"Bob is quieter than I am. I actually talk more than he does, because he's a little more withdrawn, and I'm more outgoing," she said. "But when we go meet a high-level person, they address everything to Bob. And Bob would notice it, and it would make him very uncomfortable, because he was used to me doing all the talking, so he would try to redirect it -- 'So, Shari, what do you think?' -- to get me to talk. It happens a lot. So I have to earn the respect of all the grips and the electrics that I work with. They have to know that I'm tough."
Holofcener said that while she doesn't have a lot of problems, she suspects that if she were male, she would make more money, have more control over casting, and get sent better scripts to direct. "I would say that most of the A-level scripts go to men, absolutely," she said. "But if I offer a part to Bruce Willis and he goes and watches my past movies and passes, is it because I'm a woman, or because I made those movies?"
A few months ago, when Holofcener was putting together her next film
and running into brick walls, she was "screaming about how sexist this business is," she confessed. The studio wanted her to cast an actress as her lead that she didn't feel was right for the part, and they couldn't come to an agreement on anybody else. "I was really depressed. At one point, I buckled, and I said, 'Fuck it! Okay, I'll offer this actor the part.' And when she passed, I was so relieved." For a while, the movie died, but once Holofcener asked the studio for her movie back, they finally came to an agreement. "There were so many times I thought she was going to walk away from this project," Cholodenko said, "and I'd be like, 'No, don't!' And then I'd get an email from her saying, 'Yeah, the cast came together, and we're going into production.'"
"So there's no such thing as sexism anymore," Holofcener joked. That cast for the as-yet-untitled dramedy, to shoot this summer, now includes Julia Louis-Dreyfus
and James Gandolfini,
but so far, no Catherine Keener
, who is usually a mainstay of Holofcener's films. ("She won't work with me," the director joked. "If a guy asks her, she will.") "I would say this film is not as dark as 'Please Give,' but it's definitely my blend of humor and misery," she added. "They're not mutually exclusive. But this one might be a little lighter than the others."
Now that she's editing "Imogene"
(in which she says Annette Bening
is "fantastic"), Springer Berman's next project
will be "The Royal We
" (The Playlist broke this story back in the day
). "It's a script we wrote a long time ago that has been living with Harvey Weinstein
," she said. "Harvey wants to do it, but it's not easy getting a movie green-lit" -- whether the director is male or female.