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MSNBC Does No Favors For Joy-Ann Reid

by Sergio
December 20, 2013 7:38 PM
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2013 was a lousy year for MSNBC. First there’s the network’s sinking ratings and then that whole Alec Baldwin debacle which everyone knew was going to be a train wreck; and it was.

Then if things couldn’t get any worse, there was the whole controversy over Martin Bashir and his negative remarks about Sarah Palin, which forced him (rather more like the network forced him) to resign from his 4PM show.

With Bashir gone, immediately there was talk about who would take over his slot, and everyone said that the only obvious choice was MSNBC regular contributor and political know-it-all Joy-Ann Reid. She’s been the most dependable “go to” person on the network for a long time now, and she’s smart, savvy with a fantastic knowledge about the inner workings of politics.

Not only that, but she has proven over and over again that she’s a smooth and professional TV host, regularly subbing on several MSNBC shows. In fact, Reid has been filling in for Bashir since his exit from the show.  Furthermore, in one recent online poll asking readers to vote for who they wanted to be Bashir’s replacement, Reid was the overwhelming No.1 choice. Who else is more suited to take over his slot permanently?

Even MSNBC president Phil Griffin hinted to the media a few months ago that there was something definitely in the works for Reid on the network.

That’s why, today, Griffin announced today that Now host Alex Wagner would be taking over Bashir’s place, starting on January 13th. Quoting Griffin: "Alex is an incredible talent and her voice is a perfect lead-in to our evening programming."

So I guess that makes Reid just hired help.

But wait! That would mean there’s still an open slot, since Wagner is moving her daily 12 noon show to 4PM. There's an open slot available at 12 noon for a new show, with a new host. 

Well, not so fast! Most likely the time slot will go to Ronan Farrow, a human rights lawyer with zero previous experience as a journalist or in politics (and the son of actress Mia Farrow and Frank Sinatra). He has been publicly promised a day time slot for his own show by Griffin from the moment Farrow signed on with the network.

Talk about white male privilege. What other reason is there for it? Meanwhile, poor Joy-Ann is left out in the cold again.  

When is her contract up? Maybe there could be greener pastures somewhere else. CNN? Fox News? Hey don’t laugh. Suppose Fox offered her a show; who thinks she wouldn’t take it, and not bring some sanity to the network? Stranger things have happened.

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  • lil | April 29, 2014 11:31 PMReply

    Ronan Farrow is not the son of frank Sinatra. He is saying that because he is disgusted with his Dad Woody Allen.

  • sergio | April 29, 2014 11:34 PM

    He's his son alright. You're too young to remember by Sinatra and Farrow were married, very briefly, back during the late 1960's around the time she was making Rosemary's Baby. On top of that get a picture of young Sinatra and compare it to Roman Farrow/ The similarities are striking

  • Pearlie barton | February 24, 2014 5:09 PMReply

    I am so Happy for Joy Reid. I just love her She is very smart and beautiful,Congrats God Blessing I will be watching along with all my friends and family.

  • Just sayin' in LV | February 3, 2014 4:09 PMReply

    Quite frankly I'm glad she's come out against Snowden. Some jerk thinks that to agree with Snowden's antics, it proves Obama is behind this. Absolutely false. No proof & people who think like this should watch their master's voice: Fox Noise!!!!! Why shouldn't people deserve a show? Soledad Obrien deserved a show after her great anchoring of Katrina. She got one about 3 years later that lasted about a year then she was gone! No one seems to care when the anchors are thrown under the bus (Bashir, Olbermann come to mind) and are gone, gone, gone

  • Claudia Thomas | February 3, 2014 4:03 PMReply

    It doesn't sound like she's getting her own show if there are 2 spots & 3 anchors.
    Alex Wagner for sure! Ronan Farrow?

  • Rhonda | January 28, 2014 2:50 PMReply

    Congratulations Joy-Ann! It's about time. You are intelligent and most deserving of this promotion!

  • Marie. Shear | January 27, 2014 10:57 PMReply

    Joy is tops in my book. I always want to hear her. Input on a ray of issues. She is honest, fair and very knowledgable. She would make a wonderful host on her own show.

  • Kidd | January 27, 2014 1:23 PMReply

    Seems both MSNBC's viewers like this move. Family members don't count. But I'm sure they too are pleased.

  • RON.C | January 11, 2014 10:30 AMReply

    I love you Joy-Ann! Ditto to what Laura said...Stay faithful!

  • Laura | January 8, 2014 10:14 PMReply

    Joy-Ann Reid is one of the rare pundits who is able to analyze and articulate clearly the major issues of our time. Frankly neither Thomas Roberts, Alex Witt nor Tamron Hall, have even half of her insight. I suppose the network feels there's a quota on the number of women or African American women you can have host a show, but I find it appalling that a rank amateur, no matter how talented he is, is going to be foisted on us viewers, even if Dad is old "blue eyes". Joy, we all respect you and know what the deal is here, and it's not pretty.

  • Gail | December 31, 2013 8:37 PMReply

    I like Joy, not because she is a black woman, but because she is one of the few people, Rachel Maddow the other person who really knows how to articulate political happenings without sounding BORING. I also like Alex, Chris, Steve and Melissa but they are also BORING.

  • Donella | December 30, 2013 8:01 PMReply

    PBS, at one point, had three dark-skinned black women successfully hosting public policy programs. I'm not sure about lately, but maybe that's a move to consider.

  • NewsObservor | December 24, 2013 2:32 PMReply

    As a previous poster put it - MSNBC's decision is part of the Colorism 101. National news by an indescribable margin taps ethnically ambiguous, light-skinned people to be their anchors - particularly black women. Whether it's msnbc or another cable network. Just do a mental survey of the minute percentage of black women represented on national news right now (don't bother to look at the major networks nightly news - you'll be hard pressed to find them). Think about it - Soledad O'Brien, Frederica Whitfield, Melissa Harris-Perry, Robin Roberts. It was actually a sad shock to see Reid on air to begin with! Sure there are a couple of exceptions to this rule. It's the exceptions that make the rule. And to any moron who tries to disparage Reid's abilities as to why she didn't get her own show - that has ZERO to do with it. And yes, I'm sure she would have wanted to host her own show - who doesn't want that kind of platform?? Even if you are "busy with other things" as another poster said to try to justify this decision. AND there are plenty of incompetent, inexperienced lame presenters out there who get on-air only because the head honcho, aka good old boy, gives them the green light. Get real - TV news isn't about talent, it's about a gatekeeper deciding to give you the golden ticket.

  • Marc | December 23, 2013 11:41 AMReply

    So what if Reid hasn't gotten a show? Why is she entitled to a TV show? Wagner is a woman of color. Ronan Farrow is openly gay.

    Just because Reid is black and talented doesn't mean that she deserves her own TV show.
    I lost respect for Reid when she hopped aboard the anti-Snowden train in order to carry water for Obama. That showed a lack of integrity.

  • Accidental Visitor | December 23, 2013 1:32 PM

    Is championing Snowden any better? The guy was an anti-whistle blower when Bush was in office and even wrote on chat lines that such people should be shot. As soon as Obama took office he changed his tune and became worried about government overreach (even though most of the NSA overreach was initiated under GW's watch). That makes Snowden a libertarian hypocrite.

    Other than that I concur with your post.

  • marie collins | December 23, 2013 10:56 AMReply


  • Accidental Visitor | December 23, 2013 9:59 AMReply

    Sergio, odeon ell doesn't mess up nearly as Reid. And when he does flub he is able to quickly and deftly transition back into his prepared dialogue that you barely notice. His worse mistakes are not some common occurrence that happens every show unlike Reid who makes these glaring mistakes every time. Not to mention odeon ell is superior at keeping his talking heads in line and taking command of a segment in a way that Reid as of yet cannot duplicate.

    You obviously have a lot of love for Reid which would explain why you use this site to consistently go to bat for her. But please take note that those of us with a different view don't have an agenda like you. If I thought Reid was good enough I would say so. Obviously it is a subjective thing. But what is not subjective is MSNBC's commitment to getting black people FaceTime on air. MSNBC does a great job of providing black people a shot at having a show. Reid doesn't have one because TPTB must not think she measures up. And if you are going to take a shot at this Farrow guy for having no experience as a tv host you would also have to level the same charge at Rev Al when he was given a show.

  • sergio | December 23, 2013 10:13 AM

    You've been living in a cave? Rev Al has been a permanent TV fixture for 30 years. On news shows, talk shows, game shows, sit-coms, had his own radio show for years, has hosted several of his own shows including reality shows. Have you even bothered to check out his list of TV credits on IMDB? The guy has hundreds (maybe thousands) of TV appearences since 1981. The guy is a TV pro. Giving him his own TV was no brainer. This Farrow guy is nobody who obviosuly is some close friend of MSNBC preisdent Phil Griffin. Of course I like Reid I like her a lot and I go for bat for her. Going to have me arrested for that?

    Or is it as Blutopaz just said "AV has a problem with anyone who is Black and owns a vagina."

  • James Williams | December 23, 2013 2:28 AMReply

    Think about it just because we as viewers respect Joy and the massages she give to my village and political point of view.Thank you

  • gloria | December 23, 2013 2:25 AMReply

    For all of you who are bringing race into this....please note Alec Wagner is bi-racial.

  • Pat | January 27, 2014 12:11 PM

    So is Melissa Harris-Perry.

  • Accidental Visitor | December 23, 2013 9:44 AM

    She is bi-racial but she doesn't have any black ancestry. according to her bio she is an Asian-white mix. But who cares? There are four MSNBC hosts who are black, three of them being women (of which two have weekend shows).

  • CC | December 23, 2013 4:12 AM

    **Shrugging shoulders**... and?

  • Accidental Visitor | December 23, 2013 12:45 AMReply

    And for god's sakes people need to stop suggesting that this is some sort of insult that she hasn't gotten her own show. She isn't entitled to a show. And if we are to interject race into the discussion let us not forget that MSNBC has three shows hosted by black women. And that's not even factoring in the heavy rotation of black female talking heads who can be found on a daily basis on the shows of Rev Al, Chris Hayes and Lawrence O'Donnell. If anything one could argue that black women are overrepresented on MSNBC in general considering the lack of shows hosted by Asians and non-black/non-white Latinos, as well as the relative lack of talking heads of those same two groups.

  • Accidental Visitor | December 23, 2013 12:37 AMReply

    Reid is an intelligent journalist/writer who can hold her own against anyone when used as a talking head for one of the various MSNBC shows

    What she isn't, however, is host material. Not yet at least. She has one major flaw which really holds her back. She is horrible with the teleprompter. She is, to this day, still making glaring mistakes every opportunity she gets to fill in as host (even Rev Al doesn't make such mistakes on a regular basis). Yesterday I only watched about 30 minutes of the 2 hours she served as guest host for MHP's show and she BADLY messed up the reading intro into the final segment; so bad she had to stop, apologize and basically start over again.

  • BluTopaz | December 23, 2013 9:55 AM

    "...Funny you have no problem with that..."

    AV has a problem with anyone who is Black and owns a vagina.

  • sergio | December 23, 2013 9:21 AM

    First of all Lawrence O'Donnell messes up ALL THE TIME on his show misreading and stumbling over the Telepromter yet you don't criticize him for that and 2) you don't mention a word against Ronan Farrow, a guy who's been on MSNBC for only the last two to three months as a pundit and who has NO experience hosting a news show and yet MSNBC is going to give him his own daytime show. Funny you have no problem with that

  • Accidental Visitor | December 23, 2013 12:50 AM

    Some people have the knack for reading a teleprompter and being able to smoothly go from one topic to the next. Some folks can expertly slide the viewers into the commercial break regardless of what is going on around them. Reid can not. Not on a consistent basis. If you know anything about TV journalism you know that no matter how good you are as a print journalist or how smart you are, you are not a good fit to headline a show if you don't have the skills that allow you to orchestrate a seamless show. Reid just doesn't possess those needed abilities. She may be smarter than many of the men and women who host their own programs, but that doesn't make any difference if she continues to flub her lines.

  • Reda StCyr | December 22, 2013 11:27 PMReply

    Yes I know Tamron Hall is on msnbc but Tamron's agenda is more in line with RW Republicans an is not loved for her reporting ( it is what it is)

  • Reda StCyr | December 22, 2013 11:25 PMReply

    Super pissed all over again First with the trashing of Martin Bashir Now with the replacement of a non Black person ( yes I like alex wagner that has nothing 2 do with it) We have one Black talk host on weekdays an the majority msnbc audience is Black an has given them ratings they never had before, over CNN an yes we like seeing people that look like us speaking on the issues also
    Sick of this White washed mess they want to push in all our face!!!

  • James Williams | December 23, 2013 8:24 AM

    Yes it is and as a American-African,I do view this as she is to black intelligent,real and all woman who look just like her people.with that image of 100%is just to powerful for white males across the the spectrum.white woman on the republican side cant stand that look some on the left try to hide from it.Yes I know when subjects like this comes YOU say it's racism while it is what it is.And until you ,if you are a hater of the the black man and woman on both sides don't or want try to understand that most of us dont want nothing but equally, pride, honor,wisdom and respect just like you and your family enjoy atop being fake ,American Africans know your DNA.we are the son's and daughters of slavery.We will not be slaves of your fake political science.Happy Holiday to MSNBC Family Joy to the real world.

  • Barbara Lee | December 22, 2013 8:48 PMReply

    I suppose I will not tune in at 4:00 pm !

  • tony | December 22, 2013 7:18 AMReply

    Well holyshith no one knows why Joy Ann Reid doesn't have her own show at MSBNC? Really, I mean seriously, you don't know why?
    Ok, I'm gonna tell you why and $*#k anybody that doesn't like
    what I'm about to say:
    No, I mean really black! How black? When it comes to the grocery bag test she flunks every time!
    Aside from being one of the most knowledgeable (along with Rachel), intelligent and seasoned commentators that can operate without a script, the only thing that holds her back in TV-LAND is the package she's wrapped in.
    TV likes light/white skinned pretty people, especially at MSNBC. I've been
    waiting for someone to bring up the name of that network's favorite
    sidekick and why she has been passed over time and again.
    Folks, this Colorism-101! AKA: Facial discrimination.

  • Okay | December 21, 2013 6:09 PMReply

    "So I guess that makes Reid just hired help."
    Unless she owns considerable stock in GE...yes...she's just an employee.

  • Ed | December 21, 2013 12:52 PMReply

    Let's be real for a minute. Wagner is more physically attractive than Joy. At the end if the day for all of its liberal posturing, MSNBC is a cold hearted business.

  • Nanton | December 21, 2013 4:41 PM

    Listen Ed, It is better to keep your mouth shut than to open it and remove all doubt.

  • Junius Solomon | December 20, 2013 10:44 PMReply

    There is an ancient Chinese proverb that advises "when you are angry never write a letter." Well I am going to violate that rubric and commit my thoughts to prose. For quite awhile I have wondered why Joy was not considered for other anchor positions that were recently created. As a loyal fan of MSNBC, I have found joy's political acumen to be unmatched. Therefore, I suspect that MSNBC can not articulate a rational basis for denying Joy the opportunity to fill the new vacancy. Moreover, I have learned that MSNBC fans overwhelmingly favored Joy for the new position. It must be noted that I do not believe your refusal to hire Joy for this position is based on race. However, I must ask you to explain or rebut the assertion that she was denied the position because of her dark skin. Again, not race. The evidence is overwhelming that in your media, there are few to any dark skinned African American anchors. You have the opportunity to correct this persistent injustice and hire Joe Reid. Go to it!

  • Kori Raishon | December 21, 2013 10:12 AM

    Other non-white, or white's that are not apart of the click are creating their online networks. Black like myself are doing the same. I saw this coming in the 1970s when they did not allow Cosby to buy NBC in the 1980s.

    Communities that do not fit the stereotype that they are looking for are using the internet to create video that says something about their community and represent the people and the stories in their community. I have been doing this since 2001. But the unlike the other communities where there businesses are supporting them, it is an up hill battles for most if not all black producers to create work as they still turn their $1.3 billion consumer dollars to the 1% that control the media via the commercial advertisement that to is a conglomerate of businesses that are with in that click of the wealthy.

    Until we understand that black dollars support the injustices that they see, then they will continue to scream, get mad and be offended by those who use their dollars to create their own empire that feed their pockets and not the pockets of whom they don't want to serve. We are in a capitalist country which has nothing to do with democracy.

  • Amari | December 20, 2013 10:04 PMReply

    Has anyone bothered to ask Joy-Ann what she wants? Maybe she's not interested in hosting a show on MSNBC. Has she publicly said that this is something she wants to do? Do people even know that she's a filmmaker by education and she's working on a documentary feature right now in addition to doing radio, running The Grio, writing for the Miami Herald and all her other activities. I'm just saying, before making any claims about her being passed over by MSNBC you may want to talk to the woman first and ask her what she wants to do instead of making guesses with no evidence to support. It's not a good look for your blog.

  • Yes I totally agree with that and respect her privacy and I am sure on her time we hear from her.BUT it is good that this information is open and available for my village it just confirms that people are watching MSNBC | December 23, 2013 9:30 AM

    So Ed do you think that Joy is not physically beautiful because she is the real color of who she is.

  • Nanton | December 21, 2013 4:31 PM

    Thank you Amari, Joy wears many different hats, and probably is very happy pinch hitting for the regulars, which btw she is excellent at doing. I am a big fan of hers. Sometimes we are too quick to look at things through that foggy lens of racism.
    Frankly I like her versatility, but will set my DVR if she had her own show.

  • SAMI | December 21, 2013 1:13 PM

    Exactly Amari, my thoughts exactly, too many assumptions.

  • SAMI | December 21, 2013 1:08 PM

    JoyAnn Reid is a Harvard graduate with a lot of skills and many irons in the fire. She doesn't have time for much more, people. She is involved in doing a lot! Perhaps her guest stints on the various MSNBC shows are all she has time for. In the early days when she lived in my neighborhood, we became FB friends and since she moved to NY and doing the guest stints on air, I hardly see her blogs, till now it seems to have vanished. Clearly she doesn't have time. Does she want it ? You don't know that. She is also a mother of growing kids who she may want to spend time with instead of stretching herself more thinly than she currently does. She even had to shelve her famous and award winning "The Reid Report" political blog, which is full of political facts and up to date commentary. I used to look forward to reading it daily, now it hasn't been updated in awhile. Before we conclude this is due to her being a woman of colour, please know the facts before rushing to judgement. It's ok to guess, but writing as foregone conclusion is just wrong. Not everything as perceived is a slight due to our race people.

  • Nah | December 21, 2013 4:43 AM

    Back the f*** up with all that bulls***, son.

  • other song | December 21, 2013 12:48 AM

    good point Amari

  • sergio | December 20, 2013 10:08 PM

    "It's not a good look for your blog"

    Where in bloody hell have you been? When has anything we ever done been a "good look"? And especially by me.

  • scripttease | December 20, 2013 9:23 PMReply

    THIS IS OUR STORY..........

  • Daryl | December 20, 2013 8:06 PMReply

    Another example of why we as black people should do more for self and build each other else up. The way the system is designed now they will never take us serious. The only way you get respect is when people know you don't need them until then we will keep hearing these same stories over and over and look for gratification from people that look down on us, which is crazy, but too many of us keep going this route and then get upset when it turn out like the way you knew it was from the start.

  • Denise | December 22, 2013 7:59 PM

    Joy and I have been besties since the 90s. Joy is a go getter and has no problem shining her light wherever she goes. Whatever direction she takes it will be her choice. Joy is one of the brightest honest people I know. She has knowledge on every subject and is a well rounded human being. The greatest quality about Joy is she has positive moral character, always willing to learn more and share what she knows. She is a devoted wife to her husband Jason and she instills these same values in her children. So whatever she decides or whatever comes her way, it will come at the right time.

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