Watch Episode 1 Of New Comedy Web Series "The Married Bachelor"

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by Tambay A. Obenson
November 14, 2011 3:28 PM
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Continuing the S&A web series kick... here's another one for you all to watch and comment on. It's called The Married Bachelor, a relationship comedy that comes from writer/producer/director Marquis Smalls

It stars a few names some of you might recognize, like Stephen Hill, Rob Morgan, Anthony Merchant and Marquis Smalls himself, who I met over the weekend at Warrington Hudlin's black cinema townhall discussion at the Museum of the moving Image, here in NYC.

Watch episode 1 below, which is titled, Twit Pic:

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  • Larice Shamar | February 21, 2012 11:42 PMReply

    Hey the webisode is funny. I'm wondering if you have more episodes that can be viewed online. If you get a chance checkout my website that promote webseries. www.endeeonline.com We feature on upcoming music, models, art, tv/film and business. We would like to improve your viewing online.

  • Nadine | December 19, 2011 11:46 PMReply

    Here's another webseries just posted by S&A that reflects how Black women from the NYC (unless they are new to NYC) really carry themselves. http://blogs.indiewire.com/shadowandact/take-a-look-at-the-new-webseries-skinnie-bitches Black Women, actually, most PEOPLE in the city have things to do, people to see...they're about business and culture so these fictional BW throwing themselves at the "brothas", in such a tacky manner, is a BM patriarchal fantasy.

  • Nadine | December 18, 2011 4:06 PMReply

    o_O .... I don't know... I'm from New York and this kind of looks like BK (ok, just confirmed), so I'm trying to understand why, in episode 3 entitled "Weave", the women sound like they're straight out of a Tyler Perry flick, or Atlanta... The "sisters", at least in NY, do NOT behave this way...what are these writers doing? What were they thinking?

  • Don Draper | December 18, 2011 12:23 PMReply

    I wasn't going to comment but as a black-Briton I think I'd like to share my perspective on African-American attitudes and entertainment. It hurts us. This 'jive' talking, adulterous, hip-hop culture permeating every facet of life...shtick is fine because it represents the lifestyles of a singular demographic of people and damages the perception of all the others. Therefore, I would have to agree with U of I Alum in the fact that people with differing mindsets and lifestyles must also be represented. (That's the point...read on for reasons!)

    This is why Awkward Black Girl has been so popular because the idea of a black person (especially a woman) having a multi-layered personality, being the protagonist of an idiosyncratic rather than moronic/overly sexualised/ignorant character journey and dealing with problems rationally as another drone in a HOMOGENOUS societal culture is such a rarity.

    We cannot expect Hollywood or the big/medium/small studios to do this. Mass entertainment must attract the masses and the majority of mass media's viewership in Europe and America (as the main markets) with a significant disposable income are white - that is a statistical reality - and when they do it will be the things that grossly lampoon rather than intellectual satirise. I hate Tyler Perry. I am sorry.

    So in my opinion its up to the indy filmmaker and writer to TAKE A MINUTE and think about not WHAT they want to say but HOW to find the most novel way to say it.

    I have to admit that it's nice seeing a black couple just talking in a scripted show...lol...which is so weird but true! The black men talking at the coffee shop? Not so much. Yes, men talk about their conquests but the tone of "I gets mine" is way too generic and 'played out' plus not all black people/men talk like that. We have jobs and have conversations about other things that have nothing to do with our dicks and banging baristas that can also be funny and satirical. I commend you for getting your series off the ground, because as a writer in the process myself I know how difficult it is, but I just believe its time for black writers, producers and film makers to have the balls to tell stories outside of their comfort zone, to 'write what they know' and put it in fresher contexts and tones.

    It seems a show about a semi-promiscuous 'playa' - Despite the oxymoron derived in using Married and Bachelor...we got that - it seems like a stereotypical character played in a nicer part of town (nice digs, dude!) is one that the rest of the world is already thinking black people are and that they have already seen.

    Just my two cents/pence.

  • James | March 16, 2012 12:14 PM

    @Don Draper & Nadine... Well said. Could not agree with you more.

  • Nadine | December 18, 2011 3:58 PM

    ...and yes, it is a shame when one has to get excited to see a Black couple on screen where they actually like each other.

  • Nadine | December 18, 2011 3:48 PM

    I completely agree...yet the only way to change Black cinema in the States is to to not have people who disdain themselves in control of the images perpetuated. I liken it to the destruction of Hip Hop, whose modern day manifestations are most authentically reflected overseas, not in the U.S.. Hip hop, an amalgamation of 1st generation Caribbean immigrants and their adaptation to American culture (melding the immigrant traits of education, community, love of one's self and history) was basically financed out of existence commercial companies who, noticing the conscious communities, their rhymes and their success coming out of the Northeast, chose to support our most vile representations. This commercial rap, only coming out of the more introspectively impoverished areas of this nation, had overwhelmingly cross-over appeal, given the money behind its marketing, convincing newbies that the only way to get ahead (paper) would be to follow the trend of self-hate through cultural genocide.

    When the U.S. had Hip Hop, we had Love Jones, Eve's Bayou, Best Man, we had Black women in R&B, we had our own style of clothing corporate and casual, we weren't copying skater dudes and rocking skulls and bones... Black women now have to look like they just walked of out Kim K's closet while plopping baywatch hair on their heads. Why? Because we have no sense of self. No cultural identity...we're broken over here. Big things have to happen and as long as we in the U.S. continue to look over the fence longing for mainstream acceptance, we will never rise. The absence of study, respect of self and craft is always evident in the writing here in the States...we need to do better and start showcasing our brilliance while MODELING healthy relationships instead of pimping hurtful fiction (playas, cray Black women with guns chasing said playas, etc...).

  • James | November 17, 2011 3:48 AMReply

    @careycarey.. wow.. 3 posts in a row.. to bad there's no delete button huh.. Im gonna take all that foaming at the mouth and nut-grabbing to mean that you have something you want to say, but I refuse to wade through all of that disrespectful nonsense to figure out exactly what it is you have to say.. This hip hop battle style of intellectual discourse is for the kids.. And I aint been a kid in quite a while. So, look.. when you settle down and get your thoughts together, hit me back with something substantive and appropriate.. I'll be sure to do the same..

    -peace.

  • CareyCarey | November 17, 2011 9:37 PM

    Artbizzy, you are an angel! You re-enforced my exact thoughts. I mean, it would have been foolish of me to say films do not inspire conversation, however as you pointed out ---> "movies tend to reflect whatever is going on in society rather than influence them" YES! Even in James' example of The Birth Of A Nation, racism was a thousand years old. The root of racism did not start there. On a similar note, (although you didn't mention it but I know you caught it) the way we as humans act and react to different stimuli, images, pain, outside influences and emotional drama, takes shape at an early age. Consequently, I was trying to express to James that the root of a personal problem and how one deals with it (vents, emotes, cries, talks to someone, isolates themselves, drinks, fights, argues, do dope, sulks, blames others, acts out, ingratiates the "negative", etc,) has been established long before they see images on the screen. Granted, unfortunately, many of us may not possess the proper skills to make rational and correct decisions, but again, it's not the fault of the movie in question. The reasons behind those faulty choices are multifaceted and they are not static ( i.e., poor education, parent-less home, poor mentoring at home, destructive home environment, no love in the home, love from the wrong places/crowd, pressure influences in the neighborhood, poor examples in the home and surrounding neighborhood, etc). In short, it all boils down to how one processes their emotions. Having said that, as you said Artbizzy, the movie, for the most part, is a reflection of the world outside. How one deals with that world, that images, and how he or she discerns right from wrong, has been establiished years before the movie hits the scene. You said: "The issue in a sense revolves around how much one is willing to deconstruct images. Whether they are on a screen or something we'€™ve seen around us and even been a part of" Yes Artbizzy. Thanks for stopping by and adding a supporting voice to this discussion.

  • artbizzy | November 17, 2011 11:59 AM

    I think at least some of what CareyCarey is trying to say (correct me if I’m wrong CC) is that movies tend to reflect whatever is going on in society rather than influence them. As far as I am concerned I agree with this but I also see where film does have a huge impact on us, too. For instance, a film could depict ghetto life in a comedic way, in ways that we can all recognize. We black folk look at it, laugh at ourselves a bit, shake our head and continue on. Some young, white suburban kid in Sweden (or black suburban kid in Westchester) looks at it, starts dressing in Hip-Hop fashion uses the lingo, wants a gun to play with and so on. So both sides are very real. It’s the chicken and egg, syndrome thing. Images matter and changing those images that overall harm us matter too. But changing the socio-economic, psychological spiritual, conditions that bring about these images matter far more. The issue in a sense revolves around how much one is willing to deconstruct images. Whether they are on a screen or something we’ve seen around us and even been a part of.

    Many people either don’t have time or take the time to think critically about the images being presented to them because many of the people presenting the images haven’t done this work themselves. So the question is can’t I just kick back from time to time to watch some good-looking brothers on the screen do their acting thing and respect myself in the morning? Does their behavior have an impact on the way I view black men? On a subconscious level it does. Still, my views didn’t arise from watching the film. Whatever beliefs I’ve held based on stereotypes, messages, experiences were instilled in me from very young. The film images reinforce that. I can laugh at them for reflecting that in a funny way I’m older now so no real harm done.

  • CareyCarey | November 17, 2011 11:06 AM

    Spare me James. So now I am being disrespectful and my style is hip hop and non-substantive. Oh, I see, so that's why you are now going for the sympathy vote. Look man, I don't know what you call your style but your words---> "you dont understand the first thing about Film"..."you are like a child playing with his father's a loaded 357 Magnum"..."you are completely and hopelessly and willfully blind"..."Did you see Birth Of A Nation? do you understand how that film was used in society?" . So please James, miss me with the disprespectful spin and stop pandering for votes. Look man, I am simply saying (and have always said) I know some movies inspire thought. But it is also my belief and knowledge that you are giving one single movie way too much credit for shaping the world around us. Human emotions and behavioral patterns simply do not work like that. Mind you, we do kneejerk but we are creatures of habit. On that note, we are also victims of learned behavior. That learning process starts when...

  • CareyCarey | November 17, 2011 3:06 AMReply

    James, what a tangled web we weave. However, now we are going somewhere, but before we do, lets consider exactly what I've said before we address your spin. 1) I said: "Granted, there ARE movies solely designed to teach a particular subject or move a self serving message ( e.g., Christian Message, Racism, Parenthood, Finance, History, etc) but folks, PLEASE, that IS NOT the goal of every film, nor should it be! If a person wishes to TEACH, do the damn thang, but please, it's woefully unjust ( and quite silly) to vilify a producer for rendering a product (COMEDY) in which some would not use as a teaching tool.

    2) Our core knowledge, morals, principles and character are gained by means such as our formal education, but more importantly, it's shaped by going through our 24/7 EXPERIENCES! Those experiences are taking shape from the day we are born by our involvement with our immediate family & friends, people, places and things that we are around - and do - on a CONTINUAL bases, again, from the DAY WE ARE BORN . Come on yawl, if a person gets their interpersonal relationship skills and core knowledge from a film, they are a dope from the jump. The seeds of personal development have been planted and fertilized LOOOONG before we take our seats in a movie theater. So Mr. James, I am suggesting that the list you provided came second. I mean, I will further illustrate why I believe you are missing a very valuable point ( in my next comment) however, I am asking you, which came first, the chicken or the egg? Which came first and what influenced our person's in question, the movies you listed or the above developmental process that I mentioned? What seeds were planted in your ambiguous naive moviegoers who may or may not have seen your movies? You saw the movies what happened to you? You are either a superior human being without character defects ( not like all those other low-lifes who watched those movies) who is not affected by the world around him or YOUR THEORY IS LEAKING. Or maybe you ARE a SuperFly Scarface GangBanging Pimp on the low-low? Consider that before you rally around your theories. Btw, you do know you are standing in quicksand - don't you? Read on my good man.

  • CareyCarey | November 17, 2011 1:05 AMReply

    And Mr. James , The Reporter Man, the optimum word in constructive criticism is CONSTRUCTIVE! So please, do not confuse nor try to classify all criticisms, vents, hater-aid, BS and porous opinions as constructive criticism. If you do, you might get pimp slapped b/c someone might take you as a zip damn fool whose trying to running drag ( cheap game). Nobody appreciates being taken for granted.

  • CareyCarey | November 17, 2011 12:11 AMReply

    There were no Crips and Bloods in Little Rock Arkansas before the gang warfare commercial disguised as a film "Colors" came out.. ~ James. Have you ever been in Little Rock? I have. Have you ever been in a gang or been arrested for a serious crime or interviewed a few locked up black men to see how movies have affected their life? Where you raised in a 2 parent home? Did you see any of the movies you listed? How did that work for YOU?! Brother man, brother man, you are starting to sound like a school yard reporter. Look, I say that because I have been on the ground in respect to that subject matter so please do not spout theories to me. The whole drug and gang culture WERE NOT the immediate results of a damn movie. Stop talking about shit you have not lived. YES, I saw Birth of a Nation and Superfly AND Scarface AND Colors. AND?! And how old are you Mr. Theorist Reporter Man? Please, I sure did see the resulting impact on society because I lived it. What about you? I mean, again, why don't you tell us what you believe was the impact b/c I was a young man walking the streets when those movie hit the block. So please stop (you are playing yourself) because tricks are for kids and those who are easily impressed. You are speaking on matters you have only read about. You are talking like a puppet. Bring me the head of the man who said Superfly inspired him to sell dope and pimp women. Bring me the head of the fool who went out and rape his daughter after viewing Precious? Who do you know that acquired a heroin habit after watching Ray? My brotha, my brotha, it's strange that you have only given poruous illustrations of Black Movies to advance your position. Yet isn't it even stranger that there are thousands of White films...THOUSANDS, my man, that depict white people in the most deployable, heinous, filthy, drug scenes, sex scenes, crime scenes and despicable conditions, but yet, I hear silence. Why don't you tell me Mr. Preacherman reporter, how Ted Demmes BLOW affected white society? How about Marin Scorses and The Goodfellas, Alfred Hitchcock & Psyco, Mel Brooks & Men in Tights -huh? Lets continue...Abel Ferrara & Bad Lieutenant, James Wan & SAW I & II to the tenth degree *STOP* Tell me Mr. Junior Ed Bradley, how did those movie influence white society - huh? OOOOH, are you still slightly confused, are you still reading Theory Of The Film by Bela Belazs 1945? Yeah, you said it, WAKE UP! But if you are still writing your college thesis or your nose is still stuck in the air, let me remind you about the following white people in movies. There is Adam Sandler & Deuce Bigalow & Zohan. How about The Hangover, have you seen any of those white people in your neighborhood? Wait a second Mr. Up_On_Everything_There_Is_To_Know_About_Black_Cinema... should we talk about white folks in comedies and how they affect their world? Maybe you are a film student so I am sure you have seen a few white folks in drag - huh? Well, take a walk back. Jack Lemon & Tony Curtis in Some Like It Hot. OooWeee, I shiver to think of all the white folks who put on pink panties after watching that film! And damit, there is more. Robin Williams & Mrs. Doubtfire comes to mind. And lawdy , lawdy. I wonder how many white businessmen went looking for a job while wearing a dress after sitting through 2 hours of Ductin Hoffman & Tootsie? Shit, those damn actors and that freaking director of To Wong Foo Thanks For Everything (i.e., Wesley Snipes, Patrick Swayze, John Leguizam) needs their asses kick for teaching and influencing white kids on how to pop that thang to the floor, right? *STOP* Mr. Jesse James, can you now see how you are shooting silly ghost blanks. Besides, game is made to be sold and not told, but your card was peeped when you came in the door. I am not going to call you a shift-shaker nor a ghost buster but this conversation started on the simple fact that Marquis Smalls production is a web series comedy. Then some fools ran up in here preaching to the man about integrity, teaching tools and trash. In short Mr. Psychology 101, you can take that bullshit to a kindergarten sandbox, b/c I know you do not know what the fk you are talking about. At the very least, you have bought into an ideology that you can not support with solid data and reason. Please, you implied that the movies you listed lead to the drug epidemic and gang violence. REALLY!? - where did you get that shit? And Scarface did what?! You need a new kind of drug. Preach to the choir and miss grown folks with your message. Walk the walk brothaman and then come back and holla. Wait, you said you are a writer. Well, heads-up, I am suggesting you should write about something that you know or at least something you have lived through. And then, at least, you can speak from first person. You can tell us how a particular movie inspired you and shaped your values and character. Again, right now, as it stands, as we speak, YOU are shooting blanks Mr. Puppet Man-Reporter Man, Mr. Reader of Bela Belazs 1945. Run out and purchase a little game, or a book on life and a couple of comic books! Opps, comedy and comic books are evil messengers *STOP!*

  • James | November 16, 2011 8:25 PMReply

    @CAREYCAREY.. you said, "Look, our core knowledge is gained by our formal education, but more importantly it's shaped by going through our 24/7 EXPERIENCES! NOT a damn movie. Those experiences are shaped by our immediate family & friends, people, places and things that we are around - and do - on a continual bases, not a 2 hour damn movie."

    So, did you see Birth of a Nation? or Superfly? or Scarface? or Colors? and did you see the resulting impact on society? In fact the bulk of the degrading images of black folks have come through so-called Comedy.. The category of a film makes no difference whatsoever.. Minstrel shows were comedy.. And they were not just insulting.. They actually had an impact on our lives in America. If you don't think people are more influenced by film and television then by school, you dont understand the first thing about Film. And if you are involved in Film and do not understand it's power, you are like a child playing with his father's a loaded 357 Magnum.. And if you don't understand how important constructive criticism is to the development of Art or any other discipline.. good constructive criticism is an act of respect. Asking black folks to just uniformly "support" anything that black folks do without any rights to comment on the content is just lunacy.

    "A picture is worth a thousand words".. the saying goes.. how about 30 pictures every second with connections to one another that the mind must interpret along with sound and light effects and volume effects? How many words is that worth? A 2 hour movie is roughly 216,000 images.. that would make a two hour film worth 216 Million words.. wouldn't it?

    If you don't think music videos that show cool young black folks smoking dope or drinking alcohol.. with tatoos covering their whole body, talking about selling dope and killing folks has an impact on what is happening in the streets, then you are completely and hopelessly and willfully blind.

    Each of those movies I listed had a direct impact on the streets.. on the ways that people thought.. on the way they acted.. There were no Crips and Bloods in Little Rock Arkansas before the gang warfare commercial disguised as a film "Colors" came out.. There were groups protesting that film before it hit theaters because the knew what impact it would have on the nation.. and look what happened right after that film came out.. I don't know how old you are but time in the game is a serious advantage when it comes to recognizing game. Let me end this academically with a quote from a very well respected Film theorist..

    "> We all know and admit that film art has the greatest influence on the minds of the general public than any other art. The official guardians of culture note the fact with a certain amount of regret and uneasiness. But too few of us are sufficiently alive to the dangers that are an inevitable consequence of this fact. Nor do we realize clearly enough that we must be better connoisseurs of film if we are not to be as much at the mercy of perhaps the greatest intellectual and spiritual influence of our age as to some blind and irresistible elemental force. And unless we study its laws and possibilities very carefully, we shall not be able to control and direct this potentially greatest instrument of mass influence ever devised in the whole course of human history." - from Theory Of The Film by Bela Belazs 1945.

    Wake up..

  • U of I Alum | November 16, 2011 1:26 AMReply

    Marquis:
    Brother, if only you had put as much time, thought and effort into creating a quality -- and funny -- web series as you've put into responding to its many critics -- you'd actually have something that would make people eager to see recurring episodes of your web work. Your personal attacks on me? I found 'em laughable; your ignorance of who wrote "Native Son" is predictable; and the shallowness and insignificance of your little man/boy web series -- along with your entire oeuvre (including that god-awful Harriet Tubman fiasco -- her estate should sue!), if you will, as a filmmaker, does not warrant 33 comments (so far) on Tambay's outstanding S & A message board.
    Brother, please, I'd suggest continuing to "work your butt" to get there -- because, trust us, and I speak for all your dissenters when I say this: YOU ARE NOT THERE YET!

  • Tony Clomax | November 17, 2011 1:38 AM

    Wow, you folks go in on this board. Hey, as filmmakers, we create something and put it out for the public to watch, enjoy, critique, etc. Some will love it, some will like it, some will pass on it and others will flat out hate it. There's an audience for every product. I like to put my work out there and let it speak for itself. If the audience want to have a dialog about it, cool. One thing I won't do is debate about how people react to it. Leave that to the critics and audience to do. The folks on this thread are just the ones I'd like to put my work in their view and let them react to it. It'll give me great feedback to become a better filmmaker. You can catch 8 episodes of 12-Steps to Recovery here. http://www.koldcast.tv/show/12-steps-recovery After that, come to www.facebook.com/12stepswebseries and let me have it, good or bad. If you enjoy these 8 episodes, I'll direct you the the following 8. At the end of the day, as creators we must create.

  • Marquis | November 15, 2011 10:25 PMReply

    Thanks Tambay and the entire Shadow and Act Team for sharing work from an up and coming writer/filmmaker/showrunner who has worked his butt off to get here. I truly appreciate you all and your support of "our" peoples Art.

  • Akimbo | November 15, 2011 1:06 PMReply

    No strong feelings on this one. Found it kind of dull, but I'd watch it one more time to get a better sense of what the show is about.

  • Marquis | November 15, 2011 10:22 PM

    Thanks Akimbo. You can check out the next episode on youtube now. More to come soon.

  • Kentay305 | November 15, 2011 9:10 AMReply

    ummm isnt this the first episode??? We can agree on the content being a bit better but like it or not thats going on today...the same ones running the episode through the coals are digitally flashing their parts to folks as well... glass house people glass house. the couple flashed a bit of chemistry there. they need longer dialog instead of the setup coming from his boys. anyway the clip looks very nice and im hoping to see more of it.

  • Marquis | November 15, 2011 10:21 PM

    Thanks Kentay305 - Glad you watched it and enjoyed it. There are definitely more layers that will be revealed in coming episodes. Episode 2 is up on Youtube and Uniteddiaspora.com so please check it out.

  • James | November 15, 2011 12:46 AMReply

    Well shot.. Nice and even.. Beautiful browns.. Gutter content though.. Further evidence that many black folks don't understand the power of film.. Nor the way film is used in society. Reminds me of something James Baldwin said, " if something is done to you long enough and well enough, you begin doing it to yourself".. Black folks have been portrayed so poorly. In cinema for so long that we now do us how they once did us.. It really is a shame.

  • Marquis | November 18, 2011 9:16 AM

    @ Landlocked - I was referring to "Baldwin's essays, for instance "Notes of a Native Son" (1955), explore palpable yet unspoken intricacies of racial, sexual, and class distinctions in Western societies, most notably in mid-20th century America" when I referenced that and should have used the full title so my apologies for Misleading as everyone knows that Richard Wright wrote Native Son and Uncle Tom's Children among other great works. My point was that at their time had they been subjected to internet critique, I'm sure that both Baldwin and Wright would have gotten some of the same types of mis-informed comments that I've read on this blog for quite some time on so many topics.

  • CareyCarey | November 16, 2011 12:19 PM

    OOOOOOooooWEEeeeeeee, yawl killing me... and that is a good thang. Marquis, do you see what you started *smiling & LOL*. This here S & A can be a challenging place and this board is not for the weak of heart. Well, as you have obviously seen, if a brotha makes one small slip (incorrect author) the focus might shift, which forces us to take our eyes off the prize. But I am back to give you added support b/c in the shift of paradigms, the central point is being kicked to the curb. First and foremost, to James and others, let me remind all of you that Marquis is presenting a product that would fall under the category of a COMEDY, OKAY. And only those who have actually walked his path ( a filmmaker, writer, director) can really appreciate the time, effort and costs it takes to get a product off the ground and in front of their target audience. Most fail before the even get off the ground. Somewhere in the planning process or midway through the overall process, something breaks down. So, through the door, why don't we sit that wee bit of understanding square on the table. So please, spare us the trite and ambiguous and frequently mis-used rhetoric of how movies are teaching tools and propaganda, lets not even go there. Granted, it goes without question that Birth Of A Nation had a specific goal in mind. Teaching tool? Propaganda?... YES YES YES. The Married Bachelor? Teaching Tool? Propaganda? NO-NO-NO-A- THOUSAND TIMES NO! It's a web series comedy yawl! Listen, if those who appose this type of artistic expression believes that, before a producer/director/writer sits down to do their thang, they should first consider the propaganda and teaching tool angle, I would say we have lost that loving feeling, or we have lost our minds. Look, our core knowledge is gained by our formal education, but more importantly it's shaped by going through our 24/7 EXPERIENCES! NOT a damn movie. Those experiences are shaped by our immediate family & friends, people, places and things that we are around - and do - on a continual bases, not a 2 hour damn movie. Come on yawl, if a person gets their interpersonal relationship skills and core knowledge from a film, they are a dope from the jump. The seeds of personal development have been planted and fertilized long before we take our seats in a movie theater. Granted, there are movies solely designed to teach a particular subject or move a self serving message ( e.g., Christian Message, Racism, Parenthood, Finance, History, etc) but folks, PLEASE, that is not the goal of every film, nor should it be! If a person wishes to TEACH, do the damn thang, but please, it's woefully unjust ( and quite silly) to vilify a producer for rendering a product (COMEDY) in which some would not use as a teaching tool. But check that -TOO. Marquis has given us a product that many CAN learn from. Inspiring writers, directors and filmmaker can learn from his journey, which includes the aforementioned struggles, and just what is happening today. That is, they should be fully aware that there will always be naysayers, shift-shakers, doubt makers, chronic arm-chair cynics and quasi-intellectuals who will sit back and blow smoke up the ass of the unwise. Marquis, do yo thang boy, you are on the right road. Every closed eye and silent voice is not sleep. The cream comes to the top, slugs fall to the bottom.

  • James | November 16, 2011 3:31 AM

    @Marquis.. Well, The Fire Next Time is Non-Fiction.. it's a series of Essays.. you should read it.. and Native Son is by Richard Wright, who I don't like as much but you should read that too.. and also, I recommend "If Beale Street Could Talk" by James Baldwin.. you should make a movie out of that.. but only after you truly understand it.. And also, Percival Everett's "I'm Not Sydney Poitier".. you should make a movie or series out of that too..
    And no, I would not have reacted to James Baldwin's work that way, nor Richard Wright's either... their is a depth and an Artistry to their work that is missing in so much of what I see in Black cinema.. As far as my "Gutter" remark.. that was just hyperbole.. it was conversationally expedient.. you know how we talk on the internet.. it just indicates my dissatisfaction with the content of the film. I had no idea you would be here.. othewise I would have been a bit more diplomatic.. Anyway.. I have very high expectations for black filmmakers and that sometimes.. well, mostimes gets in the way of my interpretations of black filmworks.. I'm a writer myself and so I have quite a bit to say about these things.. things I actually should be saying more through my own art and less through criticisms of other peoples art.. but one of my literary fathers, Ralph Ellison, continually reminds me of the need for both the work and the criticism. All in all, movie cameras in black hands can be a good thing.. it can.. But why not connect yourself to the depth and breadth of black Art.. particularly Black literature? Why use these shallow stereotypical sketches of people and situations?.. why not dive deeper and do something important through Film?

    Film is not merely entertainment.. it is an intellectual vehicle that has the potential to change minds and hearts.. to motivate.. to teach.. to lead.. etc.. Did you see Birth Of A Nation? do you understand how that film was used in society? And how it impacted the lives of your people in America? Film is not Entertainment.. ( uh.. gotta run.. to be continued.. ) op2mizm@gmail.com

  • LandLocked | November 16, 2011 1:05 AM

    Marquis,
    Uh, no, James Baldwin did not write Native Son. That would be Richard Wright; he, of course, is from Mississippi.

  • Marquis | November 15, 2011 10:20 PM

    Oh, and my apologies. Thanks for the compliments on the "well shot" "nice and even" and "Beautiful browns" critiques. I appreciate that. Thanks again.

  • Marquis | November 15, 2011 10:18 PM

    @ james - gutter content? You watched 4 professional black brothers, all with jobs, talking in a BLACK owned coffe shop in Brooklyn. A married professional couple engaged in and loving towards one another, and a husband who doesn't cheat on his wife even though he gets it thrown at him. Where's the gutter content? And since you want to quote Baldwin, didn't he write Native Son and the Fire Next Time? Were they gutter content? Wasn't he born in Harlem, which some consider the gutter? From your post, I can surely bet that had you lived when Baldwin released his great novels, you would have more than likely had the same opinion as you do now of my show. Because I'm sure that I have more in common with Baldwin as a creator of art and great work than you do, no matter how much negative criticism you spew. Thanks for watching the show though. Feel free to come back if you would like to be enlightened further.

  • MiddleMyatt | November 15, 2011 1:07 AM

    James, brother -- where have you been, man? I don't think I could've said it better. Wholeheartedly agree! And love the on-the-money Baldwin quote!

  • Micah | November 15, 2011 12:57 AM

    Um on what line do I co-sign on, because I'm there with you.

  • Micah | November 15, 2011 12:05 AMReply

    It's awesome that there is another portrayal of how black people don't believe in marriage or being faithful one bit. A whole table of black men sit down and the only one reason one of them can think of to not cheat on his wife is because the girls might meet.

    Aside from that the lines are recycled from every other poorly slapped together "comedy". Most of the acting is barely approaching mediocre.

    I could forgive the poor acting and writing if the basic concept wasn't so offensive. (Really no black people on the planet respect their own or other peoples relationships at all. All of us are just chomping at the bit to cheat our significant others with barely any provocation. Not even attempting to fight temptation.)

    I could possibly forgive the offensive concept if the writing, directing and acting were clever. If you are going to go down this road at least make it fresh, insightful or clever.

  • Marquis | November 15, 2011 10:07 PM

    @ Micah - Where have you been? AMERICA doesn't believe in marriage anymore. Not just black people. Wake up brother. You been sleeping. And don't try to read into the rationale for why a man won't cheat. Just acknowledge that THIS character in this show DOESN'T cheat. Comedy itself is always "re-cycled" which is what makes it funny and I say to you the same thing I said to U of I alum, your "offense" to the show must be a personal issue OR an admission that you just don't know any black people who live like this. Which is fine, because we all have our own experiences and I do in fact know people like this and I know for a fact that there are men who take pics of their privates and send them out to people. I've never done it but it doesn't stop me from writing about it or directing it in a funny way. And your last comment, please....fresh? When was the last time you even saw 4 professional black men talk to each other in a show or movie? Insightful? When was the last time you actually were let in on what some real (straight) black men think or even talk about in a movie or TV show? and finally...clever? When have you ever seen a black writer take a common public news story like sending pics of one's manhood and weave it into a funny episode that involved black folk? watch it again, maybe you'll learn something.

  • JMac | November 14, 2011 7:09 PMReply

    Looks the video version of the VSB blog, lol. And no, the only women who would like or respond to that mess are in serious need of penicillin and sex abuse counseling. On an unrelated note, was that WH NYC summit the same one some poster tried to knock over others' heads as a badge of superiority on the Django thread?

  • H Tubman | November 17, 2011 5:23 PM

    LOL, thanks Carey! I meant to say, "widely received". I consider your support of my opinion well-received, for sure.

    On another note, the inmates are running the asylum on the Shame thread again. I chuckle at the absurdity of the keyboard cops.

  • CareyCarey | November 17, 2011 11:22 AM

    "What I've shared thusfar isn't well-received (by anyone willing to verbalize publically), so why is the presumption made?" ~ H Tubman, take 10 deep breaths because I love ya baby. You are my favorite female commenter. When I see your name pop-up, I know I am about to read something intelligent, insightful, concise and possibly humorous as hell. If I had your hand I would throw mine away.

  • H Tubman | November 17, 2011 9:49 AM

    You either do not understand human behavior or simply don't care. First, why would I share information with people who proclaim to be disgusted by such facts? Why would you even be engrossed in the details if you are upset by the ones you currently hold? This is what is confusing to me about people; they say they're not going to see a film, encourage others to boycott, talk nastily about it...but please give me more info with which to be offended! "Nemeis" has proven my point with her statement in the Django thread that knowing Reginald Hudlin was involved "doesn't make me feel any better about the script, just more disappointed". Second, if I were to share all knowledge I have, it wouldn't be on a public blog such as this. Sorry. I belong to several online groups where screenwriters, actors, filmmakers, and producers assist and share. The groups are made of people from various stages in their career in the industry; from beginners who've never taken a class, to actors who've been featured on this site, to an author whose book is being turned into a film by Fox Searchlight (Go Helena Andrews!). There is a privacy component that I'm comfortable with, and others are too. Also, you can't possibly speak for everyone. I realize you are the self-appointed moderator for the comments section, but who says anyone is looking to hear what I have to say? What I've shared thusfar isn't well-received (by anyone willing to verbalize publically), so why is the presumption made? Furthermore, it's disingenous and tantamount to asking the prosecutor and defense attorney to compare notes. I say, go get your own British Petroleum to spray on the fire. However, there is a piece to the puzzle I will share, since it is public knowledge and not intellectual property. You mentioned that Reginald's involvment is not accessible via the world wide web, so allow me to be your Magellan. Attacks on Reg will begin in 5, 4, 3, 2... http://www.hudlinentertainment.com/pages/media_items/django-unchained348.php

  • JMac | November 16, 2011 12:16 AM

    @ Marquis. Thanks but no thanks. Black folk can talk all day about historical figures and there will be no common consensus except that the person lived and died - and even that may be thrown into debate. Just concentrate on improving your craft.

  • JMac | November 16, 2011 12:07 AM

    @- H Tubman: Now, you know it had less with what you said but how you said it. It certainly wasn't in the tone of being helpful or informative. Someone posted an opinion and you went off for no reason. I gave you the benefit of the doubt that you were just informing that person and felt a bit passionate over that movie. So I tried to engage you in being a little more collegial by giving you the opportunity to post more about something you felt so compelled to express in the first place - but in a non-confrontational way. Obviously, that didn't work. It's a black blog so I don't like off-limits, childish, or smart ass behavior being flung in anyone's direction when it isn't warranted. I don't like it when some posters call Tyler Perry a coon but I posted about that some time ago. This should be a place where people can learn from each other and spread information since we all desire the same goal. You can bet if I have info that someone here may find useful or will correct a misconception, I'll post it in a respectful manner and for free (just for the heck of it) and so would just about anyone else here who visits on a regular basis - if they're allowed to post such info. So again, it's not about jealousy and it's not about being right or wrong. It's about being respectful. As to the last line, you're preaching to the choir.

  • Marquis | November 15, 2011 9:58 PM

    @ J-Mac - You may want to do a little more research on Harriet Tubman and if you would like, I can send you the short film I did about her, just send me your email address. Mine is hgfilms@aol.com. @ H-Tubman - you are right when you say that "Harriet Tubman did not believe in low morale amongst blacks, and when someone griped she put a revolver to their temple." Continue to spread the word my (I'm assuming) sister and let them know that some of us WILL create our own freedom. Much like I'm doing with my show. Again, thanks for watching.

  • H Tubman | November 15, 2011 2:52 PM

    Pump the brakes. First off, you're mashing 2 issues together, so let's discuss them apart. I told "Nemesis" on the Django thread that she should've consulted w/ the Hudlins' at the summit to confirm her incorrect supposition. Why would knowing about the black cinema tribute, a forum that Tambay informed every reader about, be placing myself on a higher echelon than others? You're not even logical. It's one thing to be angry that I was right in the minor melee, yet your envy becomes apparent when names are thrown towards me because I was correct. Give it a few weeks; I'm sure I'll turn back to human form and be mistaken about something, so you can breathe a huge sigh of relief. Oh, and I wish you all would stop trying to decipher my noms de plume. Harriet Tubman did not believe in low morale amongst blacks, and when someone griped she put a revolver to their temple. That is the who I am; I only help those who know how to free themselves first, not those whining and waiting for Massa to free them.

  • JMac | November 15, 2011 1:33 PM

    Not jealous. Just an honest assessment. Somehow I doubt the real Harriet Tubman would say "yes, I know how to help you escape up North, but you gotta pay me first. After all, most of this is public knowledge anyway."

  • H Tubman | November 15, 2011 11:36 AM

    Badge of superiority? For a public event that everyone and their momma can attend? Typical jealous ramblings.

  • U of I Alum | November 14, 2011 6:09 PMReply

    This series appears to contain so little substance, I'm compelled to question why they put the effort into it. Are black men really that shallow -- men their ages -- men, period? As a married man, I'm offended by the portrayals -- and will not be supporting this trash!

    Please try again. Next!

  • James | November 16, 2011 11:34 PM

    Testing.. seeing if I can make my post more readable..
    test test test

  • Marquis | November 15, 2011 9:53 PM

    @ U of I Alum - It's interesting that your comments take such a negative approach to what is a comedy. If you had said you didn't laugh at all or you saw no funny moments or characters then I may have taken your thoughts seriously. But the fact that all you see is an opportunity to question whether men are "that shallow" then you must not watch many movies or TV shows. I can site "Shallow Hal" "Entourage" "Half Baked" "Cooley High" "School Daze" "Married with Children" "Friends" "A Different World" and many other examples of movies and shows that have had shallow male characters at their center. I understand as the creator of the show that in order to help us develop as a people we must first engage the audience in a way that brings them into that world first so that we can allow the characters and stories to grow into a more well rounded context. To be "offended" as you say must reflect on your own dirty laundry that you harbor as why would you be offended by something that you clearly can't relate to? Are you offended by the "American Pie" franchise or any Judd Apatow comedies? Or even the Hangover? Do they offend you? Your support is not necessary and I clearly never intended to satisfy everyone with this show. It is my attempt to excite, entertain and enlighten the MEN and WOMEN who can relate so that we can enjoy our experiences and learn to live, love and laugh about the many funny situations that can arise when one is in a committed relationship and their single friends/family still believe that they can do the same things that they did when they were single with no recourse. That's what the show is about so if that offends you then so be it, but again I say it probably has more to do with the skeletons in your closet than the actual content of the show. Deal with your inner demons first. OR make a show that you feel will satisfy YOUR needs. There are so many stories to tell and the problem that I see with most black people who want to be critics of black art is that they carry too much of the internal baggage and self hate with them. Maybe I don't pay attention but I haven't seen any outrage or offense from white folks about "HUNG" or even "Weeds" but that's what they say about "US" in Hollywood. That we can't even appreciate ourselves enough to love the work that our people do. Instead, all we want to do is tear each other down. You keep doing you though my brother 'cause I'm a definitely keep doing me and my show. Thanks for watching though.

  • U of I Alum | November 15, 2011 8:05 PM

    We are cool, indeed. And much respect for your opinions and the manner in which you so eloquently express them. Funny, though: we mentioned "Nothing But A Man" -- it was actually produced and directed by -- all of people -- some German guys. But I'm gonna close by flipping it for a moment: What if some German guys produced and directed this project? Brother, you and I both would instantly find the common ground, meet somewhere with the other masses of outraged conscious brothers, take hands and march through the streets to protest. "How dare they portray us in proud black, responsible fathers and community leaders in such a derogatory and demeaning way?" --we'd all chant. However, ironically, when we do it to ourselves, inexplicably, it becomes acceptable? I ain't sure I like that double standard (not because I want to defend the German guys: I simply want to hold us, our own creative minds--directors, producers, screenwriters, etc.--to a higher standard. And if not higher, I'll settle for one we are simply not ashamed of!) Peace, to you, CC.

  • CareyCarey | November 15, 2011 6:34 PM

    U OF I ALUM, apology accepted. For the most part b/c of my loud voice and aggressive style of argument, I have found myself in many scuffle on this board. Most that I have had heated debates with have managed to go forward and find a common ground - we are cool. Through it all I understand the necessity of push-backs and name calling ( I do it myself). So yeah, we are cool - too. RE: my vernacular, I write like I talk, but yes, I could have used a different choice of words ----> "We've done better" and "We can do better!". RE: Nothing But A Man, yeah, I still have that on VHS :-) in fact, the last time I mention it, someone on this board brought to my attention that Abbey Lincoln is the women who played opposite Sidney Poitier in For The Love Of Ivy. She also played young Denzel’s mother in Spike’s Mo Better Blues. RE: Do we need more fluff? Well, I believe that depends on who you ask. More importantly, one man’s fluff is another man’s treasure and who am I to define how a person should or could or does receive their core defining messages of life, love and fatherhood. I have my opinion on that issue, but this board, this comment section is not the place. I will say, I, personally, do not believe they come from a movie.

  • U of I Alum | November 15, 2011 5:27 PM

    CareyCarey, apologies for the sellout comment. All's I'm saying now: If you've been on the frontlines, walked the walk, and put the work in for the race, don't stop now, brother. We, I, all of us -- especially our young brothers and sisters -- need your wise and crucial voice, not to say, "They working with something..." --- but to instead say, "We've done better" and "We can do better!" Remember "Nothing But A Man" with Ivan Dixon? This little project seems the antithesis of that. And again, I know I'm going too deep in on the TMB project, but one of the qualities that makes a good filmmaker is his/her relevance and willingness to provide us what we need to see on screen right now -- and do that creatively (in his or her own way). Question is: do we really, really need more fluff that portrays of men as pu**y and Penis obsessed little boys in a grade school locker room -- even our married men?!!!

  • CareyCarey | November 15, 2011 7:36 AM

    @ Micah, I hear you and I understand.

    @ U OF I ALUM, I see we are at the place in which you side-step the main issue and psychoanalyze me, call me names and make false assumptions. That’s old game and I can go there with you but look, I am only defending the right of a person to produce any form of art he or she desires, without them being assaulted for something YOU would not pay your money to see, PERIOD. That’s the American way. It’s called freedom of expression. I am not embracing every product I defend on this site. Hell, I would not spend another minute of my time watching another segment of The Married Bachelor who takes pictures of his dick. I was championing their effort. So I believe you have been clouding my point or missing it. Check this out...this was my opening statement----------------------->alright...they working with something. First the script is something most people can relate to *stop* I did not say most people do it. HOWEVER, AGAIN, it’s blatantly obvious that people take pictures of their private parts and send the photos to others. I believe it’s safe to assume that act happens hundreds of times a day. More importantly, that’s our starting point.... some people find that funny ( I don‘t! ). In fact, as I mentioned before, Senator Weiner was the butt of thousands of jokes - for about 2 MONTHS - AFTER THE NEWS BROKE. So brother, don’t preach to me about standing on the front lines.... paying dues.... and not being a sell-out. From our short conversation, I do not believe you could walk in these shoes. Anybody can write a line or two expressing their love for their fellow black man and wax poetically about the future of our youth. But walking the talk is another ball game. See you at the movies.

  • Micah | November 15, 2011 1:01 AM

    CareyCarey I truly respect your passion for film and even more I respect what I know of your life journey but I'm going to have to agree with U of I on this one. Carey perhaps someone with your life experience and insight could write something a bit more insightful than this.

  • U of I Alum | November 14, 2011 11:48 PM

    CareyCarey, I laughed so hard at your typically long-winded response, I almost didn't make it beyond "ingratiated by millions." Question my blackness, and disparage my obvious education -- that all you got? That's too obvious; I was helping you out: the "Proper Negro" response would've saved you so much time. Then, you could've gotten right back to your routine defenses of Tyler Perry movies! I cut my own hair. And still insist black men don't act like that -- at least not the "boring" ones I know! Admit they're "Baby Boys" and shame the devil, my friend. In the name of supporting all things black, even respectable, wise and well-informed men like yourself have embraced this culture of low-standards that is now killing our race, our people. I know, I know -- it ain't that serious. It's just a fun little web series about a married bachelor -- something our community definitely needs to see more of, right? I pity the generations to come after us, my friend (and we're not so distinct in age, either). You've sold out -- that's right, CareyCarey, I'm calling you a sellout -- the worst kind: a sellout who doesn't even realize he's sold out!

  • CareyCarey | November 14, 2011 10:40 PM

    U OF I ALUM, I am so happy you returned b/c I love talking to intelligent people and I love talking about movies and my family. First, don't make you move too soon - keep your hands on your new Mac b/c I was married for 35 years...and I have children around your age. My wife passed away from cancer. Second, I do not adore defending underdog-ish BS, whatever that is. I do however love defending an artist's right to deliver their own personal means of expression. Consequently, I do not understand how you were offended by the portrayals in this web series. Seriously, as I mentioned in my previous comment - which you appeared to try to minimize -this form of artistic expression - and entertainment - is ingratiated by millions. If you didn't like it, nor appreciate it, what right do you have to call it trash? I mean, yes, you have a right to voice your opinion, but I have to remind you that you are also responsible for your opinion, which might bring you accolades or the evil eye. I say that - for the most part - because you implied a few things that are simply not true. For instance, I do not know where you get your hair cut or if you are even a black man, however, every black barber shop is not some ignorant-ass barbershop in the hood! And every black barbershop in the hood is not an ignorant-ass place where only the underbellies of society hang out. I used that analogy because many barbershops are a safe haven of sorts. It's a good ol' boys club where men frequently say things in which they would not say around respectable women. Yes, GROWN MEN do exchange lies and speak on their sexual escapades in barbershops, locker rooms, basketball courts, lunch rooms, their cars, at the water cooler and at their friends homes while watching Monday night football (man cave). This has nothing to do with a person's educational background nor his financial status. It's about conversations men have while sitting around talking with their friends. You said you do not have, nor accept friends of this nature, which is fine with me. And I would never take a picture of my Johnson and send it to another person (they are called private parts) but it's a fact that grown men do partake in such activities. Heck, grown men have sex with multiple partners and many married men have a chick on the side. In fact, did not a U.S. senator recently get busted and lose his job for tweeting his pecker? Furthermore, this has little or nothing to do with a person's age! Well, maybe it does if a person is stuck in a child's mindset and thus believes that if the world is not catering to their whims, desires or way of life, then they should cry bloody murder and call everything outside their world - trash - and undesirable behavior. In short, the name of this web series is THE MARRIED BACHELOR. That alone should tell you something. I am suggesting that maybe you should stop watching Ice Cube's barbershop movies - take a deep breath - and loosen up. Thanks for the conversation.

  • U of I Alum | November 14, 2011 9:19 PM

    CareyCarey, brother, sometimes I think you simply love defending underdog-ish BS!
    Next, I guess you'll call me a "proper Negro" - a la Al Sharpton, for not keeping it
    real, hanging out at some ignorant-ass barbershop in the hood, where grown-ass men
    sit around conversing as if they were little boys. GROWN MEN AIN'T SUPPOSED TO
    ACT LIKE THAT, BROTHER! Black or white! Hell, no, I've never heard of grown men
    I know sending pictures of their penises! You can't be my friend if you do such things,
    that's the number 1 criteria for friendship with me -- that, and, you have to act your
    freaking age! I shutter to think what the men in that series would instill in their male
    children, their daughters! I know it's just entertainment, but can't we do a little better?
    Can't we try to take it up a notch or two -- raise the bar just slightly? Damn! And no, my
    wife of 25 years isn't a rubber doll, and I'm not a prude -- and yes, if I gauged my healthy
    marriage by your sad, sorry standard it would indeed be in jeopardy. (I'd be willing to wager
    my new Mac that you ain't married! You still on that "Baby Boy" tip, Bro!) And man, I'm the shallow one? Wow!~

  • CareyCarey | November 14, 2011 7:24 PM

    REALLY!?... SERIOUSLY!?... Do men act like what? You are kidding, right? Come on now, you mean to tell me you have never heard of men sending photos of their pee-pees? And, do not tell me you have never danced around - in front of your wife - with your underwear on? Come on, so you have also never been to a black barber shop and heard brothas talk about their sexual escapades? So excuse me, but you must be living with a rubber doll or you are a prude who lives in a dark cave on the moon. Besides, what kind of substance were you looking for? Don't tell me you are trying to get your doctorate degree from youtube? Might I remind you that this is entertainment, not a college exam. Geeez, talk about being shallow. Keep it up and you might not be married too much longer b/c boring people run folks away. Holy Mackerel U OF ALUM.

  • CareyCarey | November 14, 2011 4:13 PMReply

    alright...they working with somethin. First the script is something most people can relate to. You know, brothas jivin and telling lies about their...ahh...JOHNSONS, and sexual conquests. And on the flip side, women acting all innocent and thangs, pretending that they don't talk about their own sexual journeys... and hunger for sex just as much as dudes. On the acting tip, the actors in this series gets my B. The brotha who played ball in the street shoes (imo) was the smoothest. He seemed the most natural. The brotha who had NOT hit (it) in a while needs a little work on his delivery. His lines did not seem to come from his comfort zone. Lastly, the writing was good, yet the editing was a little rough on the edges (the transitions were somewhat abrupt) but overall, the series appears to have a nice entertainment and laugh quotient.

  • Marquis | November 15, 2011 9:38 PM

    @ CareyCarey - Thank you for your first comment "alright..they working with something" Your entire understanding of the process and effort that goes along with producing a comedy show are spot on and greatly appreciated. It's hard enough to break into the television industry as an African-American producer that wants to show real depictions of who we are in as many spectrums as possible. I applaud you in your later posts for educating other "critics" on where your thoughts came from and sghowing that although some of our "own people" think that they know all and their are no other experiences but theirs to share with the world that you totally understand what goes into developing a show and atleast gave us credit for DOING and not just TALKING/WRITING about it. Thanks so much.

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