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The 5 Worst Things About Pixar

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by Drew Taylor
June 18, 2013 2:41 PM
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3.) Every Movie Ends In A Chase Sequence
Like many of Pixar's bad habits, the every-Pixar-movie-has-to-end-with-a-chase thing was started with patient zero: "Toy Story." In that movie, Woody and Buzz are making a frantic attempt to reconnect with their toy friends before Andy and his family move houses. There's a rocket and a radio-controlled car and the whole thing was absolutely exhilarating. So exhilarating, in fact, that the studio decided to use it as their narrative template for many, many future adventures. "Toy Story 2" upped the ante of the chase by having it set on an airport's runway (the third film eschewed the chase altogether, which was a nice move); "Up" concludes with an aerial chase through (and over and around) a zeppelin; "Monsters Inc." features maybe the studio's most famous climactic chase – one involving a seemingly endless sea of doors. "The Incredibles" and "Ratatouille" both have elaborate chase sequences but are staged before the finale, while "WALL-E" has a race against time that spans the cosmos. "Brave," for its part, features a similar time crush, but is set in the mystical Scottish highlands instead of outer space. It got so bad that New York Magazine's Vulture blog asked Pete Docter, the director of "Up," why so many Pixar movies end with chases, and this was before "Cars 2," where the entire movie feels like a chase (and, of course, it ends with one – a race against time, no less). "Yeah, it's definitely something you think about," Docter admitted. "But just from a storytelling standpoint, you want to have a sense of acceleration, that things are getting faster and deeper and more intense, so that's why you inevitably get to some physical thing, which really viscerally gets the audience going. But it's always something we're aware of. But you just try to make it as good as you can." And "Monsters University?" Yep. This one involves a chase through the human world, in a sequence that more closely resembles an installment from the "Friday the 13th" franchise than anything from the Pixar world.

Finding Nemo
4.) The Problem With Multiple Climaxes
Usually multiple climaxes isn't viewed as a bad thing, especially in the bedroom (eyebrows raised), but when it comes to Pixar movies, it's a huge issue. This problem really started with the end of "Finding Nemo," in which Nemo is reunited with his son and are about to swim back to their little part of the ocean when – oh no! – Nemo gets caught in a net and has to convince a giant school of fish to swim to the bottom of the ocean. The moment is meant to double-underline the idea that Nemo has, thanks to his interaction with the Tank Gang, learned about selflessness and the importance of teamwork, and it shows that Marlin has let go of his obsessive worrying enough to at least let his son figure out this problem on his own. It's just one beat too many and it has come up again and again in the Pixar movies since "Finding Nemo." This is most noticeable in "WALL-E," which, like "Finding Nemo" and Pixar's lone, unofficial live action feature "John Carter," was directed by Andrew Stanton. At the end of "WALL-E," climaxes seem to come so fast and furiously that they start to bump into one another, noisily colliding. You'd think that the climax would be our heroic robots EVE and WALL-E stabilizing, to a degree, the flailing Axiom spacecraft, which has been overruled by a villainous robotic copilot (this is that sequence where the ship is tipping over and the humans, formerly immobile blobs, spring into action). But then there's the issue of WALL-E being mortally wounded (or whatever the equivalent of a robot being mortally wounded is) and the desperate race back to a post-apocalyptic earth. What's even more outrageous is that the movie doesn't end there – EVE still has to fix WALL-E, which creates another added dip in an already dizzying rollercoaster of emotion. "Monsters University" suffers similarly (spoiler warning for those of you who care), with the movie seemingly culminating in the final round of the Scare Games, where Mike and Sulley are finally sized up for the monsters that they are. But wait! There's more! The aforementioned chase through the human world happens after the end of the scare games, and that sequence has its own little climax, where Mike and Sulley have to scare a bunch of law enforcement officials who are after them. It goes on and on and on, with diminishing returns in terms of emotional payoff. 

Monsters University
5.) Buddy Movie Overload
Again, this is a trait that started with the very first "Toy Story," which was fashioned after mismatched buddy movies in the tradition of "Midnight Run" and "48 Hours." At the time, this seemed downright revolutionary – the original "Toy Story" was released smack dab in the middle of what's commonly referred to as the Disney Renaissance, with big, brassy, Broadway musical-esque animated epics. By comparison, "Toy Story" was small and character-focused. The songs that Disney suggested be in the movie weren't the centerpieces of grand musical numbers, they were quietly played in the background of highly emotional scenes (by the third movie, this too had been abandoned). It's just that this formula often became too formulaic. After "A Bug's Life," which was an attempt at building a kind of "group" dynamic, and the second "Toy Story," there was "Monsters Inc.," a buddy movie between two monsters. Then there was "Finding Nemo," which didn't seem like it was going to be a buddy movie but then turned into one (this time with two fish). "The Incredibles" was a different beast altogether and almost shouldn't be talked about in the grander context of the Pixar oeuvre. "Cars" was a buddy movie about two mismatched cars, one that is interested in the excitement of the race and the other who takes in the quieter moments of life, while "Ratatouille" was a buddy movie about a rat and a chef (you can't get much more mismatched). "WALL-E?" Buddy movie with two robots. "Up," while it has more of a group dynamic if you count Kevin the mythological bird and Dug the talking dog, but it's really a buddy movie between a roly poly Wilderness Explorer and the old man who's been squared off by age. Even "Brave," which promised to break all the rules, ended up being a buddy movie between a princess and her mother, who has been mistakenly turned into a giant bear. At this point it has become very apparent that Pixar knows how to make buddy movies, but at a certain point it goes from being a trademark to being a creative crutch, one that should be taken away from them. From the sounds of it, the next movie, "The Good Dinosaur," will be a sort of buddy movie between a dinosaur and a young boy, but it should be impossible to shove the formula into the one after, "Inside Out," which takes place inside the mind of a young girl. Right?

You could argue that the abundance of sequels is one of the worst things about Pixar, but that is less a trait of the films and more a product of the corporate culture. From what we understand, for every bizarre, high concept oddity that the studio is hell bent on producing, like Lee Unkrich's movie that takes place on the Mexican Day of the Dead, Disney is demanding a sequel, prequel, or spin-off from a preexisting property. So yes, another "Toy Story" is likely, and "Finding Dory" has already been scheduled for 2015. It's a strategy that has served DreamWorks Animation quite well and is probably the pay off for some of the studio's more adventurous upcoming projects. There also seems to be a lack of diversity that is reflected in the ethnicity of most of the characters on screen (although, again, "The Incredibles" featured both African American and Latina characters and the kid in "Up" is vaguely Asian) and the kind of stories Pixar is willing to tell. But look for that to change too, in the coming years, with new animators and experienced vets both wanting to branch out to tell deeper, darker tales. As always, the sky's the limit for Pixar. 

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  • Laura | September 24, 2013 3:28 PMReply

    While I am a Pixar enthusiast, I can say while I did not care for the article personally, I will say that it did give me quite a bit of critical thinking that I will apply for the future.

    Still, bugs me that the author called Brave a buddy film; no, it is a tale between mother and daughter, not a story of two bros getting along the plot.

  • Jim | August 11, 2013 4:42 PMReply

    Whoever wrote this article is a complete moron. And has no clue about good film making and story.

  • Deb | July 3, 2013 10:30 PMReply

    "in which Nemo is reunited with his son and are about to swim back to their little part of the ocean when..."

    Nemo is the son!!!! Marlin is the dad...

  • Craig | June 28, 2013 1:22 PMReply

    Everybody is entitled to an opinion, of course, but the facts on Pixar's founding are factually incorrect. The Lucasfilm Computer Division was never part of ILM, and ended up spinning off DroidWorks as well as Pixar.

    It's true that Mattel didn't want Barbie in the first Toy Story. Back then they wanted her character to remain a tabula rasa for little girls. (They obviously later changed their minds.) There was a cute bit where she was going to screech into Sid's bedroom in her pink Corvette and tell Woody, "Come with me if you want to live." That's not a "strong female character", it's a "Terminator" reference. She wasn't going to have a lot of screen time in any case. In the end it was a blessing that Mattel denied permission, because it would have taken the solution to Woody's problem out of his hands. That's a Deus ex Machina, and very unsatisfying. The ending as produced is much stronger.

    I think the author gets a little desperate to shoe-horn in the idea of everything being a buddy movie. WALL•E was a love story. Calling Merida and Elinor "buddies" is also kind of a stretch. And the director switch on "Brave" was not due to any kind of glass ceiling. I'm not at liberty to say what it was, but that certainly wasn't it.

    The kid in "Up" is "vaguely Asian"? He's modeled after a totally Korean guy, and voiced by an Asian kid. I really don't know how much more Asian the writer wants him to be.

  • Scott | March 7, 2014 5:28 AM

    He may be modelled after a "totally Korean guy", but having seen the movie twice it's never even crossed my mind that he's meant to look or sound Asian. So I can certainly see where the author is coming from, even though "vaguely Asian" isn't a description that I'm sure many American-Asians or those of mixed race would be particularly delighted with.

  • easton | June 26, 2013 2:00 PMReply

    Pixar makes great movies for kids and adults. This article is just trying to nitpick tiny aspects of future children's classics. I guess I can't blame a site called "Indiewire" for creating such hipster bullshit. Article's author should stop the "I don't like it because it's mainstream" stuff, and go back to waxing his moustache and cuffing his jeans.

  • Oliver | June 26, 2013 7:46 AMReply

    My favourite Pixar film is by far 'The Incredibles', which is my way of saying I don't care for most Pixar films.

  • weston | June 24, 2013 3:30 AMReply

    I dislike Pixar because:

    --They love themselves too much. They, (particularly La$$eter,) constantly brag: "oh, we're the best studio in the world, and only we can put out the very best entertainment, blah, blah, blah..." And then they put on stuff like Cars 2. I have no respect for that.

    --Pixar is hypocritical. They first blame Disney Feature Animation for churning out sequels mindlessly, but then they end up doing the same thing.

    --Lack of women/females presence annoys me. They end up dead (UP, mom in Finding nemo) are Suzie homemakers (Toy Story 1, 2, and 3) powerful but man-reliant entities (Bug's Life, Ratatouille) or just plain morons (Finding Nemo.) Elastigirl breaks the mold, however, even though she is a bit on the Suzie homemaker side. Women are highly objectified; in the short Night and Day, a bunch of bikini clad Vegas women are howled at, as if we were still living in the 1940's.

    --Widespread hatred of preteen/teenage girls. Is it just me, but do you get the feeling like Monsters University was made a prequel and not a sequel just so they could avoid showing Boo's 13-year-old self? The teen girls abandoning Jesse in TS2 portrayed girls getting involved in makeup as almost as bad as death. Young girl in Finding Nemo was a brat. Girl in Up grew up and died in the first 10 minutes of the film. I'm going to bet 20 dollars that the girl in Inside Out is going to have mood swings that the masculine emotional entities have to work around.

    --No musicals. In Aladdin, Mulan, Beauty and the Beast, there were songs I could sing to. While Toy Story had some good songs, everything else was just jazzy, instrumental blahhh.


    To the author of this article: I would like to see another article addressing some of these Pixar issues. They are present in all their movies. They annoy me greatly.

  • David | March 24, 2014 12:29 PM

    I use the word "bitch" because that what you're essentially doing. One of your pathetic reason for disliking Pixar is because they "-They love themselves too much"

    That comment makes you sound like a wet blanket. And just because Pixar films aren't the way you want them to be doesn't make it bad. Like your stupid "no musicals" for example.

  • David | August 10, 2013 6:45 PM

    Oh, shut up already.

    Most of your so call poiots aren't even points there just you bitching for the sake of bitching, plus musicals are incredibly lame, I hate it when the characters randomly start singing it annoying, but then again you are annoying person so I guess you would like that crap.

  • Roman | June 21, 2013 11:57 AMReply

    Also, how about a lack of truly memorable antagonists? Yes, nearly each film has a "bad guy" but there haven't been any characters in the Pixar canon (save for maybe Kevin Spacey's imposing Hopper from "A Bug's Life") who really stand shoulder to shoulder with the iconic Disney villains like Malificent, Scar, Jafar, and others.

    Of course, Pixar's villains are much more complex than pure evil, and credit must be given there, but nevertheless, none of their villains are nearly as memorable as what Disney at its best has concocted.

  • Remo | April 29, 2014 12:02 PM

    I disagree, as someone who adores Randall, Hopper, and Lotso as antagonists. But I'm also someone who prefers complex antagonists with shades of gray, and I've always disliked the "pure evil" stance of many Disney Villains, as well as characters like Sauron for instance. That's probably why I do prefer Pixar over Disney animation.

    Hopper is probably the closest to "true evil" Pixar has gone, with the exception that he seemed to love/respect his mom. He oppressed the ants and was cruel to them, while his race used them to their benefit, and he would order people buried alive and watch with a bored expression on his face. Lotso was jealous (of the bear that replaced him and his friends who weren't replaced, denying them access to the girl because of his issues with her) and tyrannical, but had a sad backstory and was still dealing with a lot of heartbreak. He's also great at acting kind and he has some quirky moments. Randall is impatient and snide, but after Monsters University you see that he's desperate to be liked and he's been wronged in his own way, thus wants respect from Waternoose (but instead he ends up being used again just like he kept being used by people in Monsters University), plus his end goal isn't bad in and of itself--he's trying to create a more efficient way of creating energy and thus save their world from collapse.

    Syndrome is another classic villain like Hopper, though that's to be expected given superhero theme of the movie.

    Sid in Toy Story is intimidating in the movie itself since it's from the toys' perspective, but yeah, he isn't that grand in terms of villainy. He's just some loser kid with a sadistic streak...there's probably a lot of kids like that in real life.

    I don't even remember the villains in the Cars movies. Finding Nemo had antagonists in the the humans and Bruce...and I like Bruce personally. Brave's villain didn't have enough screen time imo. He served as a foil for Merida and he seemed like a pretty chill dude when his spirit appeared.

  • Weston | September 22, 2013 7:36 PM

    Hey David, you can at least explain why you hate my opinions instead of, to use your same wording, "bitch" about it. You did make it clear that you hate musicals. You pass it off as some kind of fact. "Musicals are incredibly lame." Oh, is that so? Do you think you are really going to gain any credibility using those kinds of statements? At least I support my argument with examples from movies (for example, the lack of female presence in Pixar films are listed one by one.)

    And by the way, I am not a grammar expert, but the word points is not spelled like this> "poiots."

  • jd | June 20, 2013 2:32 PMReply

    Pixar makes movies not for kids, but for parents looking for wholesome products for their kids. Mystery and "disturbing" content, which children love, and which animates traditional fairy tales, are nowhere to be found.

    The fact that young kids will eagerly consume these denatured market-measured fantasies is not proof of their excellence or even their market acumen, any more than the popularity McDonalds with kids proves it's great food. Despite the producers' best efforts, the Pixar movies retain an element of mystery, because of limited child comprehension and visual aesthetics which appeal to kids. But kids don't see the same movie adults do. Even the most literal plodding storytelling is mysterious for 6-year old.

  • elliot | June 20, 2013 11:31 AMReply

    so basically because pixar has a formula which is common in some of their movies (for every point you made, you had quite a few exceptions), it's bad filmmaking? These movies still make you laugh and cry and excite you. Yes, there are a few bad ones, but there's nothing wrong with finding a formula that works to get audiences excited, and sell tickets and merchandise (it is still the evil disney afterall)

  • artbizzy | June 20, 2013 11:11 AMReply

    Okay maybe I am in the minority here but the worse things to me about Pixar is their artwork. I find the Pixar characters to look like the siblings of a cabbage pad kid and a garbage pail kid. I don't want animated movies to look like two hour ads for toys 'r' us. Weak female characters or not I'll take classic Disney or Studio Ghibli's beautifully drawn and animated movies over Pixar's plastic, dopey, googly-eyed looking computer animations any day.

  • DMJ | June 20, 2013 10:54 AMReply

    Thank you for the article. Good to know I'm not the only one who isn't impressed at everything Pixar throws out.

  • Nick | June 20, 2013 9:09 AMReply

    Thank you Danny. Totally agree.

  • Matthew | June 20, 2013 7:06 AMReply

    Also, blaming Pixar for things out of their control (such as commercial marketing) is unfair - that is a problem with Disney's marketing wing surely? This is a big problem in the article, especially when you call John Carter an 'unofficial' Pixar film. Is Mission Impossible 4 also a Pixar film because Brad Bird directed it? Pixar artists may have contributed, but the film itself is down to its director and screenwriters. The big problem with the film was the poor use of flashbacks, which on DVD features is revealed to be something Stanton wanted to use in Nemo but Pixar stopped him. So if anything, it shows how the working atmosphere in Pixar is better than outside it.

  • Matthew | June 20, 2013 7:00 AMReply

    A terrible article that misses so many of the great things in the films. You talk about the 'double' endings for Finding Nemo, but it is simply an end to the plot and then a conclusion for the characters. So yes, they find Nemo. But then we have a scene which underlines the character growth of each character. Same with Wall E - they save humanity, but then it goes back to what the film is really about: the relationship between Wall E and Eve and how compromising their 'objectives' for each other has bought them together. Other than Toy Story and Monsters Inc, I think its really unfair to call every film a buddy movie - pretty much all movies involve relationships with some key characters so could be boiled down to this if your being reductionist (which this article is throughout). As for female characters, there is a point in saying there are few strong LEADING female characters, but many of their films include female characters who play key nuanced roles (Dory being one which you unfairly dismiss precisely BECAUSE she carries much of the plot).

    The fair points you make need more clarification, but are more worthy of discussion. For example, Pixar do seem less willing to have a film with a less perfected feel like Lilo and Stich (although that film itself has several problems), and this often results in over-reliance on action - which in the contexts of most stories only really translates realistically into chase sequences. Still, I think this shows how they are willing to raise the stakes in their films and that again it is unfair to define any 'race against time' scenario as a chase sequence.

  • jake | June 24, 2013 3:14 AM

    A terrible article, is it? The author bravely speaks against the studio which America has taken for granted as being two steps below God. The author gives reasons which I think are valid. If you don't agree, that is fine. But personally, I think there needs to be more articles like this. I too don't think Pixar is God, and the problems mentioned are actually real. I am sick of Pixar's over reliance on action chase scenes, buddy movies, the dissing of the female gender, and many other points.

  • jake | June 24, 2013 3:13 AM

    A terrible article, is it? The author bravely speaks against the studio which America has taken for granted as being two steps below God. The author gives reasons which I think are valid. If you don't agree, that is fine. But personally, I think there needs to be more articles like this. I too don't think Pixar is God, and the problems mentioned are actually real. I am sick of Pixar's over reliance on action chase scenes, buddy movies, the dissing of the female gender, and many other points.

  • jake | June 24, 2013 3:13 AM

    A terrible article, is it? The author bravely speaks against the studio which America has taken for granted as being two steps below God. The author gives reasons which I think are valid. If you don't agree, that is fine. But personally, I think there needs to be more articles like this. I too don't think Pixar is God, and the problems mentioned are actually real. I am sick of Pixar's over reliance on action chase scenes, buddy movies, the dissing of the female gender, and many other points.

  • jake | June 24, 2013 3:13 AM

    A terrible article, is it? The author bravely speaks against the studio which America has taken for granted as being two steps below God. The author gives reasons which I think are valid. If you don't agree, that is fine. But personally, I think there needs to be more articles like this. I too don't think Pixar is God, and the problems mentioned are actually real. I am sick of Pixar's over reliance on action chase scenes, buddy movies, the dissing of the female gender, and many other points.

  • jake | June 24, 2013 3:12 AM

    A terrible article, is it? The author bravely speaks against the studio which America has taken for granted as being two steps below God. The author gives reasons which I think are valid. If you don't agree, that is fine. But personally, I think there needs to be more articles like this. I too don't think Pixar is God, and the problems mentioned are actually real. I am sick of Pixar's over reliance on action chase scenes, buddy movies, the dissing of the female gender, and many other points.

  • jake | June 24, 2013 3:12 AM

    A terrible article, is it? The author bravely speaks against the studio which America has taken for granted as being two steps below God. The author gives reasons which I think are valid. If you don't agree, that is fine. But personally, I think there needs to be more articles like this. I too don't think Pixar is God, and the problems mentioned are actually real. I am sick of Pixar's over reliance on action chase scenes, buddy movies, the dissing of the female gender, and many other points.

  • jake | June 24, 2013 3:11 AM

    A terrible article, is it? The author bravely speaks against the studio which America has taken for granted as being two steps below God. The author gives reasons which I think are valid. If you don't agree, that is fine. But personally, I think there needs to be more articles like this. I too don't think Pixar is God, and the problems mentioned are actually real. I am sick of Pixar's over reliance on action chase scenes, buddy movies, the dissing of the female gender, and many other points.

  • Cory | June 19, 2013 7:27 PMReply

    These are movies for children. I think this article is a bit silly. Why would children's movies need more complicated plots and such. Besides, its seems that this awful, formulaic approach is really cleaning up at the box office.

  • frank | June 19, 2013 5:44 PMReply

    This is the problem with "educated" "critics": they think they "know" things.

  • Alan B | June 22, 2013 5:38 AM

    Also, wait: did you just call Nick a "f*g"? You're using a fucking HOMOPHOBIC SLUR to chastise someone who's sexist? Urgh ...

  • Alan B | June 22, 2013 5:32 AM

    Drinking again, Gabe? Surprise, surprise ... I agree that Nick is a misogynist asshole and he deserves to be chastised, but Frank doesn't seem sexist: if you can't deal with a little sarcasm, then that's YOU PROBLEM. I know this might be a little much to ask of someone who posts alcohol-fueled rants on Hollywood-Elsewhere, but maybe you just might want to show a little dignity.

  • Gabe Toro | June 22, 2013 5:09 AM

    Go fuck yourself.

  • M.M. | June 19, 2013 3:10 PMReply

    The Pixar issues with women is long standing. When Toy Story 2 came out in 1999, they did not have a Jessie doll for that Christmas season. They had a new Buzz Lightyear. They had a Woody doll dressed as Santa Claus. No Jessie on the shelves.

  • LR | June 19, 2013 6:26 PM

    how is that Pixar's fault?

  • Tyler | June 19, 2013 9:54 AMReply

    "Snow Whit and the Seven Dwarfs"

    Whit?

    If you don't care about your writing, why should we?

  • a guy named joe | June 19, 2013 9:47 AMReply

    Wow, those are a lot of forced points. I would argue that most of your "worst" things about Pixar are actually strengths (except of course the lack of strong female characters. Brave and the Chapman story broke my heart). Most of your points are easily refuted, and as mentioned, are forced. For instance, your definition of "buddy" movies is really, really, really broad. If "Wall-E" is a buddy movie with robots, then "When Harry Met Sally" is also a buddy movie (in which the male and female protagonists end up having sex).

  • Milla | June 19, 2013 6:06 AMReply

    Sorry but what a piece of s***!

  • Nick | June 19, 2013 1:33 AMReply

    This article has clearly been written by a woman. Much of it simply doesn't hold water.

  • Nick's smarter sister | June 24, 2013 3:38 AM

    Nick? You are sexist. Are you implying that women's reasoning capabilities and cognition are inferior to man's? If you do think that, than I understand exactly why you would disagree with this article.

    And your stupidity proves that men are not all-knowing.

  • Gabe toro | June 22, 2013 5:10 AM

    You too f*g , go fuck yourself. That woman has more class than you think. she might be opinionated as shit, but she has a right to vote.

  • Glass | June 19, 2013 1:38 AM

    That's some sexist stuff, dude. Did you just read the first point? (I wouldn't blame you if you did)

  • Nic Kramer | June 18, 2013 9:43 PMReply

    Just what I needed, more Pixar hate.

    I'm starting to see why they called the '20's-50's the Golden Age of Film: There were no bigot Internet biggots bloggers like you.

  • Sam | June 18, 2013 8:36 PMReply

    Wow, posting an anti Pixar article on a site full of Pixar fan boys? You are a braver man than me. Be sure to lock your doors and windows tonight.


    (all jokes aside, this is a great article, really)

  • Rich Corle | June 18, 2013 8:28 PMReply

    The #1 problem with Pixar? They're not Studio Ghibli.

  • Jayhosh | June 19, 2013 9:41 PM

    Ha! Hats off to you bro, that just made my day. In all seriousness, you are right. Even Lasseter acknowledges their brilliance. They pretty much steer clear of any of the common tropes found in these films. They always have great female leads too.

  • hank | June 18, 2013 7:45 PMReply

    it's as good a day as any to find something to bitch about.

  • Grant P | June 18, 2013 7:09 PMReply

    I completely agree with Danny below. It is especially obvious that #2 on this list is a stretch and insult to the studio. No room for texture? Give me a break. That is like saying 'Its bad to write great stories with themes that connect... I don't know how, but I'll find a way to talk about what could possibly lack from it!'

  • Glass | June 19, 2013 1:35 AM

    Absolutely right. Re-watch WALL-E and tell us that perfect motherfucker lacks texture.

  • Lily | June 18, 2013 5:35 PMReply

    Jesse from Toy Story is a great female character. She has an interesting backstory and is not defined by anyone else. Also, Barbie from Toy Story 3? She was pretty awesome.

  • LR | June 19, 2013 6:30 PM

    Jessie is a great character. Also, Dory. Also, Elastigirl. Also, Violet. Also, Edna Mode. Also Collette. Also, Eve. But yeah, apart from that, none.

  • Manni | June 18, 2013 5:28 PMReply

    Good article. I liked authors points at #2, but I'm seriously shocked about Lasseter firing Chris Sanders and hating "Lilo & Stitch" - that was dissapointing to read...

    And I don't find this article anti-Pixar, it's just the dose of criticism that even the best needs, in a way it proves how complex and debatable their works are. And it's better then your usual "hey it's new Pixar, it's gonna be great!" article.

  • Ted | June 18, 2013 4:46 PMReply

    I don't have much to say about the article, other than to address point #5 slightly.

    It's really a stretch to call Brave a buddy film. Yes, a relationship is strengthened between two people, but if that is your definition of a buddy film, then a lot of movies are buddy movies. Same goes for UP which seems like more of an father-son dynamic than a buddy dynamic. I'll admit it starts as a buddy film between a grouchy old man and a spry kid, but it quickly becomes a father-son dynamic.

    I also have to wonder, would you launch the buddy film critique against Howard Hawks? Aren't most Hawks' best films like Only Angels Have Wings, The Big Sky, Gentlemen Prefer Blonds, and Rio Bravo all buddy films? Most of his other films even carry a buddy film sensibility without being buddy films. Even in His Girl Friday and Bringing Up Baby, the romantic interactions for much of the film are constructed as buddy-like interactions. Was Howard Hawks just a hack repeating the same formulas over and over again? If you want to critique Pixar for reproducing the same themes, you need to be more explicit about your objections - what exactly about returning to the same theme don't you like? Because saying that they are just rehashing the same theme seems like a weak objection.

  • Sebastian | June 18, 2013 4:35 PMReply

    I'm sorry. But i justed wasted time reading an article i thought was going to be constructive and good. Instead i found myself reading an article that makes me wonder if the author just picked out small details, enlarged them to a ridiculous exaggeration and started mentioning "wrong things" just to complete this so called list.

    I really agree with "Danny" here. The examples used in this article don't even make sense. On the contrary, the examples show positive things Pixar do. Like the mentioned Tuna-scene in Finding Nemo. What makes Pixar the absolut best at what they do are the subtle and not overexaggerated messages that get through if you read between the lines. It's strange just comparing Lilo & Stith to Pixar movies. While Pixar movies connect with people of all ages(trust me, i've seen grown men cry to Pixar movies), Lilo & Stith and most of Dreamworks animated films(Except How to Train Your Dragon) are a lot more interesting to kids. The really obvious and exaggerated messages and character-storys might work for you, but not for me. There's no challenge in watching a movie where everything is explained, where there's nothing for you to fill in using your imagination.

  • starway2001 | June 18, 2013 4:04 PMReply

    Another Pixar movie must be coming out. Time for another Pixar hit piece. Pixar-hate is certainly fashionable these days.

  • Luke | June 18, 2013 4:02 PMReply

    Agree with both Danny and Rudy.

  • Rudy | June 18, 2013 3:56 PMReply

    I could care less about the female empowerment crap! Disney inundated us with Disney Princesses for 20 years! So much so that they now have their own brand! So what's wrong with doing movies that don't feature some spunky heroine looking for independence or dating monsters?? There are other stories out there that can be told! And Pixar has done them very well!

  • DarylT | July 1, 2013 7:14 AM

    All Disney Princess movies are excellent and are great role models in consideration, kindness, patience and understanding. There is nothing wrong with wanting love and finding that person to love.

  • Amy | June 18, 2013 7:53 PM

    With the possible exception of Mulan, none of Disney's princess movies are feminist or empowering in the least (in fact, most of them are just the opposite). Pixar doesn't have to make movies about "some spunky heroine looking for independence or dating monsters", as you put it, but it's disappointing that a studio often praised for its imagination took so long to do a movie with a female protagonist. And even then, I'd argue that Brave was essentially just another Disney princess movie minus the love interest. It's totally possible for a movie to have prominent, well-written female characters and still be interesting.

  • Danny | June 18, 2013 3:46 PMReply

    This article really shows the snobbiness of some of the writers at Indiewire.
    Monsters University is a a sequel to a movie starring two male characters, of course the leads are going to be two male characters. A Bug's Life, Brave, The Incredibles, Wall-E, and Finding Nemo all have main-female characters or female leads, and, in my opinion, they are all strong females. The removal of Bo-Peep didn't start any trend of marginalizing female characters. Bo-Peep wasn't a very interesting character to begin with and she wasn't too useful. It sounds to me like you are looking for a parallel between the marginalization of women in society and the marginalization of women in Pixar, but the problem is Pixar doesn't marginalize women.
    I have no clue what you are saying when you say every movie ends in a chase sequence because that simply isn't true. I think you are mixing a chase sequence up with an acceleration in the action.
    I think it is ridiculous to complain about an emphasis on story. An emphasis on story is the reason why Pixar is the best at what it does. The texture is seen in the stark differences between the characters. It looks to me like you want extraneous detail for the sake of extraneous detail which would only distract viewers.
    The problem you state about multiple climaxes isn't really a problem at all. The action that follows a could-be ending in Pixar movies always contributes to the movies overall message and plot. That can be seen especially in Finding Nemo in the scene with Nemo saving the tuna. That scene shows that both Nemo and Marlin have grown and there is a newfound trust between them.
    Pixar makes animated movies that are made for children with stories suitable for all ages. In children's movies one theme has to be either family or be friendship. I haven't seen a children's movie that doesn't feature friends or family because those are two of the few things children can relate to. The Incredibles and Brave feature family while most of the rest feature friends.

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