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John Hillcoat Talks Sticking With Shia LaBeouf For 'Lawless,' How Tom Hardy Embraced His Feminine Side & More

Photo of Kevin Jagernauth By Kevin Jagernauth | The Playlist August 28, 2012 at 10:59AM

When the movies and television have portrayed prohibition, it is generally cast through the prism of slick city gangsters, with highly organized operations that rule with brutal efficiency. Should any bumps arise along the way, or cogs in the machine slow down the river of money or booze, lethal and non-refundable means are employed to keep things running as they should. However, in John Hillcoat's "Lawless," the very decision to act violently, to put your life in danger with the possibility that you can end someone else's, is not taken lightly. "It's not the violence that sets men apart, it is the distance he is prepared to go," Forrest Bondurant advises his younger upstart brother Jack.
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Tom Hardy, Hillcoat, Lawless

When the movies and television have portrayed prohibition, it is generally cast through the prism of slick city gangsters, with highly organized operations that rule with brutal efficiency. Should any bumps arise along the way, or cogs in the machine slow down the river of money or booze, lethal and non-refundable means are employed to keep things running as they should. However, in John Hillcoat's "Lawless," the very decision to act violently, to put your life in danger with the possibility that you can end someone else's, is not taken lightly. "It's not the violence that sets men apart, it is the distance he is prepared to go," Forrest Bondurant advises his younger upstart brother Jack.

And those two, played by Tom Hardy and Shia LaBeouf, along with Jason Clarke as Howard Bondurant, form the trio of Virginian bootleggers in "Lawless." Operating independently and successfully, the siblings suddenly find themselves defending their turf from the slimy, sneering and vicious Special Agent Charlie Rakes (Guy Pearce) as well as local boys who decided they want a cut of their action to help maintain the peace. But the Bondurants are prepared to go the distance, with Jack's own journey finding him contemplating the blood that has been spilled and what he will do to ensure justice is paid. It's an entertaining and at times electric piece of work, and we recently got on the phone with Hillcoat, who talked to us from Romania where he's shooting a Jameson Whiskey commercial, to talk about "Lawless," subverting genre conventions, watching the film fall apart and come back together again and much more.

Gary Oldman, Lawless
"Lawless" doesn't play into the typical gangster myths
The film is based on the book "The Wettest County In The World" by Matt Bondurant, and as you might have guessed by that name, it's inspired by a true story. But it was the atypical nature of the tale about these rural moonshine makers who found their trade by happenstance and being in the right place at the right time, that intrigued Hillcoat. "I mean the one thing that I love about the real story was the way that these people, these backwoods moonshiners were sort of called in[to the business]. Because of circumstances, suddenly there was this sort of gold rush with something that they could do," he explained.

While traditionally, movies of this nature follow a rise marked by a spectacular fall, Hillcoat was more fascinated by the fact that the Bondurants succeeded and went on to lead productive lives. "[Bootlegging] sort of drew them into this crazy kind of world of corruption and lawlessness ironically, but then mostly they survived, they got through it all and actually went on to have businesses and children. And traditionally the gangster film teaches us that we've got to pay for our sins. Usually the gangster is shot down in a blaze of glory and doesn't get up again," Hillcoat said. "So [writer] Nick [Cave] and I loved that about the story, we also loved the idea that it sort of touched on the whole immortality that a lot of these guys start to feel when they do survive so many strange experiences."

Shia, Hardy, Lawless
Immortality and invincibility aren't exactly what they seem
Indeed, an aura of myth does hang around the Bondurants and other figures in the film as well. While Gary Oldman features as famed gangster Floyd Banner, his presence is notably smaller than you might expect. His character acts more as a representation of everything that Jack Bondurant aspires to be -- powerful, rich, well dressed and commanding a leadership and authority that earns respect from those on both sides of the law (and who better to portray that than Oldman?). And for Hillcoat, both Floyd and Jack are reflections of how audiences have looked at gangsters for years.

"...the character that Shia plays...what we loved is that he's not like his other brothers, he's like the everyman and in many ways is like the viewer of gangster films [in that] we all love to see these guys -- the badass characters like Gary Oldman who is this charismatic gangster who does everything we can't do and would never want to do -- except in the safety of the cinema," he told us. "So we love that roller coaster ride, the thrills and chills of all of that world...the American spirit triumph[ing] over adversity and every individual standing up for their rights. [But] Jack discovers that they're not invincible and no nation is or no individual is and I thought that was a lovely arc."

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