Suzanne, you've been with the film since Xavier approached you during the filming of “J'ai Tué Ma Mère.” What changed, if anything, from back then to the finished product now?
SC: Oh God, my memory is so bad. [Laughs] I know some things have changed. You know, the main story never changed that much, just smaller things. I remember when we go to the island [in Montreal for a snow-covered romantic getaway]; the first place we were supposed to go was the desert in Arizona. And I was so disappointed when the locations changed.
Because of the U-turn in temperature?
SC: Exactly. Actually, that whole part of the movie did change quite a bit… We were scripted as going together, then Fred was supposed to leave, Laurence ended up staying there. And it was like that Harvey Keitel movie -- because Xavier is inspired also by what we love -- it was a bit like that one with Kate Winslet…
SC: Yes! So Xavier, he's really… he loves his women friends, so when he heard that from me, I think he put the desert parts in the script maybe as a way for me to do the film. So we were supposed to do all of this stuff, but when we started the actual prep for the movie, it was much too expensive. For one day of shooting in the States, it was… I don't quite know, but expensive. So then we were supposed to go to another island in Quebec, a really beautiful place. But even after that the location changed to an island much closer.
MP: Xavier can adapt - that's the crazy thing about him. Even though he's that young, sometimes he seems crazy, but in fact he's very grounded and knows exactly what he can and can't do. So if the production says, “You can't do that,” he'll simply reply, “Okay, I have another idea,” and that other idea is even better.
SC: And he'll sell it to you with complete passion, always.
Did this project, and your parts within it, bring out aspects of yourself that surprised you?
MP: For me, from the start I knew I should do something with Xavier, even though I thought maybe initially he was some sort of arrogant, young fashion phenomenon, but I was interested. Then when I met him I was even more curious, so when it didn't work with this other actor, I thought, “Oh, this is the moment I was waiting for.”
And there was the fact that my mother [Chantal Poupaud] did this documentary I edited [“Crossdressers”] about those characters, and playing a woman is something for me that was always attractive. So from the start, I knew it was important to do this film. And Xavier had very precise ideas about the part. He tried to push me in a way nobody did. I felt during the shooting that it was important to listen to him, and trust him as closely as possible. It's funny too, because after she saw the film, my younger sister told me, “It's the first time I've seen you on-screen in the way I've always known you.” Even under all of the costumes and make-up, she saw that personal side.
MP: It's not out in the U.S. yet, which is a shame because it's an interesting piece. It follows four guys - they all met recently, and it's during their transformation that my mother filmed them doing everything - shaving, doing makeup, the breasts - so it's the same ritual four times. And it's almost the same experience, the same type of words when they talk about it.
What inspired her to do this?
MP: My mother, she's always been surrounded by arty creatures. She worked in the cinema during the '70s with poets, directors. And when she discovered those guys, it was like finding old friends. You know the type of advertisement old ladies, with the Tupperware and playing cards? It was like that, but with wigs. [Laughs] They all called her the 'Genetic One.'
But since we've screened 'Laurence,' we've all found out the range of stories going on like the one in the film. We've had a lot of friends that have seen it and said, “The movie is exactly like the one with my friend or brother.” So it's been interesting to see the reaction, especially with the period. Because the film is set 20 years ago, it might be easy to think things are much better now, but I think it shows exactly how difficult a relationship like this still remains. There's still a big gap in understanding.
“Laurence Anyways” has already been released in Europe and Canada, and recently found U.S. distribution with Breaking Glass Pictures. It arrives on DVD and Blu-ray in Canada on November 20th.