Tyler Perry On Why Hollywood Lacks Roles For Black Actresses (OWN 'Next Chapter' Preview)

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by Tambay A. Obenson
May 23, 2013 5:06 PM
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Ahead of next week's premieres of the two new Tyler Perry serials on OWN - the one-hour ensemble drama The Haves and the Have Nots, which is set to premiere on Tuesday, May 28 at 9 pm ET/PT, in a 2-hour pilot, and the sitcom Love Thy Neighbor, which will premiere on Wednesday, May 29 at 9 pm ET/PT - the network will air some special event programming; specifically, this Sunday, May 26, Oprah Winfrey will sit down with Perry for what the press release calls "an intimate in-depth interview" on a special Oprah's Next Chapter at 9 pm ET/PT. 

It will be immediately followed at 10 pm ET/PT by Tyler Perry Comes to OWN: Behind The Scenes, said to be an exclusive inside look at the making of his two new series.

Below you'll find 2 previews of Sunday night's sit-down with Oprah on Next Chapter, in which Perry shares his thoughts on the lack of work for black actresses in Hollywood. And in the second video, Oprah asks him to address his critics, which he does.


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  • Tim Holloway | May 30, 2013 2:52 AMReply

    @CareyCarey>

    Your life story is very interesting, indeed. Thank you for sharing it and of course I'm happy to start over. Our dialogue has really made me think about this topic more these past few days.

  • Dazz | July 11, 2013 10:13 AM

    Funny how black women struggle to find a black husband. If they only realize that the system was designed to work against black males. They make it to the top only because corporate white Amerikkka lets then thus leaving behind the black male. Have they ever stopped to ask,What are these mega churches doing for the black society? Let them build black corporations with the $500 million they obtained over the last decade. They could single handedly end black oppression. Or we could continue to follow this white European way of living that was not meant for us.

  • CareyCarey | May 30, 2013 9:41 AM

    Thanks Tim,

    Your comment gave me a serendipitous reward. Yesterday you were the center of a discussion (in the back lot). Someone mentioned that they thought you were really concerned and passionate about the state of black movies. They also asked me to look at my part in our "disagreement". Of course we discussed all the points of contention, but I have to accept my culpability. So I told them a little story.

    As a drug counselor/group facilitator/moderator, one of my classes was titled "Cultural Diversity". It was a mix of black substance abusers (alcohol & drugs) and those in different stages of the court system, ages 18-65, male & females. I was working in a "white" system (treatment center), so the class parallels many of our concerns here at S&A (How do we fit in in a business/problem/society which has not shown the most love for us).

    OH BOY, as the head of this class I had to pull out ALL my weapons because the phrase "we are not a monolitic group" does not do justice to the individuals I was working with. Basically, they were a diverse group who were set in their ways. In short, they were very resistant to "change". Consequently, on a daily basis I had to convince/persuade/ suggest they look at "the problem" from the inside out.

    It was no simple task trying to convince black ex-cons, drug dealers, young thugs, drug users, babies mommas, prostitutes, professionals (i.e., lawyers, college students, dentists, nurses, blue collar Joe, DUI Dan, housewives, etc.) **all black** that their "thinking" was the biggest problem.

    They were protecting (entrenched in) their "positions" and WERE NOT trying to hear ANYTHING about them being "wrong". More importantly, whatever they were doing and saying, it was my job to show them, or convince them, it WAS NOT WORKING. In short, on a regular basis (by any means necessary) I had to roll up my sleeves, jack-up my slacks and break-it-on-down. Man, sometimes we almost went to blows.... but they loved it. Later, after a class or on the streets, many would tell me I hurt, ridiculed and embarrassed them, but they needed to hear all the tough love I laid at their feet... and they needed to hear it from a black man.

  • chanez | May 29, 2013 5:47 AMReply

    i think tyler perry is also forgetting the stereo-typical effect.as long as people like him continue to make movies of black women in the stereo-typical way,black actresses will not be seen anymore than that.Thats why 9 out 10 time when you see a black actress,her character is always along that line.I get what tyler is saying but also what could be added to this problem is that writer like him should tell stories that include black women not as black women but as women period.They should create the same type of movies white people makes,just include some black actresses...sorta like several black actor do(denzel,samuel).Stop with these stereo-typical roles tyler and other directors/writers..its their fault mostly.plus since the bulk of work for black actresses are these types of roles, a lot of these black actresses coming up always think that these types of roles are the roles of a lifetime thus keeping them in a limited space,instead of fighting to stand out and realizing there is much more quality out there to fight for.

  • CareyCarey | May 27, 2013 10:13 PMReply

    Tim, since we've completely kidnapped this thread, I thought it best that I start from the top.

    Okay, since it seems as if we've started off on the wrong foot, I think it's time I share a little of my story.

    I have visited every state in the United States and several overseas countries. I served 4 years in the US Air force. I've been locked up for bank robbery and thus touched the cold steel of bars surrounding me. I've drank wine in the jungles of Thailand and tapped my feet at the Apollo Theater. I've also tried my hand at being a stand-up comedian. I've had 3 great love affairs, and I am now a widowed black man in America (now in a committed relationship). I've been a little league baseball coach and I am presently a guest columnist for a local newspaper. I've been robbed in Dayton Ohio, ripped off in Minneapolis Minn, and attended the Essence Music Festival in New Orleans. I've been shot, and I've shot at others. Death has visited my house in many forms. I've dangled my feet from the balcony of a theater at the Teluride Film Festival, and in the waters of the Atlantic and Pacific oceans. I've literally held 7ooo volts in my hands, and I've held the hands of my 3 children. I love to laugh and love to eat soul food. My great uncle is the infamous "Kingfish" from the old Amos & Andy TV series. There's pain and struggle, love and hope in my story, but I am never bitter, seldom angry and never bored. And, as I've said many times, one of my biggest passions revolves around conversations on movies. But let me continue. I do not have money concerns... my house, car and cloths are all paid for, so I have a peace of mind that I believe many would die for. I harbor no contempt for white folks. However, I don't hang nor socialize with them if I don't have to. Reason being, the majority of them do not enjoy what I enjoy, like what I like, love who I love, talk like me, love the movies I love most, look like me, love the music I love, share my memories, pain & struggles, etc.

    So now I find myself talking to you, who I believed was a very young man who was out to tackle the world. Oh, I forgot to mention that I've worked with under-privileged youth, ex-cons and substance abusers. Anyway, since I've experienced life from various perspectives, when I see a young man stepping in the wrong path, I am inclined to say a few words that may give him reason to pause. How does that pertain to you?

    Well, we met here at S&A. It's a place of many faces. For me, it's a source of entertainment. However, many dropped by for various reasons. Some promote their products, while others give advice on different occupations within the film-making industry. Some even stop-by with the sole purpose of reading the comments. Then, of course there are those who simply enjoy engaging in conversations (on movies in all it's glory) with people who look and talk and "act", just like them.

  • CareyCarey | May 27, 2013 10:12 PMReply

    You Tim, you came through the door saying "I presented some commentary on my forum about a similar topic that I think may be relevant...". In essence, you were inviting people to your house/spot/den/blog. You even posted a link--> To read more and see the responses please visit http://peril.forumotion.com/

    Okay, you're not the first to do that so I read what you had to say. Well, after reading your overly-generalized (and yes "porous") statements, the old school mentor popped out of me. I thought to myself... "this kid is inviting people to his house, but his meal is under-cooked and he's serving Cisco, MD 20-20, Thunderbird and Wild Irish Rose - and thinks it's cognac.

    I know, those are harsh words that do not make you feel good, but that's the point of my conversations with you. Listen, although you do not appreciate the value in "controversy" and drama, I have to point out that NOTHING changes without some form of controversy or drama. Think about it, if everyone is agreeing with everything that's said, there's a whole lotta lying going on. And we all know you can't trust a liar. I don't care if it's a love affair, business transaction or a church meeting, there will (and should be) controversy. If not, nothing moves. People will laugh, smile, agree and slap each others backs, but nothing significant will change without controversy. If you like calling it drama, have at it. However, I am reminded of a song by the OJays. It's called BACK STABBERS. A poignant line: "They smile in your face... all the time they wanna take you place - the back stabbers. Blades are long, clenched tight in their fist, aimin' straight at your back and I don't think they'll miss. (They smile in your face) smiling faces... smiling faces sometimes tell lies (Back stabbers).

    So I was sitting here thinking how could I help a young guy become a better hustler, a better communicator and a wise old man. Well, from my perspective and experiences in life, lying to a person never works... it's just a band-aid. So I thought you needed a hot shot (i.e. sarcasm, ridicule, laughter, baiting, poking and prodding, etc) I tried (but obviously failed) to persuade you to take a deeper look into what you were asking people to "buy". I thought I could shake, rattle and roll you into at least considering some of the feedback ( I did want you to step in the road at a later time, and get run over by a bigger force than I... which could break your spirit). Granted, my style is aggressive and confrontational, but in my defense, I only use that tactic on visitors who I believe are moving a "misleading" agenda or those who push at me, and thus, I push back. Hey, I've had wonderful conversations with many visitors here at S&A, who I believe are the best and brightest minds to have visited S&A, yet we don't seem to wallow in dog fights. So I hope you understand why I question your characterization of me... and why you seem to resist and/or poo-poo suggestions (and feedback) given to you by me and other very wise commenters? And please, if you take nothing of importance from my words, please take note that the guy who goes by "Carl" is not your friend. I mean, unless you enjoy being around the type of individual who brings no knowledge to any discussion, befriend him. If not, run from him - as if he's the plague. Because, I've been told (by a very wise man) if you talk to a fool long enough, there will soon be two fools talking... and saying nothing anyone can use - today, tomorrow... nor never.

    My hand is extended in your direction. Maybe we can start over?

  • TAZ | May 27, 2013 5:22 PMReply

    Oh, boy. What an interesting tale we have weaved.

    @Tim - Although I understand your passion and I get a somewhat good feel from you, I have to say that careful consideration is needed when in the midst of an 'discussion.'
    You said, "It always amazed me how the Jewish, Gay and Lesbian, Asian, Latino, and countless other communities can come together and we struggle to do the same. Instead, some would rather ignore the issue and focus on pulling down others."

    This was okay in the discussion because the level of discussion was on ideas/solutions that was out there. However, Tim, in reading these words, I ask that you examine your part in the struggle. Your last post resulted to getting personal and name calling. Why was that? (no need to answer me...I am just posing the question for quiet inner reflection) Why did you not realize you were conversing with an elder from the very beginning? You took offense to the term 'Young Man' - and outside the reference that he was there in the Civil Rights movement....the moment you read it, you should have been able to put all into context. (I believe you did not have full realization is because you called it dismissive) And better yet, as soon as you realized it, you should have used the manners that were instilled, but did not.

    Unfortunately, these things did not occur....and now the posts you have exchanged with CareyCarey have invited truly nasty posts. In other words, the devil was given a foothold, if I may be so bold, and he let himself in.

    If my post is not the last one for this topic, I pray that the last one I see is a different one from you.

    Who am I to say these things? I am a beautiful black woman who loves her peeps - stereotypes and all - with a reminder that the way to end the struggle Black folks have with each other, is start with self. Every argument has two participants.

    If you show me an argument with one participant, it will be with you on one side of the padded door and I on the other side talking to a Dr. :)

  • Tim Holloway | May 26, 2013 10:20 PMReply

    @CareyCarey>

    Sarcasm is a tool of a weak argument, which by the way I'm not going to be baited into. Terms like "young man" "delusion" "porous rhetoric" and etc. are foul attempts to be dismissive. There lies a big part of the problems we (blacks) face on many issues. Your voice shouldn't be the only one heard since this topic affects all of us.

    If your concern on this issue is genuine, perhaps you could benefit from practicing a little diplomacy when addressing posts on this topic and others. You're not helping to solve the problem by being condescending or attacking an opposing point of view.

    My points stand and are not validated nor discredited by your input. They're simple my views and I'm entitled to them just as you are entitled to yours. I may not agree with you, but I'm at least willing to hear you out, without "controversy." That's called respect. If we practiced more of it maybe, just maybe we can solve the problems we face together.

    Lighten up already!

  • Carl | May 27, 2013 3:20 PM

    @TIM

    "clearly your presence on this board is to troll around looking for an argument with anyone who will entertain you."

    And there you have it my friend. Don't waste another keystroke on this old, useless, lonely fucking coon of a black man. Trolling is all he does, has done and will ever do on this blog because he has NOTHING else to offer due to his lack of brain power. He is a stupid fuck.

    Stop wasting your time typing to him. Trust me.

  • Tim Holloway | May 27, 2013 2:48 PM

    Victim? You are laughable. You call me a "young man" when it is you who displays the maturity of a five year old (and btw that's an insult to five years olds). I'm CHOOSING to stand down, because clearly your presence on this board is to troll around looking for an argument with anyone who will entertain you. During our brief dialogue I have determined that your issue appears to be that you're a bitter, angry, uninformed individual with too much time on your hands. By your own admission you have some hostility against white people and have no interest in contributing to a solution on this topic. The only thing you have offered is profanity, insults, and a propensity for "controversy", which equals DRAMA. Sorry, that's not my thing. As an "older man" I would think that you would have gained some wisdom during your time on this Earth, but not knowing the obvious troubles your enduring I can't help you. However, I will pray for you.

    My suggestion, seek help immediately to deal with your issues. I wish you the best.

  • CC | May 27, 2013 1:30 AM

    Diplomacy? Yeeeeaaahhh, riiiiiiight. So now you've resorted to playing the role of the victim. Okay, I get it, instead of waving the white flag (because you knew you had the weakest argument) now you're schooling me on the proper terms of engagement.

    Geez, next you'll be telling the teacher I called you a N****r.

    Btw, I called you a young man because it's obvious you have not lived long enough to have experienced those people, places and things that will do you if you're not very careful. Listen, it's great to have high-hopes and trust in your fellow man, but experience will be your best teacher.

  • JEFTCG | May 26, 2013 10:18 PMReply

    When will TP just reboot his whole Madea series starring Oprah Winfrey as Madea? This seems to me to be a no-brainer. She loves him, he loves her, she wants to act, he wants to direct "serious" actors, Madea needs some "legitimacy". What's the problem?

  • Tim Holloway | May 26, 2013 9:14 PMReply

    @Truer Than Thou>

    You stated...
    @CC, yep it's a cop out. Continue to call it like you see it.

    My response...

    Cop out? I'm really trying to understand what realm of reality you and CareyCarey are living in. But, I'll try to address the points you made which were clearly directed at my post.

    You stated...
    1. The general public don't need to demand anything. Revisit your marketing (have something worthy of marketing) and market it to your audience. Stop lumping Black viewers into one pool. Your audience may include Black people, but the target will NEVER be all of them. Let go of that crutch.

    My response...
    I disagree, we do need to demand a change. Are you really comfortable with the normal depictions of blacks in media being gang bangers, drug dealers, womanizers, dead beat dads, bitter black women, under achievers, illiterate miscreants, thugs, the sassy best friend, male who***(rhymes with scores), cheaters, sidekicks and the lowest common denominator? Rarely if ever the hero, the genius, problem solver, leading man/woman, secrete agent, etc.

    I agree that appealing to your market is important and I never suggested we "lump black viewers into one pool." There I think you missed my point. I'll clarify, just as Affirmative Action was and Equal Opportunity is important there needs to be an effort to equalize the balance of power in film and television. That's not a "crutch" it's symmetry. It's a belief and practice that's permeated throughout all of society, because we (Americans) realize that without it the "haves" will always exclude the "have nots." If you had an unfair advantage which gained you billions of dollars would you willingly level the playing field? No. Our country's foundation stands on the notion that all are created equal and should have equal opportunities to succeed, a.k.a "The American Dream."

    You stated...
    2. I'm tired of hearing people say we need to work together and create more opportunities. People are doing that, and the people who they are doing it for ARE NOT SHOWING UP. There are so many initiatives and programs big and small focusing on this very group but the participation is embarrassingly low or zero. Just take this blog for example. How many times have the writers here published posts with ideas to implement, or surveys, or requests for responses, videos etc? And the turn out is low or you never hear about a follow up because there is nothing to follow up on. Low participation. So many people talk about we should build our own studio when they are not even using the resources already set in place.
    We can't and shouldn't expect other people to care about Black images, if the very artists who supposedly want to make them aren't doing all they can."}

    My response...
    Here I agree with MOST of your assessment barring the last sentence. Typically we (blacks) don't "show up." But the question is why not? Are we lazy, have we lost hope, do lack focus, OR are we ignorant to the importance of knowing how the system works and why we should participate? It was and maybe still is widely held that blacks don't vote, yet when President Barak Obama ran we turned that notion on its head––twice.

    You stated...
    3. There have been and will continue to be so many discussions about Hollywood and getting over the producers etc. It's just a cover to mask the real issues. We've already established that Hollywood is not a sure ticket. Now let's talk about what we have control of and stop the blame game used as a distraction. Maybe more people do not commit or work together on anything on a grander scale because they secretly think they are the "it" factor and hollywood just hasn't discovered them yet.... Maybe....

    My response...
    Let me be clear here, mainstream media and entertainment plays a significant role in how society views us (blacks). It also on some level influences what we think about ourselves, especially our youth. Oprah Winfrey said it twice, first to Diana Ross when she said that she never knew growing up that black women could be that successful or considered beautiful until she saw her on television and on the cover of Ebony Magazine. The second time was to Mary Tyler Moore, when she (Oprah) said that she as a young girl never thought that there could be successful women journalist. According to Oprah, these two women literally changed the trajectory of her life. Surely you don't believe we (blacks) can afford to let a medium as powerful as film and television define who we are without so much as a peep and "focus on what we do have control of" (which is what exactly?). No one is playing a "blame game" however we do need to get our heads out of the sand and at least speak up. If not we're facing another fifties years of this mess, waiting for the next MLK to give us guidance.

    You stated...
    Our wounds can heal if we realize we're shot and go to the ER.

    My response...
    Some wounds doctors can't even heal, but avoiding the bullet from the start is preventative medicine. When you know better you do better––rendering "healing" moot.

  • CareyCarey | May 27, 2013 10:25 AM

    "Many people talk and some create executable solutions"

    That just about wraps-up this entire discussion. In fact, your entire comment in tandem with Tambay's "Eventually, You Come To Realize & Make Peace With The Fact That They Don't Care About You..." should be required reading.

    Highlight: " How many times do we have to have conversations like this before we devise solutions that people actually commit to? Do people just like to talk about the problems and wait for people to agree because it makes them feel like they're a part of something special?"

    YES! YES! YES! Talk-Talk-Talking makes many feel like____________________<--fill in the blank.

    I am reminded of the word "Diplomacy". That word is frequently used as a tool of the oppressor. In his mind he's thinking "I have mine and I will do anything in my power to see that YOU do not reap any of it's benefits". However, he (talk-talk-talks) tells the naive, weak and unsuspecting to sit down and wait. He convinces them that a nice and polite round table discussion (diplomacy) is their best tool. Yet, history tells me, since the beginning of time, from the fall of the Roman Empire, through slavery and subsequent wars involving the United States, including the Civil Right Movement, "DIPLOMACY" has been the suckers punch which keeps the unknowing waiting, and waiting, and waiting... and talking, and talking, and talking.

    Good job Truer Than Thou, you have definitely brought the truth up in here.

  • Truer Than Thou | May 27, 2013 2:16 AM

    No one needs to demand anything. You create what's not there if you want it. Can't wait for others. This is entertainment. People go to the movies by choice. Most people go to the movies to escape and experience something else or new. They don't go to the movies to help prove diversity exists in the Black community.

    Affirmative Action in entertainment? Good luck with that one. Above all, the creator cares the most about their content reaching the audience. You can't expect audiences to care as much. This is business.

    Most filmmakers/creators don't show up or participate because they think they're above it. They think they're exclusive. They think they have something that no one else has. They don't want to openly align or profess any dedication to doing whatever it takes (collaboration on a grand scale) to make great black films because they don't want to turn off their oppressors. They believe somewhere somehow they can still get a break. If they hold on a little longer and keep doing their own thing maybe someone in the elite group will accept them.

    You can't mix the civil rights movement with earning equality in entertainment today. Black people were fighting for their lives. The root of injustice is the same but one is viewed to be more important than the other. And rightly so. Good luck trying to convince a viewer that they're of the same urgency.

    Many people talk and some create executable solutions. But then there is a low turn out. Take this blog for example. They're often surveying, asking great questions, and requesting participation for projects that can push Black cinema forward. I'm asking you and anyone else who speaks with similar conviction, what's next? Are you going to speak, and then have someone come right after you and say the same thing? How many times do we have to have conversations like this before we devise solutions that people actually commit to? Do people just like to talk about the problems and wait for people to agree because it makes them feel like they're a part of something special? Is that what's keeping people idle?

    Is it that they don't want to let go of the communal feeling of being oppressed?

  • Tim Holloway | May 26, 2013 12:38 PMReply

    @CAREYCAREY>

    I thought my point was clear, but I'll try to address some of your confusion without the same kind of sarcasm I sensed in your questions.

    1.
    "Who is the general public you're referring to?"

    Is there more than one? Everyone has a stake in this issue. I don't believe that "we blacks" are the only one to see the problem, nor do I believe that "we" should be the only ones to speak out against it. Not to diminish our plight or efforts– we didn't march alone during the Civil Rights Movement. Whites and blacks marched together, because they understood there was a need for change, and together a change was made. I could say the same about the Civil War.

    " If they are black Americans, how do you suggest they demand more diverse content? Are you suggesting they should boycott films, scream and shout, or write their congressman? If they're white Americans, why do you believe they even desire more diverse content? Also, in your vision of "diverse content" what exactly are you referring to?"

    Having an open and intellegent dialogue about the issue would be a start. Communication is key. "Screaming and shouting" is ridiculous (I'm sure you were being sarcastic), and writing a congressman is equally ubsurd, however writing news agencies, studios, producers and etc. about their depictions of blacks may have more of an impact than you give credit for. If it's one thing I've noticed is that big companies and brands may have practices that are frowned upon, but when called out in the open they tend to quickly change their practices fearing the negative impact on their bottom line. Ex. when Tommy Hilfiger was accused of racism he made the necessary changes to protect his brand. When Liz Claiborne said her clothes weren't made to fit blacks and Oprah responded by returning all of her clothes bearing the Claiborne label on her show a change came quickly. Big brands like Walmart, McDonalds, and countless others have corrected inappropriate business practices when called on it. What makes you think major studios won't do the same to protect their brands?

    2.
    "GREAT! Fire up the band... HIP-HIP HOORAY.... but wait, have you read Martin Luther King's speech "The Drum Major Instinct" (it's also on youtube)? Well, I'd suggest you do so. In the interim, how do you propose we work together? I mean, exactly how do we do that? And, who is "we"? Do you see the ambiguities in your statement(s)?"

    I won't even dignify the first part of your statement with a response. As to the rest of it I say use your imagination. "We" doesn't require a definition and the "how do we do that" is not rocket science. If the "we" does and the "how" is we are definitely in trouble.

    3.

    "Shoulda... coulda.... why should they?It's not a notion, facts do not lie. But again, it's a proven fact that blacks spend the majority of their movie dollars on movies they love the most. And, the most important aspect of this entire discussion is... if it does not make money, it does not make sense to those in the entertainment BUSINESS."

    Seriously? Surely you are not suggesting that the black community chooses to only see images of ourselves that are stereotypical. I believe that we choose from what's given. If I presented you two apples, one red and one green to choose from, you'd be eating a red or green apple. Then again you could choose to go hungry. However, if I gave you the option to choose outside of the selection I'm sure you'd be eating STEAK :)

    I'll leave you with this Mr. CareyCarey It always amazed me how the Jewish, Gay and Lesbian, Asian, Latino, and countless other communities can come together and we struggle to do the same. Instead, some would rather ignore the issue and focus on pulling down others. More to the point, your sarcastic and harshly toned response to my attempt to offer some solutions to the problem was uncalled for--please release your claw, I might know away out of this basket.

  • Miles Ellison | May 27, 2013 12:36 AM

    "Seriously? Surely you are not suggesting that the black community chooses to only see images of ourselves that are stereotypical. I believe that we choose from what's given. If I presented you two apples, one red and one green to choose from, you'd be eating a red or green apple. Then again you could choose to go hungry. However, if I gave you the option to choose outside of the selection I'm sure you'd be eating STEAK :)."

    I would point out that this website is all about alternatives to what's being offered. As I've pointed out elsewhere, there are a fair amount of films being made that do not recycle black stereotypes. Medicine for Melancholy and I Will Follow have been raved about on this site. They feature non-stereotypical characters, yet neither was available in wide release. Where was the groundswell of support for these efforts? Would either of these films have made the money that Temptation did if they were released to a wider audience? Love Jones was a film that actually made it into wide release. It was a different, non-stereotypical (that word again) black love story. It only made 12 million. There was a theory put forth that this film's paltry box office was due to widespread bootlegging that was encouraged by the studio because the film didn't hew to the party line in portraying black characters. I think that the explanation is more simple than that. Black people did not support it. Whether you think these films are good, bad, or mediocre, they ARE off the beaten path as far as black characterization is concerned. And black audiences have demonstrated that they won't watch such films in anything close to Tyler Perry numbers.

  • CC | May 26, 2013 8:46 PM

    "Is there more than one? Everyone has a stake in this issue. I don't believe that "we blacks" are the only one to see the problem, nor do I believe that "we" should be the only ones to speak out against it. Not to diminish our plight or efforts€“ we didn't march alone during the Civil Rights Movement. Whites and blacks marched together, because they understood there was a need for change, and together a change was made. I could say the same about the Civil War."

    The Civil War?! The Civil Rights Movement?! Are you serious? Don't... don't even go there. Step by step, you're losing credibility. So please Tim, lets keep this in the context of films and movies, so y'll at least stay in the ball game. Now, if you've been gone, I have to point out that whites have not support black films of any genre... and as I've said many times, blacks have spoken with their dollars. Whites "may" see a problem but what makes you believe they're engaged in our problem?

    "Surely you are not suggesting that the black community chooses to only see images of ourselves that are stereotypical" ~ Tim

    Who said that and where is Miles Ellison when I need him?

  • CareyCarey | May 26, 2013 7:36 PM

    Mr Tim, you're still missing the most basic points... and I understand why. And excuse me for being sarcastic but it works. It's akin to "controversy" in that many people do not move until they're shaken from their seat. If I had dismissed your porous rhetoric with a passing glance, you may have believed you where dropping pearls of wisdom, and thus, passed it on to a clumsy listener. So lets get down to the business of what you obviously do not understand, or unwilling to accept.

    First, lets start with your first delusion:

    "I don't believe that "we blacks" are the only one to see the problem, nor do I believe that "we" should be the only ones to speak out against it. Whites and blacks marched together, because they understood there was a need for change, and together a change was made. I could say the same about the Civil War."

    Young man, are you serious? Listen, the devil is in the details. How many whites marched with blacks during the Civil Rights Movement, and who were they? More importantly, was their participation the deciding factors in whatever gains were made during that period? Please, some of us were there. on the line, holding hands with no whites folks around. Look, if your major source of information are a few old newsreels, you will continue to be duped into believing white folks have your best interest at heart.

    And please (yeah, you've lit a fire in me) are you really using the Civil War as an example of how white folks fought for the rights of the black man!? Okay, for argument sake, lets say the black union soldiers were holding hands with his fellow white buddies while they sang "we shall overcome". When the war ended, was the negro embraced with open arms? If I am not mistaken, a simple piece of paper (that you may have heard of) was not signed until a CENTURY LATER---> The Voting Rights Act of 1965. Where were all the understanding white people in the 100 YEARS leading up to that landmark legislation? Yeah, moving on.

    "If it's one thing I've noticed is that big companies and brands may have practices that are frowned upon, but when called out in the open they tend to quickly change their practices fearing the negative impact on their bottom line. Ex. when Tommy Hilfiger... blah,blah,blah, Liz Claiborne, blah, blah, blah. Walmart, McDonalds, and blah-blah-blah, blah-blah-blah. What makes you think major studios won't do the same to protect their brands?"

    Young man, wth are you talking about? Major studios make loads of money off "their brands", so what movies (since we are talking about movies) are you referring to? Give me a movie or movies, in which you believe fits your examples ( i.e., frowned upon, negative impact on their bottom line, racist, inappropriate, etc.) Do you get my drift? Listen, on one hand you're asking for "diversity", yet, now you're trying to support your argument with examples of racism and "inappropriate business practices". Lets move on. Your next response speaks to the heart of your ambiguities and what you're obviously missing.

    "I won't even dignify the first part of your statement with a response. As to the rest of it I say use your imagination. "We" doesn't require a definition and the "how do we do that" is not rocket science. If the "we" does and the "how" is we are definitely in trouble."

    IMAGINATION?! No young man, YOU'RE in trouble because you seem to be lost. Look, there is a saying/question which highlights why I believe you're a little confused (or you're fooling yourself), check it out... "How do you know when you have arrived?". Well Tim, would you like to answer that? Well, I believe a person needs a map, or A detailed plan before they set out on any serious journey. The map should have a starting point, the routes in which one might travel, and a destination. And, it would behoove whomever to know exactly who's going along on said voyage,where they're going to meet, who has what particular responsibilities/DUTIES, and who's the leading voice? If those things are not in place, your proposition has the makings of a fool's errand.... or lost in space.

    "Surely you are not suggesting that the black community chooses to only see images of ourselves that are stereotypical."

    Who said that? I am not suggesting anything. I am saying black folks have spoken - WITH THEIR DOLLARS. So check the books. If you look there, you will surely find it fair. There has been several black films which would not fit under the banner of "stereotypical", yet, their box office tells the real story. And lastly....

    " Instead, some would rather ignore the issue and focus on pulling down others. More to the point, your sarcastic and harshly toned response to my attempt to offer some solutions to the problem was uncalled for--please release your claw, I might know away out of this basket"

    Welcome to the real world. You have a right to voice your opinion. However, I have a right and RESPONSIBILITY to vehemently disagree with you, when I believe your message is counter-productive. Granted, I may have been a little harsh and a bit sarcastic, however, I am from the old school of "no pain, no real gain". More importantly, I always abide by the law of "You have to get that ass when and where they do their dirt". You know, if you play with a puppy, it will lick you in your face. And Tim, you were rather messy up in here. More importantly, you still have not offered ANY real solutions.

  • Tim Holloway | May 26, 2013 11:11 AMReply

    @ Ghost> I believe in the old saying, " If you build it, they will come." It's the premise that the Hollywood system and mainstream media has stood on since their inception. The Film & Television industry has set the standard by displaying whatever images they wanted believing that we (the viewer) will consume it mostly without question– and they're right. It's also why the old propaganda films during the Holocaust era was so effective. The 1970's film "Network" highlighted the fact that the public has a propensity to blindly accept what's presented (in most cases), calling for the nation to raise their windows–stick their heads out–and shout out, "I'm mad as hell and I'm not gonna take it anymore!" I think we (blacks) should take a page from that book. That said– I think that our community should take responsibility for the content we consume and not support stereotypical images, lack of opportunity in film & television, and yes–hold these black "icons" accountable for their inaction and where applicable stop supporting their (black filmmakers) contribution when it contributes to buffoonery. How can we do this? Easy, Hollywood responds to low box-office ticket sales, low television ratings and a public outcry for change.

    If we focused our efforts we could send an unequivocal message that we want, no demand change. We need to teach our youth to do the same. When I was younger I spent my money on music, films, clothing, ect... on face value. Now, I tend to look deeper into a brand and what it/they stand for. If it's not kosher they don't get my money.

    The black community has proven time and time again that we can unite to make a change, the Civil Rights Movement comes to mind. Now we tend to unite on singular issues like the Travon Martin and OJ Simpson cases–the result bares little impact on the bigger issue of modern day racism. We (the black community) should target main stream media, gatekeepers in entertainment, and yes even these so-called black icons that sit back and do nothing, but help feed the machine.

    There is room for diversity behind and in front of the camera. There is room for more than the stereotypes we see onscreen and in the news. There is room to grow as a society. There is room– and if there isn't knock down the damn wall and make some.

  • Ghost | May 25, 2013 7:57 PMReply

    Maybe the reason why Dr. Dre, Bill Cosby and other blacks that have made don't bother trying to form their own studios is because they know the subject matter they might want to do will not get the full support of the black community. Because too may of us don't understand what variety means.

    Lets say they wanted to do stories in the vein of American Beauty, Project X, Super 8, Harry Potter or a HBCU film that DOES NOT revolve around a stepping or frats.

    Guess who will be the main ones complaining? Screaming this isn't real life because they don't see it in their hood. BLACK FOLKS.

    Guess who will be the main ones complaining if a Static Shock film funded by that black studio stars Arjay Smith? Black folks screaming why not Chief Keef since he looks like him. Just like blacks whined about Red Tails having no black women or the two main stars having white wives.

    Before we can band together and do own on stuff-we need to educate our people on variety. Just because you don't see them on BET or in your hood doesn't mean different types of blacks aren't real. Until then why even bother if your own people won't support you when you try to show something different?

  • Tim Holloway | May 25, 2013 3:56 PMReply

    I presented some commentary on my forum about a similar topic that I think may be relevant...


    IF BLACK IS BEAUTIFUL THAN WHY AREN'T THERE MORE BLACK SUCCESSFUL FILMMAKERS & ACTORS IN HOLLYWOOD?

    As a black filmmaker it's hard to avoid this question. In fact, it's been a question that has followed me since film school. I was even asked recently by a coworker to add this as a topic for discussion on this forum. Admittedly, for me being a black filmmaker, my first thought was to avoid this topic all together as it sometimes makes me uncomfortable. Conversely, I've never been one to shy away from the uneasy. After much research, I've found the answer to be convoluted, daunting, and at times divisive. I even struggled with how to appropriately and objectively present it here. But, here's my attempt.

    IndieWIRE's Shadow And Act's Tambay Obenson featured an article on director Tim Story's understated success. Interestingly, the replies to the article launched a firestorm of heated debate. Even actor Malik Yoba chimed in offering some pearls of wisdom. An actor responding in the reply section of an article? Maybe this topic warrants further inspection, at the very least this conversation should be more mainstream and not just confined to black media.

    Think about it, if Kathryn Bigelow's films can open the public's eyes to the viability of female directors than surely we (the public) can benefit from increased participation from blacks in Hollywood. Black filmmakers have great stories to tell and black actors can, if given the opportunity, generate huge box-office revenues. I'm not just talking about the typical how to get or scheme on a man ("Think Like a Man, Act Like a Woman" or "Two Can Play That Game"), covertly degrading comedy acts ("Medea's ________ "add title), or the occasional musical ("Dreamgirls"). No, blacks have the capacity to offer more than that. Clearly, there are some very talented actors like Denzel Washington, Samuel Jackson, Jamie Foxx, Angela Bassett, Halle Berry, Nelsen Ellis, Rutina Wesley and many unknowns struggling to be seen. I think films like The Matrix, The Avengers, Precious, The Color Purple, The Italian Job, and others have demonstrated that blacks can act, produce, and direct.

    So what can we the public and Hollywood do to showcase more black actors, filmmakers, and diverse films? I'll humbly offer a few suggestions:

    1. The general public should demand more diverse content and films by refusing to just settle for what's given.

    The result could be more memorable and loved films. Not to mention, we would broaden the scope of the entertainment we consume. I know that there has been a demand for more original content. We simply crave it.

    2. Within the black community we need to work together and create more opportunities. I personally detest seeing the public feud between Tyler Perry and Spike Lee (It's not a good look), however I do understand the nature of the debate. Also I may be courting a backlash for saying this (but someone should), there are enough successful black entertainers out there to invest in the black entertainment community. Don't icons like Bill Cosby, Oprah Winfrey, Jay-Z, Beyonce, and countless others who have "made-it" in the entertainment industry have a responsibility to invest in the black arts and entertainment or at the very least provide a platform for its advancement? After all who exactly was their base in helping them reach their success?

    3. Hollywood producers and investors should loose the notion that blacks don't draw box-office numbers. It's Hollywood after all. These are the magicians that can sell almost anything. If they expect the public to suspend disbelief to sell some of the most unbelievable stories; than they can exercise that same suspension of disbelief to elevate members of their own community.

    In closing, I want to leave you with this. We can only effect a change if we agree that one is needed. Film and all that it encompasses is a reflection of our society. Art imitates life and to some degree visa-versa. Blacks, women, and other minority groups' advancement in Hollywood says a lot about the society we live in. We can make the future a better place and improve our lives right now.

    WHAT DO YOU THINK?

    -Timothy Holloway

    To read more and see the responses please visit http://peril.forumotion.com/

  • Truer Than Thou | May 26, 2013 12:16 PM

    There are definitely many more listening and learning. That speech is definitely worth listening to. Way too many people want to be the first..and recognized...100% applicable.

    Just dropping in. My opinion may not be the most popular but if things continue as they are now, my opinion will sadly be valid for decades to come.

  • CC | May 26, 2013 10:12 AM

    Thank you Truer Than Thou,

    It's always nice to know someone is listening. And, to continue the message I hope others listen to MLK's youtube speech "The Drum Major Instinct".

    Btw, who are you? Are you a frequent visitor? I asking because I've often wondered why... when a person stands-up against common opinions, they seem to be fearful of those who oppose their view. Hey, your opinion may not be the most popular, but I believe if one plants the right seeds, others will be less hesitant to follow.

    I am suggesting that a "show thee" mentality works wonders.

    Thanks

  • Truer Than Thou | May 26, 2013 9:37 AM

    @CC, yep it's a cop out. Continue to call it like you see it.

    1. The general public don't need to demand anything. Revisit your marketing (have something worthy of marketing) and market it to your audience. Stop lumping Black viewers into one pool. Your audience may include Black people, but the target will NEVER be all of them. Let go of that crutch.

    2. I'm tired of hearing people say we need to work together and create more opportunities. People are doing that, and the people who they are doing it for ARE NOT SHOWING UP. There are so many initiatives and programs big and small focusing on this very group but the participation is embarrassingly low or zero. Just take this blog for example. How many times have the writers here published posts with ideas to implement, or surveys, or requests for responses, videos etc? And the turn out is low or you never hear about a follow up because there is nothing to follow up on. Low participation. So many people talk about we should build our own studio when they are not even using the resources already set in place.
    We can't and shouldn't expect other people to care about Black images, if the very artists who supposedly want to make them aren't doing all they can.

    3. There have been and will continue to be so many discussions about Hollywood and getting over the producers etc. It's just a cover to mask the real issues. We've already established that Hollywood is not a sure ticket. Now let's talk about what we have control of and stop the blame game used as a distraction. Maybe more people do not commit or work together on anything on a grander scale because they secretly think they are the "it" factor and hollywood just hasn't discovered them yet.... Maybe....

    Our wounds can heal if we realize we're shot and go to the ER.

  • CC | May 26, 2013 8:23 AM

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  • CareyCarey | May 25, 2013 8:57 PM

    Mr. Holloway, the devil is in the details. In your prepositions, you have not added any concrete solutions nor details.

    "1. The general public should demand more diverse content and films by refusing to just settle for what's given."

    Who is the general public you're referring to? If they are black Americans, how do you suggest they demand more diverse content? Are you suggesting they should boycott films, scream and shout, or write their congressman? If they're white Americans, why do you believe they even desire more diverse content? Also, in your vision of "diverse content" what exactly are you referring to? What, more black faces in a "one color fits all" storyline? What, more stories that are not in a genre in which the majority of black Americans enjoy the most?

    "2. Within the black community we need to work together and create more opportunities"

    GREAT! Fire up the band... HIP-HIP HOORAY.... but wait, have you read Martin Luther King's speech "The Drum Major Instinct" (it's also on youtube)? Well, I'd suggest you do so. In the interim, how do you propose we work together? I mean, exactly how do we do that? And, who is "we"? Do you see the ambiguities in your statement(s)?

    " Don't icons like Bill Cosby, Oprah Winfrey, Jay-Z, Beyonce, and countless others who have "made-it" in the entertainment industry have a responsibility to invest in the black arts and entertainment or at the very least provide a platform for its advancement?"

    They all do it on a regular basis.

    "3. Hollywood producers and investors should loose the notion that blacks don't draw box-office numbers."

    Shoulda... coulda.... why should they?It's not a notion, facts do not lie. But again, it's a proven fact that blacks spend the majority of their movie dollars on movies they love the most. And, the most important aspect of this entire discussion is... if it does not make money, it does not make sense to those in the entertainment BUSINESS.

  • Tammie Taylor | May 25, 2013 2:07 PMReply

    Hey Tyler. The story tellers for african american leads are out here. I'm one of them. Getting noticed is our problem. We'll keep trying to reach you. Please don't stop looking for us. I just wrote a paranormal romance novel listed with amazon called "Rainy". Check it out. My name is Tammie Taylor and I'm the author.

  • ScriptTease | May 24, 2013 11:12 PMReply

    Sounds of Blackness, "Hold on, Change is Comin". Sometimes it only takes one person to get the ball rolling. A person in the business who honestly and truly want to see other black folks prosper without the jealousy. I've said this before, and I will say it again, We (black folk) should have a minimum of 6 films a year in the theater. We have enough Directors, Producers, Writers, Etc.... to git-er-done, but the problem we have in the black community, is not having each others back. We really and truly don't need to be the Token in Mr. Charlie's movie, we have enough resources for our own. Again, WE are the problem. UNITY, UNITY, UNITY!!!

  • Srene | May 24, 2013 10:14 PMReply

    I just read this article the other day.. http://bit.ly/178SjfX... here is an excerpt.. some truth to it.. what comes to mind is Will Smith and Eva Mendes.. in Hutch..

    "
    Negro male entertainers have had access to Hollywood-levels of money for at least the past 45-50 years. The door has been open for BM in showbiz for the past fifty years. But unlike WM in showbiz, negro male entertainers refuse to lift up women from their own race. Once the typical negro male entertainer gets access to Hollywood-level resources, he shuts the door behind himself and “makes it rain” for nonblack women.......Judging from their collective actions, negro male entertainers have NO real interest in building an entertainment industry of their own. The vast majority of negro male entertainers also have no real interest in asserting control over any particular niche in showbiz. Whatever AA-created crumbs exist, such as Tyler Perry’s mess, is built from the money spent by AA women consumers"

  • Pretzel head | May 24, 2013 9:59 PMReply

    This board is interesting. Hollywood is Hollywood. This is not a new topic.
    1) I don't think people are looking for Oprah or Tyler as saviors but it is sad when some black people with the means to help only do so after you've been through hell and back. In other cultures they have no qualms about reaching back and helping others. There is never a limit to their generosity because they know that is how a people, their history, their stories survive.
    2) In Los Angeles, back in the day, there was a golf course that would not accept Jews. So guess what Jewish people did? They built their own golf course next to the restricted golf course. Everyone chipped in. Today their park and golf course is visited more than the restricted golf course.
    Point being: We must build together. This question should not even be asked in the year 2013. If we build together, we can have our own network (which Bill Cosby attempted and received very little help-he almost bought NBC). Imagine a world where we NEVER have to beg, protest or demand that someone to put us on their show or news desk or write us in their scripts. It does not take millions, it takes everyone chipping in and getting involved. If every black person today put in one dollar to the television fund or film maker fund that's millions of dollars or donating their time. It starts with us and ends with us.

  • Pretzel head | May 24, 2013 9:59 PMReply

    This board is interesting. Hollywood is Hollywood. This is not a new topic.
    1) I don't think people are looking for Oprah or Tyler as saviors but it is sad when some black people with the means to help only do so after you've been through hell and back. In other cultures they have no qualms about reaching back and helping others. There is never a limit to their generosity because they know that is how a people, their history, their stories survive.
    2) In Los Angeles, back in the day, there was a golf course that would not accept Jews. So guess what Jewish people did? They built their own golf course next to the restricted golf course. Everyone chipped in. Today their park and golf course is visited more than the restricted golf course.
    Point being: We must build together. This question should not even be asked in the year 2013. If we build together, we can have our own network (which Bill Cosby attempted and received very little help-he almost bought NBC). Imagine a world where we NEVER have to beg, protest or demand that someone to put us on their show or news desk or write us in their scripts. It does not take millions, it takes everyone chipping in and getting involved. If every black person today put in one dollar to the television fund or film maker fund that's millions of dollars or donating their time. It starts with us and ends with us.

  • Mandla | May 24, 2013 9:04 PMReply

    The reason, for the most part, why there are few roles for Black actresses is that actresses are generally hired for their mass visual appeal which is based on western cultural ideas of beauty. Any representation outside of that, ie. African, has had and will continue to have a consistent resistance to entry into the "system"(defined as The major studios of Hollywood). There should be no argument that there are obviously exceptions to this rule. But on the whole, if the role is for an female, that female will more than likely be white as not to keep audiences away. The exceptions usually fall in the category of HOW closely Black actresses fall toward the spectrum of western ideas of beauty. Black actresses come in all visual categories but roles that go to the Halle Berry's and Paula Patton could just as well go to a Viola Davis or a Naomie Harris or Adepero Oduye. But they do not because from a physical perspective they are not deemed attractive or sexually appealing enough to be cast in those roles. So first, it's western culture's unappealing desire for the Black body of women that prevents roles being had by Black actresses.

    Second, it's power and privilege. Again tied to what the "system" sees as what is important or viable or worthy of support. Black stories are not seen as that. Lena Dunham is a wunderkind writer/producer an HBO show and those who can give power anoint her with her own show. It's called GIRLS. It's about GIRLS. She's writing, from her perspective about GIRLS. What they go through, how they think about relationships, how they think about anything. She's supposed to be insightful, funny, quirky.
    Zooey Deschanel gets her own sitcom. Could her character be Black? Hmnnn, I don't think so.
    Would HBO give such power/privilege to a Black female? I don't think so. But it may change.(Issa)
    The Hollywood "system" should not be the primary avenue that our energy is focused on regarding increasing visible roles for Black actresses. It would have to be independent of That "system". That's why Ava is doing what she's doing, outside of that "system".
    The TP/Oprah discussion is mostly BS. In general,
    TP states that it's "the stories that are being told". Most of these "stories" can have Black actresses in them AS THE LEAD CHARACTER. He's implying that stories, scripts for tv and film are written for white actresses and for the most part only white actresses can play them and Black actresses just wouldn't fit the character. That's BS. Unless you're writing about some really specific concept or from a historical or culturally specific perspective like Amish female women or women in the Appalachians a whole hell of of a lot of female characters can be either white or Black or anything else for that matter.
    For Oprah to chime in, "that's it" referencing that Black actresses are not getting roles because they don't fit into the stories being written is mind numbing. Let's take a film off the top of my head. I haven't seen it yet so, I'm only going by trailers and what I've read. Why don't Black actresses get roles? The film is Mud. It's really an adventure about two boys. Mathew McConaughey stars opposite wait for it... Reese Witherspoon. She's not the story but it's a lead role in a major film. What would TP/Oprah say would be the reason why a Black Actress did not fit the role/character for this "story"? Seems to me a Naomie Harris or Adepero Oduye could play the role just as well.

    I think TP/Oprah are disingenuous(or brainwashed) in addressing this issue and we should be critical of them when we believe that they are.

  • Daryl | May 24, 2013 7:06 PMReply

    One more thing Dr.Dre 70 millions dollars investment to USC was a sellout move. You don't think that 70 million couldn't help young black filmmakers and musicians or a black college. This is why we can't look for rich black folks to help us because they are not going to do too much stuff for black people, they don't want to look too black for their white corporate slavemasters executives behind the scenes that control them that want to keep things the same. So let Tyler Perry, Oprah, Will Smith, Jay-Z, Beyonce, and Dr. Dre do what they do and don't expect nothing from them because if they wanted to really to try and change the industry they would, instead they just just want to sell black folks the idea of getting rich and assimilating keeping white folks in power with the black masses stuck in the same economic situations asking what we need to do instead of going out and doing it.

  • NO BRAINER | May 24, 2013 8:08 PM

    I also agree with this as well. The reason for my first post wasn't to ask people like TP and O to save black cinema with their god-like power. I'm complaining because they're sitting there putting the blame on Hollywood and their writers while sitting on a billion that can easily fill the void. Just like we should let TP, O, Will, Jay, Bey and Dre do what they do, THEY should let Hollywood do what they do and stop deflecting blame to them. That's the only point I'm trying to make. If people still misunderstand this then, again, R.I.F.

    Also, I still think we're asking the wrong questions.

  • Daryl | May 24, 2013 6:52 PMReply

    Everybody comments have been real about this subject. I think what we have to do is support black independent films that are telling good stories and offering good roles for black actors and actresses that the hollywood machine don't do. This is going to have to be a collective effort for us to change things, I'm not talking about a collective effort of everybody coming together to do films, the collective effort I'm talking about is indiviual filmmakers projects get the support from the actors and crews to be able to make their film the best they can. You have enough of these films out with audience support and the industry will build itself with us coming together without having to come together because it's a market to sustain these films which will make black films better overall and also help black economic power with the jobs created and the partnership opportunity with other black businesses to help promote your film along with their business. Everybody let's keep the discussion going and put these ideas in motion. If everybody on here that commented about this article get their project done and bring their ideas that they are passionate about on what needs to be done to change the industry to the table, we will change things.

  • NO BRAINER | May 24, 2013 7:59 PM

    I agree with this. Finally, some practicality. If only the right questions were asked to prompt answers like this.

  • Danny | May 24, 2013 4:09 PMReply

    Okay I know people are attacking Oprah BUT she's done a lot for black women giving them work. Do people on Shadow and Act have amnesia? Remember, Women of Brewster Place the movie and the short lived tv series in the late 1980s? Forget, My Eyes Were Watching God which gave Halle Berry an Emmy nomination and was a ratings success. How about, Beloved, okay Beloved didn't do well at the box office but Oprah gave Kimberley Elise and Thandie Newton work. How about, Color Purple the broadway play which Oprah gave numerous African Americans work. So Oprah has done her part. I don't see Denzel Washington or Sam Jackson or Will Smith or any those top black male film directors going out of their way to help black women in Hollywood.

  • NO BRAINER | May 24, 2013 7:56 PM

    It's so much bigger than getting for more black actress. In fact, I think Oprah is asking the wrong question. But whatever. I'll just stand idly by and watch as they shove misinformation down your throats. That's how THEY have controlled the masses since the beginning of time.

  • NO BRAINER | May 24, 2013 4:06 PMReply

    Also, I don't agree with that bull about writing what you know. Like George Lucas actually lived in a galaxy far, far away, or Paul Thomas Anderson grew up in the porn industry, or M. Night Shyamalan has experience counseling kids who can see dead people. I mean, c'mon! Maybe the first film could be inspired only by what you know, especially if you don't know what else to write. But after that, get out of the box. The filmmakers I mentioned, and the many before and after them, accomplished writing about things they didn't know by extensive research.

    Forget all this junk about why there isn't enough roles for Black women. The biggest challenge I see facing black cinema and the people behind it is their limitations to stories they know and the audiences they cater to that won't have it any other way.

  • Zee | May 24, 2013 3:50 PMReply

    It's so annoying I can't watch these videos in the UK!

  • Mark & Darla | May 24, 2013 1:39 PMReply

    Who call is it.

    Is it Spike call, to call Tyler and say I have a screenplay I would like to direct, need your financial help. Is it Tyler call to call Spike and ask, need my financial help with anything.

    Is it Tyler call to call and find out about every black projects out there suspended in air waiting for help.

    Another reason for the lack of collaborations, some people have their nose so far up in the air, working with Tyler is beneath their social circle.

    Maybe if people stop throwing ugly names at Tyler there might be more collaborations between Tyler and other black directors in the future. If not the name calling will continue the divide between Tyler who have and the people who have not.

    That is the big picture.

  • Nadell | May 24, 2013 1:20 PMReply

    I truly believe what will come out of this partnership b/w Perry & Oprah is emphasizing the power of 'networking'. It should happen more. It is extremely beneficial for the up-and-coming directors, writers, producers etc. to connect with those who have already established themselves in the industry. The new talent need an entrance and collaborations, as these two, can spark a wave for others to follow along.
    Now, is Perry & Oprah's partnership supreme? Um, I'd probably say no but they are doing what needs to be done.
    As far as Perry saying more writers who can tell a 'black' story is the key....I'd disagree. Rhimes' 'Scandal' could have easily been written for a white woman. The difference is her stories are universal. Her writing doesn't have a definitive attachment. She doesn't write her characters stereotypically as I believe Tyler does. I'll give him the credit, he is making strides but those are extremely minute strides. I doubt he desires to break away from those certain stereotypes he perpetuates through his characters.
    Hollywood is so set in its way that they will not accept anyone who isn't similar to Perry. His writing has that one dimension they would prefer be displayed. His writing fits the stereotypes of black women which is why they continue to allow his and only his writing to take precedence. The Kasi Lemmons or Ava DuVernays of the world will have a hard time being sought for their work because it is so outside of Hollywood's fabric for people of color.

    And I agree, Tyler does "get it" but he is unwilling to "change it". He has made a niche for himself...he profitable market, so why in the world would he alter it? He refuses to make the changes because that would affect his base. Which I totally understand but am a little saddened because we'll continue to get the cooker-cuter writing. He has offered an olive branch to Toure's bash but is super averse to Spike's criticism.... the irony.

  • Um No | May 24, 2013 12:50 AMReply

    Yes. Lets have Tyler and Oprah save us.

    Black folk ALWAYS looking for a savior. Do you all know how fucking naive you sound?

    Why haven't Tyler and Oprah saved black cinema? That's basically what most of you are whining about.

    Bunch of do nothing folk complaining about those that have done something. Throwing darts from the sidelines. So Willie Lynch of you but its typical now-a-days.

    I'm no a fan of Tyler or Oprah but at least they are DOING something in the biz. Unless all that about Tyler hiring black folk was bullshit? Was it? If not, what the hell are you talking about?

    As much power as these two have, they can't change Hollywood by themselves you naive motherf%%ers! This shit has been in place for decades. Grow a brain!

  • NO BRAINER | May 24, 2013 3:48 PM

    Amen to this drivel. Yeah, no wonder we're not getting ahead in this industry.

  • Levita J. | May 24, 2013 11:52 AM

    @Um No AMEN!!!

  • Rocket | May 24, 2013 11:40 AM

    Yes. The constant complaining gets old. You would think Oprah and Tyler stole someone's rent money.

  • NO BRAINER | May 24, 2013 10:34 AM

    UM NO, you NO KNOW what you're talking about, and that's a NO NO.

    Speaking for myself, I would be foolish to think these two people could change Hollywood. That's not what I'm saying. R.I.F. It will take a bunch of people, both on the creative end and the executive side, to change Hollywood and these people have to be extremely passionate and knowledgeable about movies. Tyler and O are good at what they do but that doesn't include making movies. So, I cannot possibly believe they can save black cinema.

    However, I would say, with their power and money, they can start filling the void they're discussing instead of sitting here and, well, just talking about it and putting the onus on Hollywood and their writers. It doesn't take millions of dollars to do it either. That's a fact. It just takes really good strategic moves by smart people (almost like Moneyball) working for them who are, as I described before, extremely passionate, knowledgeable and I would add HIP when it comes to movies. And these two have the money to hire these types to make them strong where they are weak.

    Also, it's not just Tyler and O, it's anyone with money who can make moves that can create change, the change I believe they would like to see, with the type of no-brainer initiative I'm talking about. Maybe making movies and creating opportunities aren't their main concern. Great! But if that's the case, it seems like a political statement they're making just to make themselves and their endeavors seem more relevant than they really are.

    The only naive motherf%%er here is YOU if you truly believe that PEOPLE like Oprah and Tyler Perry cannot make a difference.

  • NO BRAINER | May 24, 2013 12:17 AMReply

    I see a lot of comments but nobody is saying the right thing.

    I'll tell you the real reason why there aren't more roles for black women. Because people like these two, Perry and Winfrey, like to talk about these things, shifting blame to Hollywood and their writers, and not looking to the real culprits in the mirror. And we sit here and let them off the hook instead of calling them on their bull****. That's why there aren't enough roles for black women, why there isn't enough roles for black men, why there isn't enough quality films being released of the African Diaspora. We have all the money and power and we still look to Hollywood, putting the onus on them.

    Forest Whitaker is making things happen. Look at Fruitvale. And he doesn't have half the money and clout these two have. Yet, he uses he little bit of influence, makes a quality film he believes in, stands completely out of the way of it and now it's winning Sundance and screening at Cannes. Most likely it will be among the talk come Oscar season, and yes it is as simple as that. If Whitaker can do it, what's stopping them?

    And I don't want to hear s*** about writer's in Hollywood. They have it bad enough. You seriously want to bare this on their shoulders as well? They lucky if they are invited to set during the production of one of the dozens of scripts they wrote that actually gets greenlit. Meanwhile the other specs are either in turnaround limbo, collecting dust on some producer's desk or worst, collecting dust inside the writer's laptop. What about the many talented writers, undiscovered, that most likely have a great scripts out there that have roles for Black women? Why not start something like Forest Whitaker's Juntobox, or a contest like Matt Damon and Ben Affleck's Project Greenlight? What's all the f****** fussing for? These two alone can finance twenty films, easy.

    With mentalities like theirs, don't expect anything to change in Hollywood for the next 40 years. Black cinema is in need of the first coming.

  • NO BRAINER | May 24, 2013 9:47 AM

    Lol... Tyler and Oprah didn't do anything for Precious but lent their names after everything was done, after the development of the production, the production, post production, acceptance into Sundance and the acquisition of the film. Once a release date was set, these two decided to come on, not giving any money or anything but their names.

  • Vincent Mickens | May 24, 2013 5:28 AM

    But Tyler and Oprah did the same thing for Precious in 2009.

  • NO BRAINER | May 24, 2013 12:30 AM

    I agree, CAMPBELL. Too much competition amongst us.

  • Campbell | May 23, 2013 11:15 PMReply

    I detect a level of enmity on this blog. Sad.
    I'm happy Oprah and Tyler are combining their brands, and collaborating. I personally won't watch, but collaboration is the key black people, not competition!
    The black culture is often full of crabs in a barrel...

  • AccidentalVisitor | May 23, 2013 11:46 PM

    What stake would some of us have in people who only seem to have a concern for the lack of representation for black women rather than black people in general? What benefit do black men get out of that? I have gotten the sense for years that when it comes to black produced TV/movies that the only audience that seems to matter are black women. Fine if they feel that way but I don't have any obligation to support such material. Wake me when Tyler, Oprah and others of their ilk want to expand the conversation to include black people in general. Once they get to that moment then I'll pay attention enough to see if their proposal to take on that issue are steps in the right direction.

  • Mark & Darla | May 23, 2013 10:52 PMReply

    Given how Oprah praise Ava movie 'Middle of Nowhere' seem Oprah was ready to help her in any way possible, the question is did Ava reciprocate Oprah enthusiasm and ask her for help promoting her movie. I think by going on twitter gushing about Ava movie was Oprah way of reaching out to Ava without being overbearing with her wealth. Listening and studying Ava in interview, she doesn't want Oprah or Tyler help, she wants to build her own empire by herself.

    Now does anyone have any inside information that Ava ask Tyler or Oprah for help and was turn down.

  • ALM | May 23, 2013 9:42 PMReply

    I like Tyler, but wow…..where do I start.

    1. It’s really messed up that he places blame on the writers. Unless there is another clip in the interview where he continues on an additional path of placing blame, he has completely let Hollywood off the hook for their representations of people of color.

    2. I also disagree with him on the fact that a person can only write what they know. Sure, it is easier to write about what you’ve lived, but you don’t always have to live an experience to write about it. Since he brought up Shonda Rhimes, I will utilize her for my example. As far as I know, Shonda Rhimes has never been a Caucasian male physician, but she wrote the daylights out of McSteamy and McDreamy.

    The only issue that comes up when writing about an experience that you have not lived is the fact that Hollywood tends to write in stereotypes. Sure, a Caucasian person can write about African American experiences, but it would take a ton of research in order to make sure that the representation is accurate and not stereotypical. I get the feeling that many in Hollywood could care less about accurate representations.

    3. Also, there are TONS of writers of color. The issue is not that they are not in place, the issue is that they are either not being hired at a consistent rate or when they are hired they are placed in a box to only write what Hollywood deems they are able to write. Writers should be given a level of creative freedom, but that would be too much like right.

    4. Tyler speaks of the “ones who don’t get it”. The issue is, the “ones who don’t get it” seem to be growing in number based on his box office numbers. He may want to revisit what “it” is.

    5. If he takes constructive criticism into account, why are so many people saying that he has not progressed? Is it that he considers almost all criticism of his work to be destructive and he ignores it? I’ve seen some constructive comments about his work, but his work has stayed the same for the most part.

  • TAZ | May 23, 2013 11:55 PM

    Hollywood could care less about how we are represented. We really need to get off that and take control and responsibility for what we have initiated and put out there as a whole.

    I don't think TP is 'blaming' the writers. Pardon me for saying that I think that is part of a 'story' you and many others have perceived about TP. Differentiating Fact vice story about fact is very critical.

    I am not a writer, but a reader, so that is my disclaimer. However, to state this in simple terms, I believe that a writer...an author....writes to situations based on experiences and develops a character based on people they know. Therefore, anyone can develop a character, such as McSteamy, based on her doctors and research....so neither black experience or color of the writer has anything to do with this. ----That said, to turn around and say that caucasian writers would have to do a ton of research to write from the Black perspective is a little bit....interesting. Because it seems like you are speaking directly to writing 'black experience stories' which is more specific than generic hospital drama that Shonda is responsible for and whaaaala! You are actually agreeing the TP, which hopefully won't disturb you. Because the QUESTION was why aren't there more roles - he brings up Shonda in the stance of cast of characters, complete with the extras, day players that do one scene......he is saying because it is coming from her world, her world is not DEVOID of black folk so it is natural as a writer to include what is inclusive in your everyday life. And if there are those in power with the same mindset, decisions - by both the writer and TPTB - to be inclusive probably would result in less whitewashing. Just my two cents.

    Lastly, taking constructive criticism into account is not the same as being shown a better way of doing things. TP needs a mentor that is trustworthy and respectful. If I do not know how to properly write a screenplay, what to value placement, writing direction.......no amount of criticism of my novellas will make me into a good screenwriter. Secondly, let's not forget that for more the most part, his movies are 'adaptations' of theatre plays, which he tries to stay true to as possible. (I don't blame him...the plays are hella better than the movies, most which I enjoyed) Even I know in order to bring a play successfully to film is not child's play and involves a lot more than what S&A or Armond White can give him.

  • AM | May 23, 2013 9:44 PM

    It's weird. Oprah was praising "Middle of Nowhere" on twitter, but I haven't heard anything else about her and Ms. Duvernay. Maybe they have something in the works that we in the public aren't privy to yet.

  • FactChecker | May 23, 2013 8:14 PMReply

    What I don't understand is why Oprah feigns surprise. As though she doesn't understand the power structure of Hollywood and the entertainment business and how things work.

    On the other hand, all she has to do is look in the mirror, as she could also be considered part of the problem too.

    Instead of bringing TP onboard to OWN, she could have chosen to support someone who was on the level of Shonda Rhimes, say, Ava DuVernay, or Julie Dash, Kriss Turner, Sanaa Hamri, Ali LeRoi, or any number of writers, directors and producers who've created QUALITY movies and scripts and worked on mainstream programming; thus bringing more knowledge, skills and understanding of how to actually create programming of substance.

  • CareyCarey | May 24, 2013 9:52 PM

    Miles, you need a bullhorn and a whip because they're not listening.

    Add a few words and change a few names... your words have come and gone:

    "In fact, I dare to say most people (Gary, Jasmine, GriotKing, Nadia, ALM, Katie, Daryl, Patty and Factchecker) did not really listen with two ears to the clips because the comments alone are contradicting, but in unison on the contempt toward TP and Oprah."

    Yeah Miles, as you know, this is not the first time you've ushered that wisdom on the floor, but as usual **crickets**

    I am reminded of the Little Red Hen

    Once upon a time there was a little red hen who lived in a big farm-yard. She had three fluffy yellow chicks. One morning as they were busily scratching about the yard, looking for something to eat, the little red hen found a grain of wheat.

    "Look!" she said. "See what I have found. Who will help me to plant this grain of wheat?"

    "Not I," said the black duck. "I must go down to the pond to throw rocks at Tyler Perry
    "Not I," said the black cat. "I have some visitors coming in a few minutes and we're going to spend out time vilifying Oprah.

    "Very well, I will then", said the little red hen, and she did.

    After a while some weeds appeared among the stalks of wheat.One day the little red hen asked: "Who will help me to weed this wheat?"

    "Not I," said the black pig. "That sort of work doesn't agree with me, give it to Tyler and Oprah."
    "Not I", said the black goat. "I would not be able to tell the weeds from quality films".

    "Very well, I will see what Miles and Carey has to say", said the little red hen, and she did but no one was listening.

  • Miles Ellison | May 24, 2013 9:11 PM

    All fine and good, but who would watch any of the work of most of those artists in anything resembling profitable numbers? Most of the black people who watch OWN want to watch Tyler Perry's product and the other low grade entertainment on that channel. That's her audience now. That audience won't watch "quality" programming. That's what needs to be addressed. That isn't Perry and Oprah's fault. It's the fault of an audience that doesn't support anything different.

  • jasmine | May 23, 2013 8:08 PMReply

    Brother owns a third of lionsgate and he's talking about, 'more people with power.?' Hell, Tyler can't even release a romantic comedy at the right time. But let's not just attack him. What about Geoffery Fletcher. He hired Saoirse Ronan, Alexis Bledel and Tony Soprano himself Gandofini. That's right, let's talk about it. I know the truth hurts. How come Amandla Stenberg and Adepero Oduye weren't called? Just saying.
    Someone has to push the boundaries and cast, write and direct us in provocative, exciting, demanding roles.
    Tyler and Oprah sure aren't doing it.

  • jasmine | May 24, 2013 1:12 PM

    Yes, I realize it's a business. I read the minority report here at S & A. He needs to make $$$. I guess two black people in a movie is the kiss of death. Three! Oh my god!

    No Oprah or Tyler aren’t going to save us. For taz and some others, I guess the point isn’t clear. Let’s pretend about Amy Adams and Jessica Chastain. Every time we see them, they’re in a Rob Schneider movie or he’s just not that into you part 2. Maybe even a part three. We often see them playing a single Chicago mother of three, who has been struggling for years to keep her kids off of the streets. Or we see them as an ex-girlfriend baby mama drama queen or a cleaning woman. When are we going to see that Oscar winning celebrated performance? Eventually it’s a wide known fact that Jessica or Amy continue to be cast in typical slap stick comedies or lack luster dramas. Will we ever see their full potential? How come nobody writes for them? Some say you have to write what you know. Whites stop going to the theaters in droves. They demand why the white actresses with such beauty and talent, are not playing more broad, complicated characters.
    How come we can’t see them play US embassy staff, a CIA officer, a troubled researcher and hacker, a ballet dancer, or a teenager that looks after her mentally ill mother they scream! Then I wake up from my dream and realize that Rooney Mara, Jessica Chastain, Natalie Portman, or Jennifer Lawrence are casts in these roles. Jessica and Amy are doing fine. And all of this, still taking place in the 21st century. 2013. All because of the color of my skin?

  • NO BRAINER | May 24, 2013 12:20 AM

    I'm not mad at Fletcher though. You're talking about his directorial debut. It's a business. Let this be a success first and then we'll see. Other than that, you're right about Tyler Perry and his power. The same thing I said.

  • patty | May 23, 2013 6:49 PMReply

    Circle Jerk. Don't they have the power to green light said films? So. Out. Of. Touch. And, interested in keeping their pockets lined. These are our representatives...SAD.

  • Katie | May 23, 2013 6:37 PMReply

    Tyler's letting racist Hollywood off the hook?! Tell me Mr. Perry, since when do you actually have to like be of a racial community to write about that racial community or their point of view? And ask yourself, do you have to be a certain gender to write a story from that gender's point of view? And one more thing Mr. Perry, has that stopped ANY of there these white writers from writing about any marginalized group they please? Nope. There would be more stories of black women if whites in Hollywood (a.k.a. the gatekeepers) saw our stories are worthy. So don't sit up there and say, "we need more storytellers." We already have those. We have the talent and the brainpower. We just need the financing and distribution WHICH RACIST WHITES CONTROL IN HOLLYWOOD! It's the institutions, white supremacy, and the 'powers that be' that won't allow black storytellers to get work, financing, and distribution. How can you not find any storytellers when there are 1billion+ black people roaming this earth? You don't find that a bit odd with all the resources Hollywood has? How is this NOT a "conspiracy" Mr. Perry? There is no other way you can explain how blacks have as little power (and say) over their images as they do considering Hollywood has been here for over a century. And yes, this is actually well documented. So you can miss me with this crap, indirectly attributing this lack or representation on your own people... You should be ashamed of yourself!

    But of course, Perry knows who butters his bread. >_>

  • Daryl | May 23, 2013 6:11 PMReply

    I think Tyler Perry answer about black actresses is a cop out. The real reason black actresses have lack of roles is power and control. Do you really thing white actresses want to have to worry about competing with black actresses for roles when it's already hard enough for them competiting among themselves without black actresses or any women of color in the mix. It goes the same with black films, actors, writers, and directors. Hollywood is not going to do nothing to go against their bottom line, the bottom line I'm talking about it is white privilege economics and power. That's why we have to create our own lane if we want to have these opportunities for black actresses and black actresses have to understand the game and not get caught up in the glitz and glamour and take advantage of the roles that are offer to them by independent filmmakers who are creating roles for them.

  • NO BRAINER | May 24, 2013 4:08 PM

    He's correct because you (DANNY) say he's correct? I beg to differ. I think you both are wrong. But, again, whatever.

  • Danny | May 24, 2013 4:03 PM

    Daryl's comment is correct, why would Hollywood promote several black actresses to become leading ladies? Although some people think Hollywood doesn't influence us about concepts about beauty, femininity ect, it does. Hollywood is going to promote Jennifer Lawrence over Keke Palmer. In order to sell films overseas Hollywood believes Europeans and even people of colour globally prefer the white female image of beauty over the black woman. People are conditioned by Hollywood to believe whiteness is superior and better. The few women of colour who do squeak through are of course those who appear closer to the white image like mixed race singers turned actresses Beyonce, Rihanna, or mixed race women like Halle Berry, Rosario Dawson, Zoe Saldana or Paula Patton. Hollywood is always going to place the mixed race mulatto or black Hispanic latina over the black woman.

  • NO BRAINER | May 23, 2013 11:43 PM

    I think you're slightly off too, DARYL. But, whatever.

  • Nadia | May 23, 2013 6:08 PMReply

    The thing that struck me most about that first video is Oprah's reaction to Tyler's response. "That's It!" She reacts like this is some kind of epiphany to her or something.

    And in the second video, Tyler talks about not paying any attention to the hateful critics and only paying attention to those that are constructive, but yet he says he called Toure to talk to him about his critique??? What the hell? Toure said Tyler was like malt liquor for the masses! And he actually gave Toure his time, calling him up on the phone to try and understand where he was coming from? Really? What part of your work being called "malt liquor for the masses" is constructive enough that you'd want to call him up on the phone to talk to him to understand where he was coming from??

  • ALM | May 24, 2013 8:09 PM

    @ Nadia: It's interesting. As someone else said above, Tyler doesn't have an issue with Toure', but he has repeatedly cursed Spike Lee out for making similar comments.

  • NO BRAINER | May 23, 2013 11:04 PM

    He is allowed to ask one or two of the millions of "haters" as he calls them to find out where their statements come from, especially is the statement is as colorful as the malt liquor comment. That's a good one. I would call Toure up too....lol

  • Dankwa Brooks | May 23, 2013 5:34 PMReply

    Ok this may sound like hating for hating sake, but I think it's constructive crticism, whoever pulled focus on those main close up cameras need to be shot. That in and out and in and out and in and out and...you get it. Very distracting!

  • PhredG | May 23, 2013 6:04 PM

    Almost as if he had the camera on...dare I SAY it?...AUTOFOCUS!!!
    As an editor that'd drive me crazy.

  • Gary C. | May 23, 2013 5:17 PMReply

    They waited to the end and seemingly as a throwaway, they on having the power to make stories and roles for black women. Simply implying we need more writers to change the condition is asinine and Oprah, if she choose can be that power on a consistent basis with her wealth and influence.

  • TAZ | May 23, 2013 11:58 PM

    CareyCarey - nice!...'Resentment kills a fool and envy slaps the simple'

    Jasmine, more's the pity for you

  • CareyCarey | May 23, 2013 9:47 PM

    "I am not sure what point Gary C. was making.....his post is not really clear"

    Hello!

    But TAZ, your point was very clear. That is: Resentment kills a fool and envy slaps the simple.

  • jasmine | May 23, 2013 9:46 PM

    Yes. And the contempt will continue...

  • TAZ | May 23, 2013 9:36 PM

    I am not sure what point Gary C. was making.....his post is not really clear except to say what ever it is about TP, it is asinine - AND - he believes Oprah can be the black women savior because of her wealth and influence. To which I say, I did not know Oprah was in the business of making movies and making decisions in movie studios. In fact, I think one or two of you forgot Oprah's role in this clip was as INTERVIWER, not Oprah sugar momma that listens to what we think she should do with her money.

    In fact, I dare to say most people (Gary, Jasmine, GriotKing, Nadia, Katie, Daryl, Patty and Factchecker) did not really listen with two ears to the clips because the comments alone are contradicting, but in unison on the contempt toward TP and Oprah.

  • NO BRAINER | May 23, 2013 8:47 PM

    BUT, you missed the simple point GARY C. was making...

  • GriotKing. | May 23, 2013 6:15 PM

    Let's be clear, BUT, Tyler Perry nor Oprah's net worth or resume means they absolutely "know what they're talking about." Yes, they've been successful. But that doesn't mean those of us without the $$ like them, influence like them, etc. can't comment and have opinions on them. Tyler and Oprah, while influential and successful, are problematic in a lot of ways. Understand that.

  • But | May 23, 2013 6:03 PM

    People with their net worth are not asinine...with the results they have produced in the industry, they know what they're talking about...if your knowlege has not resulted in similar or greater success, maybe you can learn from them. By the way Oprah is programming a whole network so I think she is already paying hundreds of writers "on a consistent basis"...lol.

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