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Steve McQueen Speaks Out On "Shame" Oscar Snub

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by Sergio
February 21, 2012 4:54 PM
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Shame director Steve McQueen is not happy wth the Oscars voters and in particular the fact that lead actor Michael Fassbender was not nominated for his lead role in the film. But McQueen says that because we're scaredy cats (But of course don't we all know that?)

According to McQueen: "In America they're too afraid of sex, that's why he wasn't nominated. if you look at the Best Actor list, you're saying 'Michael Fassbender isn't on the list'?'

And he went on "It's kind of crazy, but that's how it is. It's an American award, so let them have it."

Actually it was pretty obvious that Fassbender was never going to get an nomination from the beginning because of the controversial nature of the movie. .And if there's one thing Oscar voters DON'T like it's controversy.  

I mean we're prudes here unlike them sex orgy luvin' furriners.

(Pardon me while I move to France)

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54 Comments

  • Donella | February 22, 2012 12:05 PMReply

    It says a lot for McQueen that he was more concerned for his leading actor than for himself as director. Fassbender is usually the best part of any movie he's in. Maybe either McQueen or Fassbender will achieve a "delayed" or "make up" Oscar for 12 Years a Slave.

  • Torri | February 22, 2012 11:25 AMReply

    I wasn't surprised by the snub. It was a great performance and deserved to be recognized, but the Academy is afraid of controversy, real or imagined. www.thelettersproject.org

  • Laura | February 22, 2012 8:35 AMReply

    What is up. I am having problem posting.

  • Jug | February 22, 2012 7:42 PM

    @Nadine-Ive been playing around with it. Seems that if you use quotations & apostrophes a lot, guilty as charged, it flags you. How ironic that good grammar & punctuation is now bad. Lord this new world we're in.

  • Nadine | February 22, 2012 11:31 AM

    I think one has to be conservative with punctuation and CAPS, just a guess. I've been finding it easier to post with fewer uses of "...", etc. Not sure why.

  • Micah | February 22, 2012 10:41 AM

    Seriously the problems posting are driving me up the wall.

  • Laura | February 22, 2012 8:46 AM

    (CONT.) Now I believe the Academy should created a new category called "Ride or Die". What is that, you may ask? The "Ride or Die" award is an award shared by an actor and director for a screen performance in which the actor totally gives it up. A "balls to the wall" performance, akin to what DeNiro did for Scorsese in "Raging Bull". For that award, McQueen/Fassbender should be nominated.

  • Laura | February 22, 2012 8:39 AM

    I watched and enjoyed Shame and Fassbender performance was very good. However, I felt that Michael Shannon performance in Shelter also very good. That film was completely slept on. (TO BE CONT.)

  • wordblaze | February 22, 2012 12:57 AMReply

    Wait. Did no one see Matthias Schoenaerts in 'Bullhead'!? BEST performance by a male actor PERIOD. Blew me away! Now THAT was a snub. At least the film was nominated. A phenomenal piece of storytelling.

  • Jug | February 22, 2012 1:50 PM

    I heard of it but never saw it. Have to admit, I've been going the easy (& cheaper) route & waiting for screeners & screenings LOL Didn't see it.

  • CareyCarey | February 22, 2012 1:57 AM

    @Wordblaze, I 've been off the scene so I am not ashamed to say I've never heard of Bullhead nor Matthias. However, when someone shows the passion that you have, I have to hear more. I could google it but I doubt scripted "press" could do a better job than you. Now, if wordblaze does not come back, Jug, Bondgirl, anyone?

  • Oscarsometimessucksandsometimesnot | February 22, 2012 12:35 AMReply

    Forget about the subject of this article. I found misspellings here that should be discussed.

    Accotrding: According
    wasnlt: Wasn't or Was Not.

  • jingmei | February 21, 2012 9:53 PMReply

    Yeah Oscar is just the American mainstream.

  • Laura | February 21, 2012 7:46 PMReply

    Hey what's up with this posting stuff. I can't get anything out there with indie wire calling it spam. Do I have respond in abbreviated text code to get stuff said. Like: wtf, sup w indiewire, ne1, some1 nos cuz idk?

  • Miles Ellison | February 21, 2012 7:44 PMReply

    This probably has less to do with the content of the film and more to do with the fact that Oscar voters can't tell good movies from bad ones. After all, these are the same people who gave Forrest Gump a Best Picture award in the same year that The Shawshank Redemption, Quiz Show, and Pulp Fiction came out.

  • Neziah | February 22, 2012 11:39 AM

    CareyCarey, my choice for the best picture of 1994 is "Satantango". In regards to "Shame", I really don't think it matters if people think it got snubbed or not. When was the last time a film by a black filmmaker was rightfully praised by the Academy? They ignored us when we released "Malcolm X", they ignored us when we released "Bush Mama", they ignored us when we released "Soleil O", they ignored us when we released "Den Muso", and the list goes on and on. Even if they gave "Shame" the due most people thinks it deserves, it would be an ironic contradiction, and a make-up Oscar more than anything else. What Hollywood is too shameful to admit is that they don't want to give the Best Director Oscar to a black filmmaker, yet they have no problem giving out Best Actor Oscars despite all this. The hypocrisy is STUNNING.

  • Micah | February 22, 2012 10:14 AM

    Don't get me wrong, I enjoy sentimental claptrap as much as the next moviegoer but Miles you are absolutely right on the money about The Shawshank Redemption, Quiz Show, and Pulp Fiction being better than Forrest Gump. That's not even a putdown on Forrest Gump.

  • CareyCarey | February 22, 2012 2:15 AM

    Well Neziah, the begging questions are... what was your choice in 1994 and did Shame get the snub job? What challenged you in 1994 and 2012? You're on the clock... tick tick tick...

  • Neziah | February 22, 2012 2:00 AM

    Forrest Gump was a very good movie (loved it as a kid), but it's the the type of formulaic and manipulative Oscar bait film that comes out nearly every year. It's certainly not the best picture of 1994. I prefer more challenging movies.

  • QUENTIN | February 22, 2012 12:33 AM

    Forrest Gump was the Best Picture of 1994 on all levels. I love Shawshank, and enjoy Pulp Fiction, which took me a few viewings and maturity to actually appreciate it. But I fell in love with Gump at first sight and I still feel emotionally engaged to the film even today when I view it for the 3000th time. And like CAREYCAREY rightfully said, I forgot about Quiz Show. I couldn't tell you much about it.

  • CareyCarey | February 21, 2012 7:56 PM

    Come on Miles, I don't know about that. Forrest Gump was an excellent movie. Many people loved Pulp Fiction but many others hated it. And Quiz Show was for a select crowd. You would be hard pressed to find 2 out of every 10 people who can remember anything about that movie. Now, the actors in Shawshank vs Gump = Gump in a landslide.

  • Jug | February 21, 2012 7:40 PMReply

    The Academy doesn't do is "Change". Look at the nominees this year? The roles are pretty standard, time tested archetypes-some would say stereotypes-another discussion for another day. Andy Serkis should have been nominated for Best Actor, his depth of humanity & physicality, aided by what amounts to 21st Century Mask work, was stunning. But since his character was technically an animal & it was a big budget "popcorn" film, they dismissed it. Maybe if SHAME was silent & in B&W, they'd get some run LOL

  • Nadine | February 23, 2012 8:24 AM

    Had to jump in folks... @JUG I shamefully checked out your link to CAREY - I saw Ratner's name and had to look. "The L.A. Times did a study that found Oscar voters are 94 percent white, 74  percent male, with a median age of 62.?" - HR, is what I think was your point for those who didn't follow the link.

  • Jug | February 22, 2012 1:59 PM

    @Carey-File this under "No Shit Sherlock" hollywoodreporter.com/news/oscars-2012-dawn-hudson-brett-ratner-293537

  • CareyCarey | February 21, 2012 8:59 PM

    *Big Smile* nawl man, Jug you know you the man, but I can't assist in making a poor hustler out of you. I gotta pull your coat when you get lazy. Look, you and my girl Bondgirl need a dose of a spirited challenge err'once in a while. You 2 can be too tuff to handle.

  • Jug | February 21, 2012 8:29 PM

    Sigh, Damnit Carey! Why you gotta spoil my parade with logic & errthang?! LOL Good point. Sometimes, even unjustly, I expect more.

  • CareyCarey | February 21, 2012 8:16 PM

    What'sup man. Change? I believe the Academy is a reflection of society at large. They have a title (like most of us) but they are simply humans.Real change seldom happens for most men. Besides, most film goers knows little nor cares what constitutes a great acting performance. If it moves them emotionally and they can relate to the character... they like it, period.

  • Nia | February 21, 2012 7:07 PMReply

    I'm really disappointed it wasn't even nominated. It deserved to win or at least have a chance. I hope McQueen continues pushing the envelope and putting out more great work like this. He deserves any praise that comes his way.

  • sandra | February 21, 2012 6:35 PMReply

    It saddens me that Mr. McQueen cares about the Oscars. I care about the Oscars as much as I do the BET awards. Also, how could McQueen expect any love from the "big boys" so soon after his "outburst". Hell, they probably have him pegged as a "Spike Lee type" . TP will get a nom before McQueen.

  • Laura | February 21, 2012 7:39 PM

    Prolly true that he's been labeled a "Spike Lee type" and TP.

  • CareyCarey | February 21, 2012 5:09 PMReply

    Snub?! No snub, S & A had it wrong from the jump. Fools rush in where wise me tread not. That's right, some of the S & A crew was all up in Shame's behind, while waving pom-pom inviting others to take a walk on the wild side. Sergio, he who laughs last laughs best.

  • Micah | February 26, 2012 2:06 PM

    And CareyCarey one last thing, point out one half baked solution that I put forth in my comments. You won't be able to because I simply highlighted how you have nothing to add of much depth to the discussion about the contents of a film you haven't seen.

  • Micah | February 26, 2012 1:54 PM

    As for how a critically praised film by a critically praised black director which features a critically praised black actress is beneficial for black cinema, does that really need to be explained? I ask this especially in light of the fact that Steve Mcqueen is using his growing clout to get one of the most important but overlooked accounts of the slavery of african americans brought to the big screen. He's doing this with big names on top of that! It is a tale where the black man is the hero because of his intelligence, determination and strength of character. It's actually told in his voice.

  • Micah | February 26, 2012 1:41 PM

    I apologize. I did misread one word. I have been on the road reading S&A on a small phone in the car. That was the only time I "misquoted". When you say other you are either lying or confused. None of this however negates my point. Since you have not seen the film you can't comment with any authority or validity on any of the aspects of the film especially when it concerns the performance of Micheal Fassbender. Anyone who has seen the film can easily tell that the many assumptions you stated in your comments are inaccurate. Next, why instead of civilly discussing a topic do you feel the need for personal attacks on people you do not know based on things you do not know? Attacking how you think I attained my education each time instead of addressing the topic suggests you are insecure about your own, resentful or are not confident enough in your argument and need to distract everyone. The tactic is not working. What is more, look up the definitions for whimsical and ambiguous then us tell how they apply to my serious and straightforward comment. Randomly picking words you've heard but don't know the meaning of and throwing them in a sentence does not help your case.

  • CareyCarey | February 23, 2012 3:29 PM

    My friend Micah, you've continued to flip the script and it is not working. Listen, your parents may have paid for your education but some of that money should have went toward a good pair of glasses. Look there and you will find it fair, my words are pom poms, meaning they were cheering on a movie with an NC-17 rating and no black faces to speak of, while blistering The Help. Listen young man, The Help featured many black face and oscar worthy performances, but noooo, they somehow seem to miss that point. Now tell me, what did Shame do for you, I or black cinema as a whole? And tell me, what has the black director done for the movement? My point? I did not have to see the movie to object to its content nor the hypocritical approach I saw occurring on this site. So again, your whimsical ambiguous defense was nothing more than purple prose to me. Your argument was filled with half-baked solutions, let alone numerous mis-quotes. So again, miss me with the teaching lesson. Save that for those who are easily swayed and easily convinced that you're spreading facts. I am not the one. Pom pom away but I am not following.

  • Micah | February 23, 2012 11:14 AM

    Your words "porn-porn". Look above. My comparison is perfect if you have not seen the film. Many of the critics of the Help rallied against without seeing it. As for why the film was promoted on the site, do you really think it was because it was "porn-porn"? If writing in a thoughtful manner using the vocabulary that a high schooler should be able to easily grasp is now purple prose, the educational system is truly failing. My ancestors fought hard so I could learn to read and write with some amount of proficiency. I honor them by doing so.

  • CareyCarey | February 23, 2012 10:51 AM

    @Micah my good man, you used the word condemn. I believe i have defined all my concerns regarding Shame. It is unjust of you to compare my concerns of Shame with the myriad of Help comments. There is no fondation for a comparison. Porn? I have said the character is a perfert. The film received a NC-17 rating. If you are going to quote me or paraphrase my words, try to do it right. How would you define Beharies character? I mean please, social pathologies and complex drama? yeah right, and that is why this film was heavily promoted on this site? Ding Dong the witch is dead. save that for the wizard of oz and those who adore being hoodwinked by purple prose.

  • Micah | February 23, 2012 10:34 AM

    Mischaracterizing a role in a film is unfair. The Fassbender character is never romanticized in the film and Beharie is not just this little victim. Complex dramas on social pathologies deserve a little more thought. It's not different from campaigning against the Help just because it has a black maid in it when you have not seen it.

  • Micah | February 23, 2012 10:33 AM

    The flaw in criticizing films you haven't seen is that you get the details wrong and the details are important. Campaigning against a film because of feelings based on hearsay is an exercise fraught with folly. I can understand not seeing it or expressing reservations about it but condemning it as porn is a step to far.

  • Micah | February 23, 2012 10:31 AM

    So you haven't seen the film. Now you sound like some critics of the Help.

  • CareyCarey | February 23, 2012 10:09 AM

    @Nadine, Bondgirl is a much better writer than I but here is my take. She and I was on the left, the entire staff and most visitors were on the hypocrite fence. The message here is to promote black cinema and positive images in black cinema. Well, there is none in Shame. Promote positive subject matters. Shame was about a white pervert. Promote black actors. The director of Shame has used only 1 in his last 2 movies and she had a flash-through role and she was essentially another victim. I would define her as black bait. The fortress screamed bloody murder over the roles of maids and such but this movie got a pass. Short list!

  • Nadine | February 23, 2012 8:25 AM

    @CAREYCAREY - When I first posted I had no idea about the fortress. 50 plus comments? Sounds like a must read.

  • CareyCarey | February 23, 2012 3:41 AM

    "comments" my man, IS the optimum word : D

  • Micah | February 23, 2012 12:37 AM

    Or we could keep it simple and straightforward and you could just say yes or no. That would put your comment in proper context. Unless you don't want it in proper context. : D

  • CareyCarey | February 22, 2012 6:15 PM

    Micah, don't get me started. I'll tell you what, read the 50 plus comments I posted on Shame. Big SMILE

  • Micah | February 22, 2012 10:15 AM

    Careycarey, did you even see Shame?

  • CareyCarey | February 21, 2012 11:35 PM

    Nadine Nadine, let me shake your hand and give you a hug. I see why S & A banned you LMBAO. Yes sir, I believe you are the first person (the I witnessed) who said anything near your comments on the movie Shame. You do know that this was a Shame fortress?

  • Nadine | February 21, 2012 9:54 PM

    Ah, ADM. I saw it as a screening and my guests and I were somewhat perplexed. Love Knightley, but she had reached a level of "annoying" for me that I had not experienced in a while. Sorry that movie, and Fass, didn't do it for me although he was the best by far...I could barely get through through that thing.

  • BONDGIRL | February 21, 2012 8:00 PM

    Whoa, nelly. McQueen cost Fassbender an Oscar nom? So why was he not nominated for ADM, even though his performance was lauded? The Oscars are an industry event, and people tend to forget that...it is not the People's Choice Awards. Scorsese JUST got an Oscar 5 years ago, and he is VERY opinionated too. I cannot say more with this wacky system.

  • Nadine | February 21, 2012 6:46 PM

    The punctuation is what is restricting people I think. Oh, Isaiah Washington is the only other actor, if we think outside of McQueen's vision, that I believe could have played the part well. I'm out.

  • Nadine | February 21, 2012 6:43 PM

    CC, we come full circle! Back to Shame again. I knew the second McQueen opened his boca in that "Directors" vid, he and Fass were in trouble. McQ made some real interesting choices in terms of directing that were fresh with a NY that I recognized in film, for once. A nomination for best director, without the win I think would have been justified.

  • Nadine | February 21, 2012 6:37 PM

    I couldn't think of one actor, including Clooney and Pitt, who could've pulled off what Fassbender did, but could have imagined countless men to star in the Descendants or Moneyball & Tree of Life.

  • Nadine | February 21, 2012 6:36 PM

    I can't even post 3 lines.

  • Sergio | February 21, 2012 5:54 PM

    I still like the film very much (I've seen it twice) and its subject matter was always going to make it a tough sell here in the States. It's more a foreign film anyway in style, subject and tone.

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