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Watch: Slavoj Žižek Talks 'The Dark Knight' Plus Christopher Nolan Chats With Richard Donner

by Kevin Jagernauth
October 3, 2013 3:45 PM
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Christopher Nolan, The Dark Knight,

Even though a new iteration of Batman is on the way with Ben Affleck suiting up for the "Man Of Steel" sequel, Christopher Nolan's trilogy is still held as the peerless adaptation bringing both sizzle and substance to the big screen with his "The Dark Knight" trilogy. And as such, folks continue to dissect his films.

And among those folks is pop philosopher Slavoj Žižek, who in this clip from the forthcoming "The Pervert’s Guide to Ideology," takes a look at the politics of "The Dark Knight." In particular he points attention to what he believes is the rather conservative message that order can only be maintained in society by perpetuating lies onto the public in the name of the common good. Anyway, while you turn that over in your head, there's also a quick clip from a longer 25-minute conversation between Nolan and Richard Donner, in which they discuss the virtues of cutting to music (or not— Nolan doesn't use temp tracks).

The full talk between those directors can be found on "The Dark Knight Trilogy: Ultimate Collector's Edition" which is in stores now. "The Pervert’s Guide to Ideology" opens on November 1st and you check out the poster and trailer for that right here. [Biblioklept/Movieclips]

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  • jervaise brooke hamster | October 4, 2013 11:13 AMReply

    Nolan is rubbish simply because he is British ! ! !.

  • Northern Star | October 3, 2013 11:12 PMReply

    Zizek is a truly repulsive subhuman slug of a person who you should NEVER take seriously on anything... this is a guy who defended the murder of 30, 000 people during the French Reign of Terror as an exercise in democracy, he's a total sleazebag!

    At least Chris Nolan got the chance to finish his Dark Knight story, poor Dick Donner never got the chance to finish his Superman story after being fired from 'Superman II'... much to the detriment of the final film that was eventually released!

  • Pepsi or Coke? Neither fuccckas | October 3, 2013 10:24 PMReply

    Not a fan of either the Dark Knight nor Zizek. Zizek is just posturing throwing out theories while Nolan is all technique no substance.

  • cokekane | October 4, 2013 7:03 AM

    not a fan of either but just another troll - hey dickshit , ur all gas no shit !

  • Glass | October 3, 2013 6:00 PMReply

    Yeah I always saw TDK as a pretty conservative 'War On Terror' allegory. It gets a little heavy-handed at the end with it (the cell phone trackers), but still a great movie.

  • CB | October 3, 2013 5:03 PMReply

    Nolan knows his Eisenstein montage theory!

  • Katie Walsh | October 3, 2013 4:29 PMReply

    Nolan's Batman films are insanely conservative. TDKR is even worse.

  • Wash | October 4, 2013 12:50 PM

    Buddy, unfortunately, your Batman logic is kinda wonky. "His allies are the police and the military"? Except for one cop as the exception (Gordon) every cop is out hunting Batman... in fact, there is at least one scene in every movie of the Nolan Trilogy showing Batman being hunted by the police. The military interfere with his plans as well, by keeping the city at bay, because of the threats of Bane. Swing and a miss, Buddy.

  • buddy | October 3, 2013 10:34 PM

    Some examples? The hero is a member of the 1%- in fact, that is his only superpower. He represents the fascist ideal of the Ubermensch, the one who rises above the many by sheer effort of will. He has at his disposal the most advanced weapons and surveillance systems. His allies are the police and the military. His enemies are the great unwashed, people driven to crime by poverty. In TDKR parallels between the Occupy movement and Bane's minions are unambiguously drawn. Only the Ubermensch is able to rally the almost defeated forces of the status quo to restore order to society. How's that?

  • Boy | October 3, 2013 5:05 PM

    No. There's a huge difference between agitating political messages and exploring political issues by raising questions rather than answering them.

  • No | October 3, 2013 5:03 PM

    It would help if you give some examples of "insanely conservative." If what this philosopher says is true -- based on what others have said before re "noble lies"-- how insanely conservative are these films? I always find it distressing that people have to rely on pop culture --Batman!-- to discern how insanely conservative reality, in this case American politics, really is. Give some examples.

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