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Guillermo Del Toro Says It's Basically A Wrap For The ‘Hellboy’ Series

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by Edward Davis
July 12, 2014 7:04 PM
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Last we heard, actor Ron Perlman was looking to complete the “Hellboy” series as a trilogy before finally saying goodbye. “I’d like to finish it. I’d like for there to be a third film because the first two films were set up for this huge resolve and he [and director Guillermo Del Toro] already understands what that resolve will look like," the actor said a few month ago.

Pearlman said that while del Toro never did deliver the “nuts and bolts” of the story, he did give him the “broad strokes sketch” of what the third film would look like describing it as “epic.” This certainly stoked the flames of many fans out there hoping to see their red demon hero on the big screen.  But in a recent Reddit AMA, de Toro seemingly does it once a month, the always chatty, always candid filmmaker cast what feels like final doubts on a third film.

“It’s very unlikely it’ll happen because you need things to converge so strongly. [Producer] Larry Gordon, Universal, the rights, Ron [Perlman’s] and mine’s availability, [comic creator] Mike [Mingola’s] blessing; we have pieces of that, but we don’t have all of that. You need so many things to confluence and then you need about $150 million,” del Toro wrote during the chat.

The filmmaker even revealed some of the narrative elements too. "The idea for it was to have Hellboy finally come to terms with the fact that his destiny, his inevitable destiny, is to become the beast of the Apocalypse,” he said. “And having him and Liz face the sort of, that part of his nature, and he has to do it, in order to be able to ironically vanquish the foe that he has to face in the 3rd film. He has to become the best of the Apocalypse to be able to defend humanity, but at the same time he becomes a much darker being. It’s a very interesting ending to the series, but I don’t think it will happen.”

del Toro's right about the math. It's not on his side. The first "Hellboy" film didn't even crack $60 million domestically and the sequel, 'The Golden Army' didn't go higher than $75 million. And there wasn’t much of an international appetite for the film either. In 2004, the original film failed to even crack the $100 million mark worldwide, the second faired a little bit better at $160 million, but these are the numbers studios are aiming for with domestic releases, not global ones. I certainly wouldn’t bet a third film taking place, especially when del Toro’s got a “Pacific Rim” world to take forward into the future.

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  • Okezi Avae | July 14, 2014 4:12 AMReply

    It's almost disbelieving that the two Hell Boy movies have found it so difficult to make really good money. The Hell Boy concept have been in great hands (del Toro's) and Ron Pealman IS Hell Boy. So why did they find it so hard to get people in the cinemas to watch these really enjoyable movies? Would love to see a part 3 but as this article has eloquently put it, I doubt it will ever happen.

  • Emperor Zerg Rush | July 14, 2014 6:12 PM

    An unknown (by public consumption, at least) character was less likely to draw in big numbers. It's likely the same reason you don't see a Squirrel Girl solo film from Marvel - while she may have her nerd army present from the comics, it'd take a miracle to put asses in the seats to see her on the big screen and generate a profit.

    It's a shame really, since The Golden Army - factoring a few things out like his pure horror/early Criterion certified releases - was one of del Toro's best Hollywood films and is deserving a close to its story.

  • skywater | July 13, 2014 5:42 AMReply

    I much prefer what he's got going on right now with pacific rim, in terms of tentpole stuff.

  • Emperor Zerg Rush | July 12, 2014 9:28 PMReply

    Mignola. And del Toro.

    While I don't doubt all the things he said prior to the money playing a factor, deep down it's always going to be about the funds. Mike Mignola would likely sign off on it without batting an eye considering how closely involved he was with the first film and how del Toro proved to him that he knew how to handle it because he enjoyed the source material immensely. Perlman's schedule is likely going to free up a bit once Sons of Anarchy closes out its final season, not to say he's not an in-demand talent for other things but I'm sure he'd have a window of time open for a final Hellboy film.

    But money runs it in Hollywood and if it ain't there, it ain't there.

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