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Suggestions? 'True Detective' Writer Nic Pizzolatto Teases Female Detectives For Season 2

Television
by Kevin Jagernauth
February 24, 2014 4:30 PM
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True Detective

By now, you've likely seen the pretty excellent #TrueDetectiveSeason2 trend on Twitter, with folks offering up their (funny) suggestions (here's ours) for who should take over the lead roles when the second season of "True Detective" moves ahead at HBO. (It's not officially confirmed, but seems inevitable at this point.) But in all seriousness, as the first season highlighted, writer/creator Nic Pizzolatto's pen is capable of crafting truly memorable, complex parts for whoever takes the creative reins, and in an intriguing little twist he suggested on Twitter that women may get the central focus next time.

There has been some criticism of late that women are underrepresented or underwritten in the show, but that criticism sort of misses the point. "True Detective" is very much about women being ignored, abused and victimized in an atmosphere where religion and power structures don't seem to have much regard for females (or children for that matter). Rust Cohle is haunted by death of his daughter, while Martin Hart continually takes his children and wife for granted, and uses women in general as objects. It's a specific, horrific culture Pizzolatto is crafting.


But switching up the POV, as he hints at in his tweet, would be pretty inspired, particularly since Pizzolatto isn't bound to any specific setting or story since "True Detective" seasons will be self-contained. So now the big question: if there are two big female roles for "True Detective" season 2, who should they be?

Sound off in the comments below and if you haven't seen "True Detective" yet, get on it—there are only two episodes left.

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109 Comments

  • abe | April 8, 2014 1:45 PMReply

    hillary swank

  • Karine | March 21, 2014 11:01 PMReply

    So much misogyny here.

  • Psh | August 4, 2014 12:21 PM

    Maybe you should just go suck your thumb in a corner. And take your buzzword with you.

  • Brandon Ashby | March 16, 2014 11:40 AMReply

    Jodie Foster

  • harlow jean | March 5, 2014 5:46 PMReply

    Frances McDormand...put her in somewhere...police chief? Remember Fargo? That was a good part for a woman...not many good parts for women actors.

  • Robertg | March 4, 2014 12:24 PMReply

    Sorry. No more Mcconaughay and Harrelson no more TD for me to watch, the same as Two and a half Men, becomes BS.

  • Ayup | August 4, 2014 12:27 PM

    Ditto that. PC SJW nonsense out to smear crap on the walls again.

  • harlow jean | March 3, 2014 5:29 PMReply

    Songs: Steve Earle "Meet me in the Alleyway" & "Lungs" Townes Van Zandt

  • Todd | March 2, 2014 2:24 PMReply

    Melissa Leo. She Was Great In Homicide: Life On The Street. Gillian Anderson for the Other One. She Is Outstanding In "The Fall".

  • luka | February 28, 2014 10:26 PMReply

    So it was a perfect tv series.
    Now when reading this carp idea I'm disappointed cause it is perfect..
    Two woman playing a detective partners?
    Somebody said about oprah????
    Are you mad???

  • JK | February 27, 2014 11:55 AMReply

    Please let this be only a joke..

  • Heh | August 4, 2014 12:32 PM

    @BUDDY I believe they call that one a strawman? Maybe I'm wrong. Been a while since I studied Intro to Rhetoric. Here's some free advice: stop guessing. It's clearly not one of your strengths. Enabling the PC complainers does not benefit society.

  • Buddy | February 27, 2014 12:05 PM

    The idea of having 2 female detectives as leads on a tv show in the 21st century strikes you as a joke? I guess you'd rather just see them as prostitutes, ignored housewives and murder victims.

  • Dazzz82 | February 27, 2014 7:24 AMReply

    Michelle Pfeiffer & Jodie Foster

  • Carole | March 10, 2014 7:48 PM

    Jodie Foster and Sandra Bullock .... or Michelle and Sandra.

  • harlow jean | February 27, 2014 6:51 AMReply

    police chief Leroy salter is the better chief...has the correct accent for that location & more charisma in episode 6; prefer this actor to the other chief in episode 1

  • Pepe | February 26, 2014 10:09 PMReply

    Al Picano & Robin Williams

  • Peggy | February 26, 2014 12:01 PMReply

    Tyler Perry and Will Smith.

  • Rich67 | February 26, 2014 11:17 AMReply

    Tina Fey & Amy Poehler

  • makfi | February 26, 2014 11:12 AMReply

    Jeri Ryan and Olivia Wilde

  • hect | February 26, 2014 10:02 AMReply

    Why do you always have to ruin everything?

  • L>D> | February 26, 2014 10:00 AMReply

    I would hate to have to follow these two guys on the next series, they have set the bar so high on the acting and the chemistry. I am anxious to find out all the answers, but will hate it when it's over, great show

  • Ed | February 26, 2014 9:09 AMReply

    Jodi Foster, Natalie Portman, Julianne Moore, Scarlet Johanson

  • Diane | February 26, 2014 9:06 AMReply

    Mirielle Enos and Joel Kinnamon from The Killing? Nic Pizzolatto wrote on that series. Clark Johnson and Dominic West from the Wire? Michael Chiklis and C.C. Pounder from The Shield? BTW, I'm a retired female police officer and I think the criticism of the show for no strong women's is undeserved. Woman can't go deep undercover the way Rust did and it was necessary to have Rustand Marty to play off each other to make it work.

  • Mo | February 26, 2014 7:50 AMReply

    Kate Winslet and Micheal Shannon.

  • Hmm | August 4, 2014 12:37 PM

    I kinda like that one. Except it's MichAEl. Michael Sheen would have been interesting as well.

  • Julian | February 26, 2014 6:44 AMReply

    Sorry to add a further point.

    But surely it is also better for a male writer to write male lead characters and leave the writing of female lead characters to a women?

    I'm not suggesting men can never write women and vice versa... that would be ridiculous. But Jane Austin consciously never wrote a scene where men talked to each other without a woman present because she had no knowledge of how they would talk and kept to women and women or mixed scenes.

    If anything is to be levelled at anyone surely the criticism should be that HBO need to commission more work from women writers or more women need to write.

    I think Ann Biderman represents gritty women writers very well and think Southland was one of the best cop things short of the Wire and the Shield and it's a shame it never had better backing. Ray Donovan was also good and I'm glad it is getting a second season. The women in Ray Donovan were very powerful and far from negatively stereotyped... if anything, if I was playing Devil's Advocate I could turn the books and accuse her of writing men as negative stereotypes who only know how to fight and chase women.

  • Julian | February 26, 2014 4:45 AMReply

    I think True Detective has so far been very good. How could it not be when the writer cites my two favourite programmes as his biggest influences... The Wire & Deadwood.

    If the female characters are causing a certain stir with some sectors of American society then rather than blame the writer I think you have to question your own male and female roles and interactions.

    I am English, but have spent a lot of time in America, and love the country... the good and not so good aspects of it... and love American people. But one think my wife and I have always noticed in America is men and women as a rule have very different... not to say confused gender roles as compared to us in England. A good example being the fact you have never has a woman president and I can't see you ever having one, you have never even had a woman selected by either of the main parties to run to be president. Meanwhile a very large slice of the rest of the world has had or currently has female leaders.

    So IMHO far from misrepresenting women... True Detectives has hit on a raw nerve.

  • Bleh | August 4, 2014 12:38 PM

    Thanks for the ethics and morality lesson. Carry on.

  • harlow jean | February 26, 2014 3:36 AMReply

    female police chief...Kathryn morris, Kathryn erbe, patti d'arbanville, Loretta swit. male cops: clark Johnson, Vincent d'onofrio, sean penn, Morton downy jr. joe penny...what about viola davis somewhere?

  • Jase | February 26, 2014 2:14 AMReply

    Two females would no doubt end up with the usual 'realistic' small figured pair throwing and beating up muscle clad dudes about with aplomb. No thanks. And a male and female always results in the male taking blows not only from the suspects to protect the women but also her verbally etc. to 'keep her tough' in the eyes of the viewer. The whole point about two men working in the world we have with TD, is that a woman police character wouldn't have worked. Women are second class citizens at best here and a female cop simply wouldn't have worked.
    So, season two will have to have substantial changes with two women leads to work on a mature and intellectual level away from the usual network dross - which, thus far, TD has proven so good at doing.
    Of course it could all be a cloud screen that people have ran into from that tweet. For all we know, Nic Pizzolatto may have simply been hinting at extending female scenes/stories and not introducing two women leads for a second run.

  • Concur | August 4, 2014 12:42 PM

    I agree with (almost) this whole post. Except the second class part. It isn't wholly women in second class seats. It's everyone not born into the societal elite. And there are plenty of women that are born into the elite.

  • Jake | February 25, 2014 8:03 PMReply

    Two female detectives? That's a joke, right? Way too unrealistic. I can see them do a male and female duo in a later season, but not this soon. Quick way to lose fans.

  • Jake | February 25, 2014 7:57 PMReply

    I don't see that tweet any where on Twitter.

  • Kinth | February 25, 2014 6:47 PMReply

    As much as I enjoy True Detective I think it should be left as a one off season. It would be better to just have the same team come up with a new show, that way they aren't restricted to the detective idea.

    Just doing the same thing with different characters sounds dull regardless of their gender. Let them make something new. True Detective has shown the story telling strength of a one of Mini-Series, take advantage of that. Rather than the same thing again and again with new faces and never as good as the original. True Detective is constantly compared to films and like many films it does not need a cash in sequel.

  • Andrew | February 25, 2014 6:46 PMReply

    Women? Are you kidding me. Anytime something gets good with men the bitches chime in and say they deserve their part. Their part is on their knees

  • Er | August 4, 2014 12:44 PM

    @Diane Maybe the last sentence. Otherwise he has a point.

  • Diane | February 26, 2014 9:08 AM

    That's just ugly.

  • Harlow Jean | February 25, 2014 6:19 PMReply

    Could you find a part for angela Lansbury...like the small part of tess harper? Love angela!

  • Harlow Jean | February 25, 2014 6:15 PMReply

    sissy spacek, holly hunter, Jodi foster

  • Harlow Jean | February 25, 2014 6:14 PMReply

    sissy spacek, holly hunter, Jodi foster

  • Doc | February 25, 2014 3:26 PMReply

    Janeane Garofalo and Holly Hunter

  • Andrew | February 25, 2014 6:40 PM

    Janeane Garofalo???? That was a joke right...

  • Doc | February 25, 2014 3:26 PMReply

    Janeane Garofalo and Holly Hunter

  • CB Dolloway | February 25, 2014 2:21 PMReply

    I really don't see how they are going to keep my interest next season without Rust Cohle...

  • Jonathan F. | February 25, 2014 2:19 PMReply

    So... he deleted that tweet. I guess that's the end of that.

  • Lily | February 25, 2014 1:51 PMReply

    Tell me where to send my pilot and episode and you'll have two female leads.

  • wtf | February 25, 2014 1:37 PMReply

    Take this PC bullshit and shove it up your gigi. We don't need two women detectives in season 2...do we have some kind of quota to fill?

    The way HBO is going lately I would not be surprised to see 2 gay men with plenty of boy on boy scenes from the leads for season 2.

    Please don't ruin a masterpiece with mainstream PC bullshit that ruins everything we watch now!

  • Womitvs | August 4, 2014 12:46 PM

    @BP What privileged majority? You might be interested in knowing that 9 out of 10 "facts" taught in gender studies courses are bullwaste.

  • B.P. | February 28, 2014 6:46 PM

    Wah wah why won't anyone think of the privileged majority!

  • vbhatt | February 25, 2014 1:31 PMReply

    Kate and Allie

  • Pauline | February 25, 2014 12:52 PMReply

    Eva Mendez

  • Pete Mustard | February 25, 2014 12:45 PMReply

    Tyne Daly and Sharon Gless

  • Cindy | February 25, 2014 12:41 PMReply

    You Better Watch What You Say: 7 'True Detective' Female Dream Teams (http://bit.ly/1huuFg1)

  • comeonguys | February 25, 2014 12:24 PMReply

    Gabourey Sidibe and Debra Winger
    Mary Elizabeth Winstead and Miley Cyrus
    Willow Smith and Kathy Bates

  • david | February 25, 2014 12:17 PMReply

    jenna jamesion and jesse jane !!!

  • Cris | February 25, 2014 11:28 AMReply

    Hellen Mirren & Penélope Cruz
    Charlize Theron & Jualianne Nicholson
    Melissa Leo & January Jones
    Felicity Huffman & Rooney Mara
    Amy Adams & Evan Rachel Wood

  • Newt | February 25, 2014 10:21 AMReply

    get Jodi Foster on board

  • truest detective | February 25, 2014 7:07 AMReply

    Seriously..... Forget women ... they are over represented these days.

    Remember the 80's they played no part , how good was that !

  • SJW Alert | August 4, 2014 1:04 PM

    @Diane Not sure how you can expect anyone to believe these kinds of claims on the webz. Regardless, you are not all women.

    @Person You are not from reality. Keep your sorrys and the rest of your indignant feelz to yourself. If you leave them laying around like this they'll just get thrown out. You ain't special.

  • Diane | February 26, 2014 9:15 AM

    "Remember the 80's they played no part? " Are you serious? I began my police career in the 70's and for the most part I was a street cop. Bar brawls, murder arrests, scary crazy people, serial killers, all of that. So please speak not of what you have no knowledge. Oh yeah, I'm a straight, feminine woman.

  • Person | February 25, 2014 5:19 PM

    You really are just that stupid. In all seriousness, you sound like a complete asshole. I mean, the words that spew from your disgusting mouth are truly pathetic. I am so so sorry for you and more sorry for any woman who you may have manipulated into participating even minimally in your life. Not to mention how absolutely clueless you are about the world. Oh my, good luck to you. The world isn't very kind to people with brains like yours.

  • Brad | February 25, 2014 6:59 AMReply

    Tilda Swinton and Jennifer Lawrence
    Christina Hendricks and Alison Brie
    Carey Mulligan and Rosamund Pike

  • CK | February 25, 2014 5:26 AMReply

    Now what Emily Nussbaum?

  • Dan M | February 25, 2014 3:33 AMReply

    Sandra Bullock and Toni Colette
    Meryl Streep and Hellen Mirren
    Viola Davis and Charlize Theron or Octavia Spencer
    Sigourney Weaver and Kate Blanchett
    Amy Adams and Natalie Portman
    Keira Knightley and Emma Watson
    Jodi Foster and Amy Ryan

  • Ivan | February 25, 2014 3:14 AMReply

    Jodie Foster & Marisa Tomei
    Juliette Lewis & Sarah Jessica Parker

  • Iván | February 25, 2014 3:07 AMReply

    LAURA LINNEY & LUPITA N'YONGO
    ELISABETH SHUE & MAGGIE GYLLENHAAL
    MARIA BELLO & MICHELLE WILLIAMS
    DIANE LANE & ANA KENDRICK
    JANET MCTEER & WINONA RYDER
    CHARLIZE THERON & ROSARIO DAWSON

  • Luke D. | February 25, 2014 2:20 AMReply

    They could do a Dexter reunion and cast Jennifer Carpenter and Julie Benz.....

  • Tom | February 24, 2014 11:11 PMReply

    Key and Peele

  • willy | February 24, 2014 10:54 PMReply

    Rooney and Kate.

  • DLac | February 24, 2014 10:48 PMReply

    Frances McDormand and Carey Mulligan

  • Andrew | February 24, 2014 10:37 PMReply

    Sarah Wayne Callie's and Edie Falco. Boom!

  • Gidget | February 24, 2014 10:07 PMReply

    Melissa Leo & Robin Wright
    Angela Bassett & Holly Hunter
    Toni Colette & Viola Davis
    Sanra Bullock & Scarlett Johansson
    Reese Witherspoon & Julia Roberts
    Uma Thurman & Kate Mara

  • John | February 24, 2014 10:02 PMReply

    Quvenzhane Wallis and Betty White or bust.

  • Domgogo | February 24, 2014 9:55 PMReply

    April Grace and Karine Vanasse

  • Tdfan | February 24, 2014 9:41 PMReply

    Viola Davis and Holly Hunter

  • SweeneyMcSweeney | February 24, 2014 9:03 PMReply

    I vote Khandi Alexander & Amanda Hale

  • Wow | February 25, 2014 5:27 AM

    Yes!

  • Chuck | February 24, 2014 8:31 PMReply

    Janeane Garofalo and Robin Wright

  • Alex | February 24, 2014 7:40 PMReply

    Emayatzy Corinealdi and Mary Elizabeth Winstead in Los Angeles?

  • Kristi | February 24, 2014 7:39 PMReply

    WHO CARES IF WOMEN ARE UNDERWRITTEN OR UNDERREPRESENTED!!!! That's silly. It's damn near the best show ever produced apart from Game of Thrones. Maybe the idea of two women POVs will grow, but I'd much rather see two more men! I guess it all depends on the script. If I had to choose two women: Maggie Smith & Sandra Bullock.

  • Nice | August 4, 2014 12:57 PM

    Yeah, the thing about favorites is that they are decided at the discretion of the individual. I guarantee my favorites are not mainstream, but they're no less my favorites for that. Anyway, I can respect Kristi's opinion here. She isn't pushing a social agenda.

  • Tom | February 24, 2014 10:02 PM

    Game of Thrones is the best show ever produced? Lmao

  • Smeep | February 24, 2014 7:43 PM

    No. Also there are far better shows than those two.

  • d burns | February 24, 2014 7:03 PMReply

    RIZZOLI AND ISLES !!!!

  • Daniel | February 24, 2014 7:01 PMReply

    the return of frances mcdormand

  • tomincmh | February 24, 2014 6:58 PMReply

    Jessica Chastain and Amy Adams. Gorgeous and talented gingers FTW.

  • Smeep | February 24, 2014 6:57 PMReply

    Ugh your "specific, horrific culture" point (as well as Pizzolatto's "structural necessity" excuse) is the age old crap that normalizes the dull/exclusively sexual/underrepresentation of women in mainstream media.

  • WTH | August 4, 2014 12:52 PM

    What? Do you think men feel represented by the male roles they watch? Do you think average Joe feels represented by the stuffed shirts in Congress? Think again. If you're that influenced by the TV you watch then you might consider taking up a new hobby.

  • Mack | February 24, 2014 6:22 PMReply

    Cate Blanchett & Rebecca Hall
    Kate Mara & Maggie Siff
    Viola Davis & Aunjanue Ellis or Melissa Leo
    Anika Noni Rose & Angela Bassett

  • kevin | February 24, 2014 6:22 PMReply

    Amy Ryan is a must and Zoe Saldana

  • Rob | February 24, 2014 6:15 PMReply

    Frances McDormand.

  • ART | February 24, 2014 6:07 PMReply

    Melissa Leo (Prisoners) and Danai Gurira (Mother of George)!!!!

  • cinetesta | February 24, 2014 5:59 PMReply

    marion cotillard and kate winslet

  • alex | February 24, 2014 5:51 PMReply

    Mary Elizabeth Winstead and Rachel Weisz.

  • thislalife | February 24, 2014 5:46 PMReply

    Cate Blanchett & Kate Winslet.

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