ways to deliever a message on the evils of drug and all that implies.

    Point is, as the story is being pitched, I wouldn't advise anyone to jump on this bandwagon until more specific details of it's plot are divulge. Think about it, if a person desires to learn the history of the Iran-contra scandal, they know where to go. So what's left, a drug story which highlights balling and mo' mony, mo' money-mo'money, with the end being the bad guy goes to jail (AND GETS OUT)? Hell, any 5th grader knows drugs and crime seldom equates to a happy ending. So I am suggesting that if this story does not carefully consider ALL the messages it might send, it's a prescription for disaster. A young impressionable mind could leave with the idea that if they got in the game, slightly changed a few things and didn't make Rick's mistakes, they can live in baller's heaven. Hell, Rick is living proof that crime does pay and anyone can be a movie star... even a drug kingpin.

  • CareyCarey | September 23, 2013 3:37 PMReply

    Normally I'd find myself lavishing praise upon Sergio for a job well done. In my opinion there's not a better interviewer here at S&A. However, today I have to call, "GAME-GAME-GAME and Sergio is being pimped.

    I mean, Sergio's traditional style is to take no prisoners, but today he seems to have welcomed the opportunity at being the bag man for the mob and/or a willing pawn.

    Check it out, Sergio hit Rick with a seemingly rough question, "There are people who say that you don’t seem to feel any remorse for what you’ve done... or the lives you have destroyed... now you're making more money with no second thoughts or regrets"

    Rick's response was a tepid excuse without remorse. Oh, that's right, he did his time and now he's talking to students while he promotes his film... and he was a pawn, not a dope dealer who destroyed the lives of thousands. Come on now, Sergio should have jumped right in his ass. Where was the heartfelt details and passionate remorse associated with the lives he destroyed? Has he ever taken responsibility for the woman who where turned-out, used and abused because of their addiction, or the deaths associated to a product he put on the street? Has Rick shared his acceptance of those brutal crime, or is he content with hiding behind the pawn game thang?

    Speaking of the pimping and the pawn game, the purveyor of this three ring circus is none other than another white guy. You know, no disrespect intended, but his daddy was an old school pimp who has been pimping "black history" for quite some time (remember Chicken George, Kunta Kinta, Fiddler and Toby), so like father, like son.

    But shame on Mark Wolper for selling this drug story as "An "important" story of a African-American experience of a po' young black man who was duped, tricked, bambozzled and pawned into being involved with something that was bigger than himself and he didn’t know it. The only thing that was available to him was that drug someone put in front of him."

    GET-THE-FU*K-OUT-OF HERE-WITH-THAT-SLOW-DRAG-BULLSH*T!

    Listen, Rick is obviously an intellient man, so I believe a few books and a formal education was available to him, as it was to millions of others who did not become dope dealers nor pawns. So miss me with that sorry game. Don't lie to me softly while telling me "the government did it."

    That technique may work with a few gullible negros, but game recognize game.

  • CareyCarey | September 23, 2013 4:31 PM

    Sergio, you had me worried. I didn't think you condoned capitalizing off the misery of others.

    @ Rick and Mark, come on men, when you pitch the story as you have, you do yourself and the black community an injustice. Those of us who have "kissed the sky" and flown in those friendly skies - subsequently falling to our knee - are not trying to hear that. Some of us played the game and felt the pain of doing the time. And there are those who still feel the pain of losing a loved one to the dreaded addiction game who are not in a mood to accept the "blame it on the white man" storyline.

  • Sergio | September 23, 2013 3:49 PM

    I wasn't "pimped", just the opposite. I think it's very obivous what Ross was trying to pull off and it didn't need any editorializing from me. Your response is exactly what I expected from readers

  • Stan Ackford - Alabama | September 23, 2013 2:40 PMReply

    Great Job!! WOW Imagine the power of this Television. I watched Roots as a child with my father and will do the same with this with my own family

Follow Shadow and Act

Email Updates

Most "Liked"

  • Taraji P. Henson Drama 'From The Rough' ...
  • Electro (Jamie Foxx) Faces Off Against ...
  • Watch Omar Sy In Action As Bishop In ...
  • Black Movie Trivia - Congrats to our ...
  • Interview: Chatting with RZA About Paul ...
  • Sidney Poitier Made Oscar History Today ...
  • Critically-Acclaimed Doc 'The Trials ...
  • Weekend B.O. April 11-13 (Close, But ...
  • GLAAD Awards Honors Jennifer Lopez-Produced ...
  • A Look At Seattle International Film ...