The gender topic has been much more prevalent lately, and with both the directors of "Detropia" being female, they have an interesting perspective on sexism in the industry and the differing treatment in the documentary world. "Heidi and I have talked about this a lot and I think there’s a scale of how much sexism happens depending on not only who the women are but what the job is. Unfortunately, I think where the profits are higher there’s more sexism, and where the profits are lower there’s more work and people are more lenient. I think Heidi and I have slightly less issues with it because there’s two of us, and I think somehow people think we’re almost equal to a guy because there’s two of us," Grady said. We'll let that last line sink in.
Saying that the once-prosperous Motor City has seen better days is a huge understatement, and while the local government are trying their damndest to get the place back on its feet, the filmmakers have some of their own ideas. "If I could come up with a solution, honestly, I’d be a genius. I don’t think there’s one thing, but it has to do a number of things... everything possible," Grady declared. They both agree on the need for some serious entrepreneurialship. "It has to become a place where people start small businesses, and they have to figure out how to lure people that pay taxes. They have no tax base, no money. Give major incentives to start a business and become an entrepreneur, which has to happen all over this country. It can be an amazing example to the rest of this country. Next step, invest in schools so people stay there. First comes jobs, then people, then comes money. With all that, they can create the community they deserve." Ewing echoed a similar sentiment, saying, "Pretty much 100% of job growth in the country now is through entrepreneurial companies, small companies. You're seeing a trend that the city is starting, little coffee shops and this and that, but if Michigan could make itself more attractive to businesses and if Detroit would make it a lot less bureaucratic to open up businesses it would help a lot. More radical ideas like tax-free zones for businesses to lure larger companies to set up in Detroit." As if it didn't have enough problems, Grady pointed out another hurdle: the place is much, much too large. "I think it physically has to shrink. It wasn’t a sustainable design, it’s enormous. Even with 1.8 million people, it was still too big. But you’re talking about shrinking a huge infrastructure... I don’t know how to do that. I think it’s going to become something else than what it was. But that doesn’t mean it can’t maintain it’s passion and spirit, but we cannot look at the past. America’s world has changed, and there’s no getting around that." The number of things to do is quite overwhelming, but the native Michiganite notes that it will take more than hopeful wishing to get the place going again. "There's no one thing, no single silver bullet to get it going again."
As big time movie buffs, the filmmakers had a number of flicks that unconsciously influenced them, but they looked at two rather different films in particular when the project was gestating. "Initially the films we were referencing changed of course," Rachel explained, but originally it was ‘Darwin’s Nightmare’ and ‘Short Cuts.’ How peoples’ lives interact with each other and they don’t even know it but they’re all part of the fiber, that would be 'Short Cuts,' and ‘Darwin’s Nightmare’ was that there’s a big problem under your nose and that you interact with every day, and if you follow the chain back, it’s wild." And while it's certainly a different kind of movie, there's a small connection to Michael Moore's "Roger & Me," which took a look at Michigan's problems two decades prior. "That is an excellent film, and ‘Detropia’ is an interesting companion piece to that film twenty or so years later. We don't make the same kind of films as him, but I'm glad somebody does." Many of their films have played at Moore's Traverse City Film Festival, and the filmmakers were happy that the loyal, passionate Michiganite was so supportive of their Detroit-centered film.
With years of documentary films under their belt, we were curious if the two watched to branch out a bit into the fiction world, and it appears that both filmmakers are quite taken with something more down the middle. "I love documentaries obviously, for me that's where it's at, but every story needs its own kind of treatment," Ewing explained. "Sometimes we have an idea that would be better for a narrative, not a documentary. so we move on. But I don't always want to dismiss it right away, and maybe next time think, well, how else can this be told? I am interested in doing something narrative, but maybe like a hybrid first. Something with a fictional element but all true, based on real occurrences with a strong non-fictional element." Grady pointed to a great doc/narrative mash-up called "Unmade Beds" that particularly struck her, but there aren't any ideas that fit the hybrid mold just yet. "Right now we’re finishing up a bunch of projects that we’re excited about: one about islamophobia for HBO, a TV show for MTV, and we’re about to do this ESPN thing about Title IX. As far as a feature, we’re still in the incubation stage, ideas floating around. I really want to do something about the 1%, though." Timely, and an interesting topic to follow something like "Detropia."