Women and Hollywood: So, congratulations. It’s a huge accomplishment I saw the movie last night, it was great.
Melissa Rosenberg: Oh, I’m glad you liked it.
WaH: So can you talk a little about how you got the first writing job on Twilight and what made you stand out to get that initial gig?
MR: Well I had worked with Summit (the studio that produced Twilight) on Step Up, my first movie. And it was such a great creative relationship that when they got the rights to Twilight they called me and offered it to me. It was just tremendously good fortune.
WaH: Were you disappointed that Catherine Hardwick did not come back to direct the second film?
MR: You know, I actually really liked the way that it rotated directors. Because the cast were constant, I was a constant, the producers were constant. It was nice to bring in a new perspective for each film. So I thought that was actually really smart.
WaH: The fact that you’re a constant is not typical in terms of franchises. Why do you think that it worked out that way?
MR: It came down to really an unusually good mix of creative elements and we had great collaboration between myself and the producers and the studio. We all just worked the same way we had the same vision of the books. And we clicked. It’s a rare thing, you know, to find those relationships. But we just clicked and kept going.
WaH: Do you feel that Twilight has changed Hollywood and how it thinks about girls and women?
MR: I hope it has. I think the prevailing wisdom prior to Twilight was that you would have tent-pole movies all for 13 year old boys. And they were driving box office. I actually had producers in the past tell me, you can’t do any kind of action movie or open a big tent pole movie with a woman because there are no women who open movies, except for maybe Angelina Jolie. I was appalled by that comment. So what Twilight does is show how women/girls can drive box office and they can support a tent pole movie. They’re an extremely passionate fan base. This coincided with the 13 year old boys starting to stay home and play video games and work on their home media stuff. They’re no longer going to theaters in droves. It’s a sort of interesting confluence of events that all came together with women becoming an active audience.
WaH: It’s also a lot easier for them too, to appeal to a 13 year old boy than it is to appeal to a 40 year old woman. We’re a little bit different.
MR: I think we’ve been a mystery to studios in some ways and now we’ll see if that changes. So now I think, “Oh well I’m a female screenwriter who wrote some tent pole movies, maybe now they’re gonna trust those movies to other women.” I would hope that is true and that's part of why I spend time mentoring women -- I’m hoping that changes. But if we must fight for it, no one’s handing it to us. No one’s handing out anything.
WaH: How does that dovetail with the work that you want to do with the League of Hollywood Women Writers?
MR: I was a group member. It was right after the (writers) strike that a bunch of us came together and realized that throughout the strike that women were actually getting things done, and making things happen and we really experienced ourselves being politically affected. So we said we could take this nationally, to the national political stage. And we started raising money for candidates with our pro-writer agenda and we were quite successful at it.
WaH: What's going on with the group now? Are you still doing stuff?
MR: It’s kind of dormant right now.
WaH: You’ve also worked with the Writer’s Guild Diversity Committee. What are some of the issues that you’ve focused on in your work with the diversity committee?
MR: Iit’s all about relationships, it’s all about introducing everyone, to one another. That’s really what it is in Hollywood. But it’s also about craft, and honing craft, so for me it’s encouraging that process. What the guild does I think does effectively is put people together. Give people access. And they’ve also been very effective in working with studios and networks to encourage diversity, like for instance I know here at ABC (the network of Red Widow) Paul Lee who runs the company, and everybody at ABC is really stridently promoting a diverse agenda.
WaH: I think ABC has kind of figured out that women watch TV.
MR: ABC has figured that out, yes.
WaH: Like, some days I watch CBS and I’m like do you know that women actually watch television?
MR: Yeah, I mean CBS is doing alright, but I think the major percentage of our ABC audience is women. We’re driving television audiences, we’re all over it.
WaH: I have this quote that you said “What I want for Tall Girls (her production company) is to be creating great strong roles for women but in 4-quadrant, high-concept movies, not movies for women in the traditional sense, but more interesting, intriguing, complex roles and kick ass women.” So talk a little bit more about this mandate for the production company, because now you can really take your success out for a ride here.
MR: And I’m milking it for all it’s worth. I think women writers and actors for that matter have been sort of ghettoized into this rom-com or romantic drama storytelling. And so Nicholas Sparks is a place where you might find women, but you know, forget Iron Man. And that’s something that I hope to bridge— or at least that’s my goal for the company is to really bring women behind the camera and in front of the camera into much more high-concept films. I want the female Iron Man, the female Tony Soprano.
The roles for women have been either you’re the mother or you’re the whore or the lieutenant. They’ve been sort of limited, either way you’re all good or you’re all bad. What I’m loving about Red Widow is the ability to really do move toward the Tony Soprano or Walter White or Dexter, these character who are just complex, flawed. My character perhaps has more of a moral center than those characters, but still, you know, makes mistakes.
Ozon sounds like a typically smug, French cretin.
KInd of a contrast to the Lake Bell statements.
Sorry i missed you Melissa. Have another one soon!
1. Actually, it is REALLY important to think about the impact the stories we tell have on feminism,
It is ill advised to make judgments about a film based on whether it is good or bad for feminism (or
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Rebeca - Siren | December 17, 2012 1:07 AM
It was the book fans that carried the movies. My love for those books drove me to watch the movies. The last ones were the best, I suspect its becuase Stephenie herself got on board. My opinion of course.
thanks
Rebeca
www.sirens-london.com
Ali | November 29, 2012 12:03 PM
Well done Melissa! You are very inspiring to me as a writer. Thanks for not giving up and always giving back to ensure future generations have the opportunity to write.
Eli | November 28, 2012 4:14 AM
It seems [from interview] Melissa Rosenberg still does not get the Twilight story.
As for Kristens defending, well, it was her own choice to put her life on fire. Think she said it herself - she wants to do something crazy, what would make people speak about her. So she got what she wanted!
Amy | November 25, 2012 11:02 PM
@Tyson, where's your sympathy for Liberty Ross. She is going through something that many people go through during the course of their marriage. She's trying to deal with it with as much dignity as possible. However, there are some who won't let her do that. You're ABSOLUTELY RIGHT. We don't know how "sordid" the "affair" was. In fact, we don't even know if there was an actual affair. So, why assume the worse? You are making up a story that suits your opinion of Kristen Stewart, which if fine. You can do whatever you want to do. However, a 22-year-old that can drink, smoke, vote, and go to war is still a kid, especially compared to a 41-year-old man. I happen to have sympathy and empathy for everyone involved. The bottom line is, Kristen made a mistake. Everybody's trying to move on. Build a bridge and get over it. I don't give a flying fig about Brad Pitt's personal life, either. Why you do, or why you think it's normal to is beyond my understanding? But, I can't judge your source of entertainment. I just don't understand how someone could be so entertained by gossip and somehow feel superior to the person that the gossip is written about, as though the fact that you're privy to their errors (if the gossip is even true, which it rarely is) makes you sin-free.
Amy | November 25, 2012 9:03 PM
Great article. Very interesting information about Melissa that I didn't know, i.e., she's producing a new show. Congratulations! That must be exciting.
I agree wholeheartedly that if the situation were reversed between Robert and Kristen the backlash wouldn't have been as bad. The only time that I thought twenty-two wasn't a kid was when I was that age. She is very young. She made a mistake. It can't be undone. Everybody is trying to move on, except those who already hated her to begin with.
Most other people don't even care about this, if they know who either one of them are at all.
Charlize | November 25, 2012 5:26 PM
Melissa Rosenberg is a talentless hack who took the few admirable parts of Twilight and twisted them so that Bella was some sort of feminist who was meant to be a vampire instead of her being a girl in love with a vampire. She continually marginalized Edward's role in the films, and built up Jacob instead.
Now she drags Rob's private hell into her interview and defends a homewrecking cheater. Kristen Stewart has been in the film business since she was 12, she's not a baby. A 22 year old woman cannot use the excuse that is was just a mistake. She made a choice to deliberately cheat with a married man, who's wife she knew. Liberty had been kind to Kristen, and this was how she repaid her. Stewart is a selfish, ungrateful brat, regardless of her age, and Melissa seems to share the same maturity level. If she had any class she would keep her mouth shut about other people's private lives. But she doesn't have any class, to go along with her lack of talent. Summit kept her cause she worked cheap.
Ping | November 25, 2012 12:08 PM
Four points. One: Robert and Kristen have moved past it. So should everyone else. Two: Kristen got hit WAY the hell too hard for this. Three: Stop rationalizing. Rob has been taking fire from Kristen fans and assorted pundits for not standing by her from day one, and he's taking just as much fire now from the lunatic fringe of his own fanbase for taking her back. It sounds to me like they both have some worshipers they can do without. Also, regarding the hypothetical reaction if Rob had been the one cheating, we'll never now, and it's a cheap shot at his knees to go there. He didn't cheat. Four: Kirsten was/is hardly a blushing virgin who just fell off the turnip truck, ignorant to the ways of sexually aggressive and manipulative men in positions of authority. She's an adult and an industry veteran who knows how things work in Tinsel Town. She made a horrendous mistake, made all the more ugly by public exposure, that could have cost her everything that mattered to her. She's owned up to it and done her penance (and then some), and apparently that's good enough for Robert; and I'd wager his information on what happened is better than ours is. So let's stop analyzing, debating, and trying to give her status as a victim here that she probably doesn't want to begin with.
Sandi | November 25, 2012 11:51 AM
I disagree that this had to do with being unfairly treated because of her gender. I don't believe the cheating was what people were hung up on, it was who she cheated with. Had it been with Garrett Hedlund, for instance, or at least someone single then the outrage would have been far less. He was married and had two small children and she was due to make another film with him. I don't think our society is so backwards that she would have been judged for sowing her oats at her age, but to involve herself in a marriage is inexcusable. I don't know any man who has cheated on his wife and kids with a woman half his age that has been patted on the back for it. She got railed because she is more famous, not because of her gender. She is not a kid, she is an adult and has been in Hollywood a long time. It's pretty well known that she doesn't do anything she doesn't want to do and all of her colleagues have spent years lauding how mature she is for her age. Suddenly, she's a kid. I guess you will next say she didn't know he was married. If this is about women standing together, then where does Liberty Ross fit into this? Because last I checked, she was being maligned by an entire fandom when she did nothing wrong. I see a lot of excuses being made and not a lot of accountability. Making a public statement when you've been busted doesn't really count as accountability to me. But it's Hollywood, hypocrite central. If you want women to stand together to support other women, that's fine. But standing in solidarity with a woman who betrayed the sisterhood by messing with another woman's husband reeks false. This all seems very self-serving to me, in service of a woman who is ducking blame for her actions by claiming to be everything she always preached she wasn't. Her public persona isn't very likable and this only makes her look worse. Rupert Sanders is a nobody, that is why he is seemingly skating. There is no outlet for people to rail on him. For all of the integrity that she preaches, she sure scraped the bottom of the barrel for her "indiscretion". Sorry, but I can't be all rah rah for the sisterhood on this.
Ciro | November 25, 2012 7:49 AM
Melissa Rosenberg you're just as mediocre as writer and person, go to hell ... What about Liberty and their children?
moronfeminist | November 25, 2012 4:37 AM
You are the feminisnist who made a DOUBLE STANDARD!! So because Kristen stewart is a kid a girl, cheating so publicly is allowed. Cheating is cheating, no matter you're man pr woman. Especially with 50 pics as prove dont as people will forget it easly.
Iam sick about femimist always talking about double standard but always aksing permision for mistake they did because they are women.
Dont ask about DOUBLE STANDART then
willy | November 25, 2012 4:34 AM
i am betting that Melissa Silverstein is already writing her second "defend the homewrecker,blame the innocents" article for Kristen Stewart's next cynical cheating scandal because once a cheater,always a cheater
lorraine | November 24, 2012 11:11 PM
Omg, another defender/enabler/apologist for a homewrecking cheater. However you twist it, Stewart is NOT a kid. She knowingly and shamelessly with all kinds of deceit and lies, cheated with a married man and almost destroyed a young family. It was premeditated, planned for weeks maybe even months. This writer and scriptwriter might be forgetting that there are famous male cheaters who did not escape their deceitful acts..remember Tiger Woods? John Edwards? Those men were not considered just bad boys. their careers took a nose dive and their image were not that rosy anymore. A cheater will always be remembered as a cheater, it will forever be a footnote in their name so however you defend a cheater, the public will always remember their shameful acts. No amoung of PR driven articles, appearances can erase that. The public will always remember especially in Stewart's case since all her ass grinding pictures are all over the internet.
Ketchup | November 24, 2012 7:00 PM
Not even talking about how inappropriate it is for the screenwriter of Twilight to trivialize what personally happened to their relationship as a feminist talking point, but how in the hell does she know that Pattinson would be seen as "bad boy", and a "sexy guy"? Has she seen some posts written by Stewart fans? Even though there was no evidence that he did anything wrong in this scenario, he was skewered by her fans besides all over the internet. Also, all the Hollywood media support towards Stewart as opposed to Pattinson last Summer. I could just imagine if it were him who had cheated. He would have been physically run out of Hollywood on a rail.
Marian | November 20, 2012 6:41 PM
Ace interview! Thank you!